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RE: Drew Williamson
(03-24-2023 05:44 PM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 05:35 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:23 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  I lived through the Capel hate bc he lived in my neighborhood and Jason went to
My high school

For Taylor- lol. You should have been on the boards. Especially our old friends like Razor.
People hates his style and thought he couldnt win big games

I lived through the Capel years as a fan, but didn't know him personally. Met him tons of times and I thought he was an awesome guy. No idea, what could have happened in the neighborhood but I hope it wasnt anything awful. Im speaking strictly as one observing the fan base over the years. I know quite a few long time fans, and while its just my experience, none felt any ill will toward Capel. But yes, the program had started to trend downward and most agreed it was time for something new. Which is ironic now, since Jeff has done much worse than JC and is still here.

I was on the boards during the end of the BT reign, and Im familiar with Razor's antics. But you know he is not representative of the majority of the fan base. His (and a few others) whole schtick is to get people agitated and riled up. Again, just my experience, but I saw many people who recognized Blaine needed to be fired at the end. He really did. But they also knew he had a problem and wanted him to get it taken care of. There was some anger that he had crashed our ship on the rocks in the process, but very little ill will toward him personally.

I wouldn't deny Drew a chance to coach at his alma mater just because if it didn't work out people might not think of him as highly. The dude is one of the best point guards in ODU history. He's my favorite one ever. Nothing he does as a coach will ever change that. I would hope most people would feel that way. Same with Mike Jones. I remember standing on the tournament floor when he was on the ladder cutting down the nets. Theres an iconic photo of him up there. Thats how Ill always remember Mike Jones, whether he's ever our coach or not too.

You can say Jones did worse than Capel but Jones has not had 3 losing seasons in 4 years like Capel. Capel never went dancing with only his own players. Jones did.

The 97 New Mexico NCAA tournament game was with his players - Poag, Cal, Bassett, Dunlap, EJ, Youngblood, Byers. We were in Pittsburgh and almost won that one.

EJ and Odell were Purnell guys
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RE: Drew Williamson
(03-24-2023 05:23 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:23 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  I lived through the Capel hate bc he lived in my neighborhood and Jason went to
My high school

For Taylor- lol. You should have been on the boards. Especially our old friends like Razor.
People hates his style and thought he couldnt win big games

I lived through the Capel years as a fan, but didn't know him personally. Met him tons of times and I thought he was an awesome guy. No idea, what could have happened in the neighborhood but I hope it wasnt anything awful. Im speaking strictly as one observing the fan base over the years. I know quite a few long time fans, and while its just my experience, none felt any ill will toward Capel. But yes, the program had started to trend downward and most agreed it was time for something new. Which is ironic now, since Jeff has done much worse than JC and is still here.

I was on the boards during the end of the BT reign, and Im familiar with Razor's antics. But you know he is not representative of the majority of the fan base. His (and a few others) whole schtick is to get people agitated and riled up. Again, just my experience, but I saw many people who recognized Blaine needed to be fired at the end. He really did. But they also knew he had a problem and wanted him to get it taken care of. There was some anger that he had crashed our ship on the rocks in the process, but very little ill will toward him personally.

I wouldn't deny Drew a chance to coach at his alma mater just because if it didn't work out people might not think of him as highly. The dude is one of the best point guards in ODU history. He's my favorite one ever. Nothing he does as a coach will ever change that. I would hope most people would feel that way. Same with Mike Jones. I remember standing on the tournament floor when he was on the ladder cutting down the nets. Theres an iconic photo of him up there. Thats how Ill always remember Mike Jones, whether he's ever our coach or not too.

