(03-10-2023 03:46 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 03:17 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 02:28 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 01:00 PM)Ourland Wrote:  1. Army (I think we get them this time)
2. & 3. Air Force & Boise State(if they are left behind; go to 16)
4. Georgia State
5. Liberty

Here we go again. Rinse and Repeat. Calling the SBC troops

What?

Whenever the AAC considers SBC adds, a group of SBC fans usually jumps on saying that the SBC fans, that lobbied for AAC membership for their teams but then forgot that they ever did that and went all sour grapes after we picked CUSA backfills, never actually wanted to be in the AAC and prefer SBC exposure/money over AAC exposure/money until one of their teams gets poached and they have to change their story again.

Shorter version: The SBC teams are happier where they are and prefer the SBC

Gotcha. That's great!

(03-10-2023 03:48 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 01:27 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 01:00 PM)Ourland Wrote:  1. Army (I think we get them this time)
2. & 3. Air Force & Boise State(if they are left behind; go to 16)
4. Georgia State
5. Liberty

Army said no WITH Houston, UCF and Cinci. They'll say yes now because?

“The realignment certainly gets your attention,” Army athletic director Mike Buddie said. “We weigh that option every year. We value our independence so much, it just hasn’t made sense for us up to this point. But the shifting tides of conference realignment, expanded college football playoff, all those things could play a factor in re-evaluating.”

Imagine an independent, ranked, 12-1 Army team being relegated to the Armed Forces bowl instead of the CFP. That would be a disaster for them.

I think Army might want to play in a division with Navy, Tulsa, Rice and Tulane and a couple of Texas schools for recruiting.

The only issue would be the timing of the Army-Navy game. They get a big TV deal and viewership because they are one of a handful of games when they play.

If SMU goes to the Pac, then SDSU has departed the MWC as well. Who the hell do they go after? UTEP? Texas St? Or do they stand pat or maybe drop Hawaii football and go with 10?

(03-20-2023 10:19 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  I think Army might want to play in a division with Navy, Tulsa, Rice and Tulane and a couple of Texas schools for recruiting.

The only issue would be the timing of the Army-Navy game. They get a big TV deal and viewership because they are one of a handful of games when they play.

If SMU goes to the Pac, then SDSU has departed the MWC as well. Who the hell do they go after? UTEP? Texas St? Or do they stand pat or maybe drop Hawaii football and go with 10?

Ain't got no divisions. Dingo got our divisions.

Obviously Army and Navy would be each other's conference rival game. On the rare occasion both are in the AAC Champ game I'd imagine the AAC would forgo it's own champ game and declare the winner of Army-Navy the conference champ.

To me the MWC either goes division-less and stays at 11 or picks up UTEP. I don't see the reasoning behind them dropping Hawai'i.

(03-10-2023 09:06 AM)PowderKeg! Wrote:  

(02-09-2023 12:13 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(02-08-2023 10:30 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If recent history is to be believed, wouldn't the ESPN properties of the SunBelt and MAC once again be off limits for the AAC? That would leave C-USA, MAC, or Independents.

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I should correct myself, that was supposed to say MWC not MAC, since the MAC is an ESPN property. With that said others have mentioned that previously the goal was to weaken C-USA and not weaken the ESPN properties. Now that C-USA has been weakened I could see ESPN allowing a MAC or SunBelt program to move over to the AAC (to bolster the AAC as much as possible) and then the MAC/SunBelt backfilling from FCS (or C-USA). Assuming Army says no, I'm thinking Georgia St is THE choice for the AAC (they were near the top of my list of expansion candidates when they ultimately went for the C-USA6 instead. If they are again limited to C-USA I think Liberty is the only viable option that has the money and the recent success and doesn't double up any markets. ESPN also has the recently had a contract with an Independent Liberty so they could bring them back into the fold. Relatively good travel partner for ECU, Navy, and Temple. After Liberty in C-USA you'd probably have WKU but I'm not sure what kind of upside they really have or if they can claim any market outside of Bowling Green, KY.