Well stated monarx. Hate is a pretty strong word and I have not heard that word used about Capel for sure. I was around the program a lot in those days, played golf with him some and always loved him. I agree he needed to go at the end but I’ll always appreciate the good years he had with us and the players he brought in to the program. I posted a podcast featuring Odell Hodge on the site not long ago and on the podcast he mentioned he did not transfer to Wake Forest because Capel was hired. That tells me a lot about Capel and the love the players had for him.
As for Taylor, I was really upset with where he left the program but I never hated him, I don’t think many people did. Be that as it may you make some good points about giving a guy like Williamson a chance and I hope one day we get an opportunity to offer him or someone like him. It makes perfect sense to me to hire a previous Monarch because they know this program has a higher gear, I am not convinced Jones even believes it does. Purnell is the only former Monarch we have hired in the bb ( I think) program and he did well. It’s worth a try.

I agree with all this. At first he did good, but At the end Capel had to go, he quit recruiting because he thought he had the FSU job. He disparaged ODU at the end thinking he was too good and with the bad teams he just had to go. He slipped up when we were in Charlotte playing UNC and SC at that tournament and made some comments to the paper about taking Jason with him to FSU but if he didn’t get the job said he didn’t want him going to ODU. Bye bye
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RE: Drew Williamson
(03-24-2023 05:48 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 05:44 PM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 05:35 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:23 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  I lived through the Capel hate bc he lived in my neighborhood and Jason went to
My high school

For Taylor- lol. You should have been on the boards. Especially our old friends like Razor.
People hates his style and thought he couldnt win big games

I lived through the Capel years as a fan, but didn't know him personally. Met him tons of times and I thought he was an awesome guy. No idea, what could have happened in the neighborhood but I hope it wasnt anything awful. Im speaking strictly as one observing the fan base over the years. I know quite a few long time fans, and while its just my experience, none felt any ill will toward Capel. But yes, the program had started to trend downward and most agreed it was time for something new. Which is ironic now, since Jeff has done much worse than JC and is still here.

I was on the boards during the end of the BT reign, and Im familiar with Razor's antics. But you know he is not representative of the majority of the fan base. His (and a few others) whole schtick is to get people agitated and riled up. Again, just my experience, but I saw many people who recognized Blaine needed to be fired at the end. He really did. But they also knew he had a problem and wanted him to get it taken care of. There was some anger that he had crashed our ship on the rocks in the process, but very little ill will toward him personally.

I wouldn't deny Drew a chance to coach at his alma mater just because if it didn't work out people might not think of him as highly. The dude is one of the best point guards in ODU history. He's my favorite one ever. Nothing he does as a coach will ever change that. I would hope most people would feel that way. Same with Mike Jones. I remember standing on the tournament floor when he was on the ladder cutting down the nets. Theres an iconic photo of him up there. Thats how Ill always remember Mike Jones, whether he's ever our coach or not too.

You can say Jones did worse than Capel but Jones has not had 3 losing seasons in 4 years like Capel. Capel never went dancing with only his own players. Jones did.

The 97 New Mexico NCAA tournament game was with his players - Poag, Cal, Bassett, Dunlap, EJ, Youngblood, Byers. We were in Pittsburgh and almost won that one.

EJ and Odell were Purnell guys

We’ll 85% was his lol
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(03-24-2023 02:56 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  There are separate issues with hiring Drew.

1- The inexperience. Obviously this is the issue with a lot of head coaches but he' never been a head coach anywhere as far as I can tell. Ideally he would get some experience at a lower level. Does anyone have any evidence that he would be the one to take over FAU?

2- Legacy hire. Every coach ODU has had for 30 years has been hated. (Not universally but a lot of hate). From Capel to Taylor to Jones. Do we want that for Drew if he has 1 bad season? Or if he decides to take another job? If Im making a legacy hire , I want to be very confident that it is gonna work out and not be taking an enormous risk.

Lol this is crazy. we have a 30 year coach that can’t win and is so out of touch with today’s game. Nothing wrong with giving Drew on the job training. Probably won’t be able to hold him though if / when he succeeds
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RE: Drew Williamson
(03-24-2023 05:44 PM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 05:35 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:23 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  I lived through the Capel hate bc he lived in my neighborhood and Jason went to
My high school

For Taylor- lol. You should have been on the boards. Especially our old friends like Razor.
People hates his style and thought he couldnt win big games

I lived through the Capel years as a fan, but didn't know him personally. Met him tons of times and I thought he was an awesome guy. No idea, what could have happened in the neighborhood but I hope it wasnt anything awful. Im speaking strictly as one observing the fan base over the years. I know quite a few long time fans, and while its just my experience, none felt any ill will toward Capel. But yes, the program had started to trend downward and most agreed it was time for something new. Which is ironic now, since Jeff has done much worse than JC and is still here.

I was on the boards during the end of the BT reign, and Im familiar with Razor's antics. But you know he is not representative of the majority of the fan base. His (and a few others) whole schtick is to get people agitated and riled up. Again, just my experience, but I saw many people who recognized Blaine needed to be fired at the end. He really did. But they also knew he had a problem and wanted him to get it taken care of. There was some anger that he had crashed our ship on the rocks in the process, but very little ill will toward him personally.

I wouldn't deny Drew a chance to coach at his alma mater just because if it didn't work out people might not think of him as highly. The dude is one of the best point guards in ODU history. He's my favorite one ever. Nothing he does as a coach will ever change that. I would hope most people would feel that way. Same with Mike Jones. I remember standing on the tournament floor when he was on the ladder cutting down the nets. Theres an iconic photo of him up there. Thats how Ill always remember Mike Jones, whether he's ever our coach or not too.

You can say Jones did worse than Capel but Jones has not had 3 losing seasons in 4 years like Capel. Capel never went dancing with only his own players. Jones did.

The 97 New Mexico NCAA tournament game was with his players - Poag, Cal, Bassett, Dunlap, EJ, Youngblood, Byers. We were in Pittsburgh and almost won that one.

Capel was significantly worse. He had I believe one good year outside of what he was inherited.

Drew has been an FBS assistant for less than 2 years. In a few years you may be able to argue he’s qualified but hes not ready to be an FBS head coach with no head coaching experience and less than 2 years of being an FBS assistant. Maybe a lower level FBS.

If FAU hires him and hes successful…sobeit, I love the guy. But Im not ready to hire someone that inexperienced just bc hes a legacy hire
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Concern about hating Drew in the event that he was unsuccessful at ODU isn't anything to worry about. It shouldn't even be in the equation. Drew would be the one to make that call anyway.

I've been following the team since Sonny Allen was the coach. Haven't seen one yet that people hated on a personal level whether they wanted him replaced, he retired, or left for another job. Coaches underperforming or leaving to coach somewhere else is just part of the game.
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RE: Drew Williamson
(03-24-2023 06:09 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 05:44 PM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 05:35 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:23 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  I lived through the Capel hate bc he lived in my neighborhood and Jason went to
My high school

For Taylor- lol. You should have been on the boards. Especially our old friends like Razor.
People hates his style and thought he couldnt win big games

I lived through the Capel years as a fan, but didn't know him personally. Met him tons of times and I thought he was an awesome guy. No idea, what could have happened in the neighborhood but I hope it wasnt anything awful. Im speaking strictly as one observing the fan base over the years. I know quite a few long time fans, and while its just my experience, none felt any ill will toward Capel. But yes, the program had started to trend downward and most agreed it was time for something new. Which is ironic now, since Jeff has done much worse than JC and is still here.

I was on the boards during the end of the BT reign, and Im familiar with Razor's antics. But you know he is not representative of the majority of the fan base. His (and a few others) whole schtick is to get people agitated and riled up. Again, just my experience, but I saw many people who recognized Blaine needed to be fired at the end. He really did. But they also knew he had a problem and wanted him to get it taken care of. There was some anger that he had crashed our ship on the rocks in the process, but very little ill will toward him personally.