If all realistic options were on the table for the AAC (I don't consider poaching the MWC as realistic) these would be my top choices in order:

1. Army
2. Georgia St
3. App St
4. Liberty
5. Buffalo
6. WKU

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You guys do realize that UNT was invited to counter an SMU loss. Also, we don’t want Liberty, a school of whacko Christian Taliban who built their empire draining old ladies retirement accounts while they dialed for Jesus.

Yes, Georgia State is the only viable choice. R1 reseach U with nearly 50k students in one of the biggest media markets.

Meanwhile....
https://ecupirates.com/news/2023/1/17/ec...eries.aspx

"East Carolina and Liberty have agreed to a two-year home-and-home football series in 2024 and 2029 according to a joint announcement by both institutions Tuesday."

(03-20-2023 11:29 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 09:06 AM)PowderKeg! Wrote:  

(02-09-2023 12:13 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(02-08-2023 10:30 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If recent history is to be believed, wouldn't the ESPN properties of the SunBelt and MAC once again be off limits for the AAC? That would leave C-USA, MAC, or Independents.

Sent from my LM-G820 using CSNbbs mobile app

I should correct myself, that was supposed to say MWC not MAC, since the MAC is an ESPN property. With that said others have mentioned that previously the goal was to weaken C-USA and not weaken the ESPN properties. Now that C-USA has been weakened I could see ESPN allowing a MAC or SunBelt program to move over to the AAC (to bolster the AAC as much as possible) and then the MAC/SunBelt backfilling from FCS (or C-USA). Assuming Army says no, I'm thinking Georgia St is THE choice for the AAC (they were near the top of my list of expansion candidates when they ultimately went for the C-USA6 instead. If they are again limited to C-USA I think Liberty is the only viable option that has the money and the recent success and doesn't double up any markets. ESPN also has the recently had a contract with an Independent Liberty so they could bring them back into the fold. Relatively good travel partner for ECU, Navy, and Temple. After Liberty in C-USA you'd probably have WKU but I'm not sure what kind of upside they really have or if they can claim any market outside of Bowling Green, KY.

If all realistic options were on the table for the AAC (I don't consider poaching the MWC as realistic) these would be my top choices in order:

1. Army
2. Georgia St
3. App St
4. Liberty
5. Buffalo
6. WKU

Sent from my LM-G820 using CSNbbs mobile app

You guys do realize that UNT was invited to counter an SMU loss. Also, we don’t want Liberty, a school of whacko Christian Taliban who built their empire draining old ladies retirement accounts while they dialed for Jesus.

Yes, Georgia State is the only viable choice. R1 reseach U with nearly 50k students in one of the biggest media markets.

Meanwhile....
https://ecupirates.com/news/2023/1/17/ec...eries.aspx

"East Carolina and Liberty have agreed to a two-year home-and-home football series in 2024 and 2029 according to a joint announcement by both institutions Tuesday."

Yeah we got in a jam when BYU moved out game at the last minute with the Big 12 move. We kind of went the regional SBC route with the 2024 schedule.

Norfolk State
ODU
App State
Liberty

Every OOC game that year is drivable for both fanbases.

(03-20-2023 12:21 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 11:29 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 09:06 AM)PowderKeg! Wrote:  

(02-09-2023 12:13 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(02-08-2023 10:30 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If recent history is to be believed, wouldn't the ESPN properties of the SunBelt and MAC once again be off limits for the AAC? That would leave C-USA, MAC, or Independents.