I wouldn't deny Drew a chance to coach at his alma mater just because if it didn't work out people might not think of him as highly. The dude is one of the best point guards in ODU history. He's my favorite one ever. Nothing he does as a coach will ever change that. I would hope most people would feel that way. Same with Mike Jones. I remember standing on the tournament floor when he was on the ladder cutting down the nets. Theres an iconic photo of him up there. Thats how Ill always remember Mike Jones, whether he's ever our coach or not too.

You can say Jones did worse than Capel but Jones has not had 3 losing seasons in 4 years like Capel. Capel never went dancing with only his own players. Jones did.

The 97 New Mexico NCAA tournament game was with his players - Poag, Cal, Bassett, Dunlap, EJ, Youngblood, Byers. We were in Pittsburgh and almost won that one.

Capel was significantly worse. He had I believe one good year outside of what he was inherited.

Drew has been an FBS assistant for less than 2 years. In a few years you may be able to argue he’s qualified but hes not ready to be an FBS head coach with no head coaching experience and less than 2 years of being an FBS assistant. Maybe a lower level FBS.

If FAU hires him and hes successful…sobeit, I love the guy. But Im not ready to hire someone that inexperienced just bc hes a legacy hire

Put me in the ‘don’t think Capel was a good coach’ category but give him credit for 1 good recruiting class. I watched the Sonny Allen teams but still feel we are cruised for Jarrett firing Paul Webb right after he got an at large and got bounced again in the first round. The big donors of the day wanted more than just getting in the dance. My have times changed. Now we would do anything for a 12 seed.
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RE: Drew Williamson
(03-24-2023 06:09 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 05:44 PM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 05:35 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 03:23 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  I lived through the Capel hate bc he lived in my neighborhood and Jason went to
My high school

For Taylor- lol. You should have been on the boards. Especially our old friends like Razor.
People hates his style and thought he couldnt win big games

I lived through the Capel years as a fan, but didn't know him personally. Met him tons of times and I thought he was an awesome guy. No idea, what could have happened in the neighborhood but I hope it wasnt anything awful. Im speaking strictly as one observing the fan base over the years. I know quite a few long time fans, and while its just my experience, none felt any ill will toward Capel. But yes, the program had started to trend downward and most agreed it was time for something new. Which is ironic now, since Jeff has done much worse than JC and is still here.

I was on the boards during the end of the BT reign, and Im familiar with Razor's antics. But you know he is not representative of the majority of the fan base. His (and a few others) whole schtick is to get people agitated and riled up. Again, just my experience, but I saw many people who recognized Blaine needed to be fired at the end. He really did. But they also knew he had a problem and wanted him to get it taken care of. There was some anger that he had crashed our ship on the rocks in the process, but very little ill will toward him personally.

I wouldn't deny Drew a chance to coach at his alma mater just because if it didn't work out people might not think of him as highly. The dude is one of the best point guards in ODU history. He's my favorite one ever. Nothing he does as a coach will ever change that. I would hope most people would feel that way. Same with Mike Jones. I remember standing on the tournament floor when he was on the ladder cutting down the nets. Theres an iconic photo of him up there. Thats how Ill always remember Mike Jones, whether he's ever our coach or not too.

You can say Jones did worse than Capel but Jones has not had 3 losing seasons in 4 years like Capel. Capel never went dancing with only his own players. Jones did.

The 97 New Mexico NCAA tournament game was with his players - Poag, Cal, Bassett, Dunlap, EJ, Youngblood, Byers. We were in Pittsburgh and almost won that one.

Capel was significantly worse. He had I believe one good year outside of what he was inherited.

Drew has been an FBS assistant for less than 2 years. In a few years you may be able to argue he’s qualified but hes not ready to be an FBS head coach with no head coaching experience and less than 2 years of being an FBS assistant. Maybe a lower level FBS.