Sent from my LM-G820 using CSNbbs mobile app

I should correct myself, that was supposed to say MWC not MAC, since the MAC is an ESPN property. With that said others have mentioned that previously the goal was to weaken C-USA and not weaken the ESPN properties. Now that C-USA has been weakened I could see ESPN allowing a MAC or SunBelt program to move over to the AAC (to bolster the AAC as much as possible) and then the MAC/SunBelt backfilling from FCS (or C-USA). Assuming Army says no, I'm thinking Georgia St is THE choice for the AAC (they were near the top of my list of expansion candidates when they ultimately went for the C-USA6 instead. If they are again limited to C-USA I think Liberty is the only viable option that has the money and the recent success and doesn't double up any markets. ESPN also has the recently had a contract with an Independent Liberty so they could bring them back into the fold. Relatively good travel partner for ECU, Navy, and Temple. After Liberty in C-USA you'd probably have WKU but I'm not sure what kind of upside they really have or if they can claim any market outside of Bowling Green, KY.

If all realistic options were on the table for the AAC (I don't consider poaching the MWC as realistic) these would be my top choices in order:

1. Army
2. Georgia St
3. App St
4. Liberty
5. Buffalo
6. WKU

Sent from my LM-G820 using CSNbbs mobile app

You guys do realize that UNT was invited to counter an SMU loss. Also, we don’t want Liberty, a school of whacko Christian Taliban who built their empire draining old ladies retirement accounts while they dialed for Jesus.

Yes, Georgia State is the only viable choice. R1 reseach U with nearly 50k students in one of the biggest media markets.

Meanwhile....
https://ecupirates.com/news/2023/1/17/ec...eries.aspx

"East Carolina and Liberty have agreed to a two-year home-and-home football series in 2024 and 2029 according to a joint announcement by both institutions Tuesday."

Yeah we got in a jam when BYU moved out game at the last minute with the Big 12 move. We kind of went the regional SBC route with the 2024 schedule.

Norfolk State
ODU
App State
Liberty

Every OOC game that year is drivable for both fanbases.

Yes we tried very hard to get a game with State. They actually had a 24 slot open, but opted for a buy game with Marshall instead. Looking out for their fan-base.

(03-20-2023 12:21 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 11:29 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 09:06 AM)PowderKeg! Wrote:  

(02-09-2023 12:13 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(02-08-2023 10:30 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If recent history is to be believed, wouldn't the ESPN properties of the SunBelt and MAC once again be off limits for the AAC? That would leave C-USA, MAC, or Independents.

Sent from my LM-G820 using CSNbbs mobile app

I should correct myself, that was supposed to say MWC not MAC, since the MAC is an ESPN property. With that said others have mentioned that previously the goal was to weaken C-USA and not weaken the ESPN properties. Now that C-USA has been weakened I could see ESPN allowing a MAC or SunBelt program to move over to the AAC (to bolster the AAC as much as possible) and then the MAC/SunBelt backfilling from FCS (or C-USA). Assuming Army says no, I'm thinking Georgia St is THE choice for the AAC (they were near the top of my list of expansion candidates when they ultimately went for the C-USA6 instead. If they are again limited to C-USA I think Liberty is the only viable option that has the money and the recent success and doesn't double up any markets. ESPN also has the recently had a contract with an Independent Liberty so they could bring them back into the fold. Relatively good travel partner for ECU, Navy, and Temple. After Liberty in C-USA you'd probably have WKU but I'm not sure what kind of upside they really have or if they can claim any market outside of Bowling Green, KY.

If all realistic options were on the table for the AAC (I don't consider poaching the MWC as realistic) these would be my top choices in order:

1. Army
2. Georgia St
3. App St
4. Liberty
5. Buffalo
6. WKU

Sent from my LM-G820 using CSNbbs mobile app

You guys do realize that UNT was invited to counter an SMU loss. Also, we don’t want Liberty, a school of whacko Christian Taliban who built their empire draining old ladies retirement accounts while they dialed for Jesus.

Yes, Georgia State is the only viable choice. R1 reseach U with nearly 50k students in one of the biggest media markets.