If FAU hires him and hes successful…sobeit, I love the guy. But Im not ready to hire someone that inexperienced just bc hes a legacy hire

Since when do you not get credit for winning with some players you inherited? Purnell didn’t win the tournament with almost the same team the year before. It’s true the young guys developed a year but Hodge went down to a season ending injury plus our backcourt graduated the year before. Kevin Swan and Kevin Larkin were a huge loss to make up. Capel started a freshman PG in Brion Dunlap and lost Hodge for the year with a knee injury. Don’t tell me he won only because he inherited all the players.
That was a great job of coaching by him to keep the team together after Hodge went down. Plus the NCAA win is arguably the best win in our D1 history. I’ll take Capel any day over Jeff Jones.
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Yeah, let's wait until he has success as a HC at a "lower level" school, then we can get him no problem. Where have we seen that before?? For God's sakes, that's how we wound up with Jeff in the first place! Andy Enfield was the guy until he had success at that lower level, now look at him. And look at us. We need a change at head coach (nothing personal, Jeff is a good guy, runs a clean program, all that), and we need to bring excitement back to the program. Also, Drew isn't at a level yet that he'd break the bank, we can't discount that part of the equation either. I mean, unless we're convincing K, Roy, or Boeheim to come out of retirement, it just makes a lot of sense to go with Drew.
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A lot of people have brought up Jeff Capel and his time at ODU as the head coach. As far as the discussion of Drew Williamson goes and whether or not he is experienced enough to be awarded the position of head coach at Old Dominion at this point in his career, we should really be talking about his son - Jeff Capel III.

Jeff Capel III started his coaching resume by signing on as an assistant coach under his father Jeff Capel II during the 2000-01 season at Old Dominion. After that season ended and his father was replaced by Blaine Taylor, Jeff Capel III moved on to become an assistant coach at VCU (2001). With a sum total of 2 seasons of coaching experience - all of it as an assistant coach at the mid-major level - Jeff Capel III was awarded the head coaching position at VCU starting with the 2002-03 season. They took a chance on him. At 27 years of age, he was the youngest D1 basketball coach at the time. In the 2003-04 season, he led the Rams to their 1st NCAA Tournament appearance since 1996 and was awarded the VaSID coach of the year award. During his 4 seasons as the coach of the Rams, he had a .658 winning percentage which was the highest of any D1 program in the state of Virginia. His record against Old Dominion during that time was 7-3. This season he was selected as the ACC coach of the year, and he led his Pittsburgh team to the NCAA Tournament with a 21-10 record.

Drew already has significantly more experience than Jeff Capel III had when he took over at VCU.
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(03-24-2023 07:35 PM)odugrad10 Wrote:  Yeah, let's wait until he has success as a HC at a "lower level" school, then we can get him no problem. Where have we seen that before?? For God's sakes, that's how we wound up with Jeff in the first place! Andy Enfield was the guy until he had success at that lower level, now look at him. And look at us. We need a change at head coach (nothing personal, Jeff is a good guy, runs a clean program, all that), and we need to bring excitement back to the program. Also, Drew isn't at a level yet that he'd break the bank, we can't discount that part of the equation either. I mean, unless we're convincing K, Roy, or Boeheim to come out of retirement, it just makes a lot of sense to go with Drew.

SOLID post. Right on, exactly how I feel.

ODU is now a also ran, I'm afraid. A has been. A once was. Medicore, average squad. 6th place, pre-season picked 9th place team, in a lowly regarded league.

We should be first in line, hat in hand for a guy like Drew Williamson, a former Monarch great. He goes somewhere else to coach first, he ain't coming here after that.

This program is in need of EXCITEMENT, as this solid post above stats. Right on "odugrad10".
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(03-24-2023 09:39 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  A lot of people have brought up Jeff Capel and his time at ODU as the head coach. As far as the discussion of Drew Williamson goes and whether or not he is experienced enough to be awarded the position of head coach at Old Dominion at this point in his career, we should really be talking about his son - Jeff Capel III.