Meanwhile....
https://ecupirates.com/news/2023/1/17/ec...eries.aspx

"East Carolina and Liberty have agreed to a two-year home-and-home football series in 2024 and 2029 according to a joint announcement by both institutions Tuesday."

Yeah we got in a jam when BYU moved out game at the last minute with the Big 12 move. We kind of went the regional SBC route with the 2024 schedule.

Norfolk State
ODU
App State
Liberty

Every OOC game that year is drivable for both fanbases.

Greenville to Provo is not that bad of a drive if you pack some snacks and are efficient with the potty breaks

(03-20-2023 10:19 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  I think Army might want to play in a division with Navy, Tulsa, Rice and Tulane and a couple of Texas schools for recruiting.

The only issue would be the timing of the Army-Navy game. They get a big TV deal and viewership because they are one of a handful of games when they play.

If SMU goes to the Pac, then SDSU has departed the MWC as well. Who the hell do they go after? UTEP? Texas St? Or do they stand pat or maybe drop Hawaii football and go with 10?

Army/Navy is the ONLY game played on that 2nd Saturday in Dec (week after Championship Saturday), which is why both of those programs rake in Millions of $$ just from that 1 game.

If that game had to be moved to Oct or Nov...it would be going up against dozens of other games and it wouldn't be nearly as valuable to CBS to have that game going up against top SEC, Big Ten and other games.

Army was once in CUSA and that was a disaster....but Army has built up their program with mostly friendly Independent Schedules so I don't ever see Army joining a football conf again...especially the SAME conf as Navy.

(03-23-2023 04:49 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 10:19 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  I think Army might want to play in a division with Navy, Tulsa, Rice and Tulane and a couple of Texas schools for recruiting.

The only issue would be the timing of the Army-Navy game. They get a big TV deal and viewership because they are one of a handful of games when they play.

If SMU goes to the Pac, then SDSU has departed the MWC as well. Who the hell do they go after? UTEP? Texas St? Or do they stand pat or maybe drop Hawaii football and go with 10?

Army/Navy is the ONLY game played on that 2nd Saturday in Dec (week after Championship Saturday), which is why both of those programs rake in Millions of $$ just from that 1 game.

If that game had to be moved to Oct or Nov...it would be going up against dozens of other games and it wouldn't be nearly as valuable to CBS to have that game going up against top SEC, Big Ten and other games.

Army was once in CUSA and that was a disaster....but Army has built up their program with mostly friendly Independent Schedules so I don't ever see Army joining a football conf again...especially the SAME conf as Navy.

I actually believe UH, Cincinnati, and UCF leaving makes the AAC a more realistic place for Army to compete.

Navy being here only makes it more attractive to them IMO.

Army needs a conference now. They can't get FBS opponents to play them at home, they're left out of the CFP, and they're stuck in the Armed Forces Bowl.

(03-20-2023 10:19 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  I think Army might want to play in a division with Navy, Tulsa, Rice and Tulane and a couple of Texas schools for recruiting.

The only issue would be the timing of the Army-Navy game. They get a big TV deal and viewership because they are one of a handful of games when they play.

If SMU goes to the Pac, then SDSU has departed the MWC as well. Who the hell do they go after? UTEP? Texas St? Or do they stand pat or maybe drop Hawaii football and go with 10?

Its been kicked around quite a bit and the only way it works is sorta quirky. You put Army and Navy in opposite divisions. Army stays east. They never play each other in conference play. They would only meet after the AAC season has concluded---allowing the Army-Navy Game to be played on its traditional date and basically treated like an OOC game. The final issue is how the Army-Navy game is handled if BOTH Army and Navy win their respective divisions in the same year. In that case, the AAC championship game is not played and the traditional Army-Navy game becomes the AAC CCG. The next time the Army-Navy contract renews---there would be a new clause inserted that allows for a special boost in pay for the game when it is also functions as a CCG---and that special bonus would be split between the AAC and the AAC rights holder as compensation.