Jeff Capel III started his coaching resume by signing on as an assistant coach under his father Jeff Capel II during the 2000-01 season at Old Dominion. After that season ended and his father was replaced by Blaine Taylor, Jeff Capel III moved on to become an assistant coach at VCU (2001). With a sum total of 2 seasons of coaching experience - all of it as an assistant coach at the mid-major level - Jeff Capel III was awarded the head coaching position at VCU starting with the 2002-03 season. They took a chance on him. At 27 years of age, he was the youngest D1 basketball coach at the time. In the 2003-04 season, he led the Rams to their 1st NCAA Tournament appearance since 1996 and was awarded the VaSID coach of the year award. During his 4 seasons as the coach of the Rams, he had a .658 winning percentage which was the highest of any D1 program in the state of Virginia. His record against Old Dominion during that time was 7-3. This season he was selected as the ACC coach of the year, and he led his Pittsburgh team to the NCAA Tournament with a 21-10 record.

Drew already has significantly more experience than Jeff Capel III had when he took over at VCU.

Stop in BB. You make too much sense. We need experience !! Oh yeah, Jones had experience. Never mind. Let's go! Bring back some excitement, make a change ODU.
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We would be extremely lucky to get Drew right now. This guy has been a winner everywhere he's played and coached. My guess is he's going to have a glowing recommendation from his current HC and you're going to see him end up at a lower P5 school. These ADs nowadays have to think outside the box. Based on what Drew accomplished here from the first day he got here the guy has that "it" factor that everyone talks about and he's a born leader. If JJ does surprise us and retire then he should be the leading candidate to replace him IMO.
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(03-25-2023 02:39 AM)mac Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 07:35 PM)odugrad10 Wrote:  Yeah, let's wait until he has success as a HC at a "lower level" school, then we can get him no problem. Where have we seen that before?? For God's sakes, that's how we wound up with Jeff in the first place! Andy Enfield was the guy until he had success at that lower level, now look at him. And look at us. We need a change at head coach (nothing personal, Jeff is a good guy, runs a clean program, all that), and we need to bring excitement back to the program. Also, Drew isn't at a level yet that he'd break the bank, we can't discount that part of the equation either. I mean, unless we're convincing K, Roy, or Boeheim to come out of retirement, it just makes a lot of sense to go with Drew.

SOLID post. Right on, exactly how I feel.

ODU is now a also ran, I'm afraid. A has been. A once was. Medicore, average squad. 6th place, pre-season picked 9th place team, in a lowly regarded league.

We should be first in line, hat in hand for a guy like Drew Williamson, a former Monarch great. He goes somewhere else to coach first, he ain't coming here after that.

This program is in need of EXCITEMENT, as this solid post above stats. Right on "odugrad10".

This would be somewhat similar to the Kim English hire. Providence wants to be a big time BE program and yet they hire a guy that struggled to coach in the A10. They did so hoping English could grow into the position, hoping he has upside.everyone loves him, But hes still unqualified for the position. Maybe he works out….

Everyone loves Drew. No one on here knows his abilities as a coach. We just know hes never been a HC or lead assistant at the FBS level (I believe). We know hes been an assistant since July 2021. If hes hired, Im gonna be his biggest fan.

Would people support Coach Kovy being hired as the head coach?
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(03-25-2023 06:55 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  
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(03-24-2023 07:35 PM)odugrad10 Wrote:  Yeah, let's wait until he has success as a HC at a "lower level" school, then we can get him no problem. Where have we seen that before?? For God's sakes, that's how we wound up with Jeff in the first place! Andy Enfield was the guy until he had success at that lower level, now look at him. And look at us. We need a change at head coach (nothing personal, Jeff is a good guy, runs a clean program, all that), and we need to bring excitement back to the program. Also, Drew isn't at a level yet that he'd break the bank, we can't discount that part of the equation either. I mean, unless we're convincing K, Roy, or Boeheim to come out of retirement, it just makes a lot of sense to go with Drew.

SOLID post. Right on, exactly how I feel.

ODU is now a also ran, I'm afraid. A has been. A once was. Medicore, average squad. 6th place, pre-season picked 9th place team, in a lowly regarded league.

We should be first in line, hat in hand for a guy like Drew Williamson, a former Monarch great. He goes somewhere else to coach first, he ain't coming here after that.

This program is in need of EXCITEMENT, as this solid post above stats. Right on "odugrad10".

This would be somewhat similar to the Kim English hire. Providence wants to be a big time BE program and yet they hire a guy that struggled to coach in the A10. They did so hoping English could grow into the position, hoping he has upside.everyone loves him, But hes still unqualified for the position. Maybe he works out….

Everyone loves Drew. No one on here knows his abilities as a coach. We just know hes never been a HC or lead assistant at the FBS level (I believe). We know hes been an assistant since July 2021. If hes hired, Im gonna be his biggest fan.

Would people support Coach Kovy being hired as the head coach?

At this point, I’d say not, unless he played an instrumental role in taking us to the elite 8 or something. and then we lost the head coach that got us there. If he did that, then sure.
03-25-2023 07:33 AM
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RE: Drew Williamson
(03-25-2023 06:55 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  
(03-25-2023 02:39 AM)mac Wrote:  
(03-24-2023 07:35 PM)odugrad10 Wrote:  Yeah, let's wait until he has success as a HC at a "lower level" school, then we can get him no problem. Where have we seen that before?? For God's sakes, that's how we wound up with Jeff in the first place! Andy Enfield was the guy until he had success at that lower level, now look at him. And look at us. We need a change at head coach (nothing personal, Jeff is a good guy, runs a clean program, all that), and we need to bring excitement back to the program. Also, Drew isn't at a level yet that he'd break the bank, we can't discount that part of the equation either. I mean, unless we're convincing K, Roy, or Boeheim to come out of retirement, it just makes a lot of sense to go with Drew.

SOLID post. Right on, exactly how I feel.

ODU is now a also ran, I'm afraid. A has been. A once was. Medicore, average squad. 6th place, pre-season picked 9th place team, in a lowly regarded league.

We should be first in line, hat in hand for a guy like Drew Williamson, a former Monarch great. He goes somewhere else to coach first, he ain't coming here after that.

This program is in need of EXCITEMENT, as this solid post above stats. Right on "odugrad10".

This would be somewhat similar to the Kim English hire. Providence wants to be a big time BE program and yet they hire a guy that struggled to coach in the A10. They did so hoping English could grow into the position, hoping he has upside.everyone loves him, But hes still unqualified for the position. Maybe he works out….

Everyone loves Drew. No one on here knows his abilities as a coach. We just know hes never been a HC or lead assistant at the FBS level (I believe). We know hes been an assistant since July 2021. If hes hired, Im gonna be his biggest fan.

Would people support Coach Kovy being hired as the head coach?

It’s thinking like this that destroyed our program and led to the hire of JJ. Yes when we finally get rid of JJ let’s go hire another low level coach just because he has some experience as HC lol
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03-25-2023 08:24 AM
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"Williamson comes to FAU from Virginia State where he was an assistant coach for eight years. At VSU, Williamson had been promoted to associate head coach. In his eight seasons on staff, Williamson helped lead the Trojans to six consecutive CIAA Northern Division tiles, two conference tournament championships and four NCAA Division II Tournament appearances. Throughout Williamson’s time on staff, the program averaged 21 wins per season."

From his bio on the FAU page. He was part of a pretty successful D2 program. I'd hire him in a heartbeat.
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Drew wanted the come back for the assistant coach opening instead JJ hired the film manager with no BB experience
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(03-25-2023 08:34 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  Drew wanted the come back for the assistant coach opening instead JJ hired the film manager with no BB experience

Are you seriously trying to claim Kovy has no BB experience? Do you realize who he trained?
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(03-25-2023 08:45 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  
(03-25-2023 08:34 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  Drew wanted the come back for the assistant coach opening instead JJ hired the film manager with no BB experience

Are you seriously trying to claim Kovy has no BB experience? Do you realize who he trained?

My impression is that Kovy is supposed to be really good at teaching basketball skills.
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