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Holy ****. Saw a few mountain lions when I lived in Colorado, but that dude is twice their size. And with a bow??!!

FWIW, just outside of South Park. Perfect.

That’s rath porn right there.

(01-20-2023 09:00 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  That’s rath porn right there.

Oh man. That is mountain man sh!t. Most dudes can't sit still in a stand with a bow to get within 25 yards of nearly domesticated deer...9,000+ feet up a snow covered mountain with a bow to get near enough to Shere Khan? Hoo dog.

If he were a true dumb*** he'd have dragged that 200 lb beast up a mountain not down it. Ask me how I know. I needed O2 and crash paddles in he hollers of KY this past November. Luckily mini Rath is 21, has about 2% body fat and is a workout junkie. I probably need to forget that stand location until I install a ski lift.

(01-20-2023 09:24 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-20-2023 09:00 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  That’s rath porn right there.

Oh man. That is mountain man sh!t. Most dudes can't sit still in a stand with a bow to get within 25 yards of nearly domesticated deer...9,000+ feet up a snow covered mountain with a bow to get near enough to Shere Khan? Hoo dog.

If he were a true dumb*** he'd have dragged that 200 lb beast up a mountain not down it. Ask me how I know. I needed O2 and crash paddles in he hollers of KY this past November. Luckily mini Rath is 21, has about 2% body fat and is a workout junkie. I probably need to forget that stand location until I install a ski lift.

Crowdfund it. Maybe Doss will make a godfather offer.

Tangle with a 200 pound cat at over 9k feet? Doesn't sound like much fun to me but good for him. I was hiking at 7200 feet last week and was sucking wind on any of the uphill grades. I'm not all that fond of tussling with a 10 pound house cat.

Lions gonna be lions, and mule deer are a favored natural prey. No need to kill a noble animal for that. No need to kill a lion for roaming around a rural neighborhood, either. Where I live, in western Colorado, they come and go as they please, usually undetected, and they seldom pose a threat to humans. Dogs are a different matter. If folks let their dogs run free, they're fair game. And if folks walk their dogs in lion country, they're more likely to experience a scary encounter with a lion than if they're walking alone. To a lion, a dog is just a potential snack.

Many years ago, skiing alone on the Liberty Cap Trail in Colorado National Monument, I turned around after reaching a high point on the trail and was heading back toward the trailhead when I encountered fresh lion tracks crossing my twenty-minute-old ski tracks. The pug marks in the snow were the same size as the baskets on my ski poles -- five inches in diameter. If that lion had known what a lousy skier I was, I'd have been easy prey. In my mind's eye, I see it crouched in the sagebrush near the trail, the end of its tail nervously twitching back and forth as it watches me glide by.

More recently, while walking toward a highway intersection one evening, I saw one run across the pavement in front of me, squeeze under a guard-rail on the opposing side of the road, and disappear in the brushy draw just beyond. Of course, I did the only sensible thing I could think of and ran over for a closer look. In the gathering darkness, I couldn't see the cat in the shadows, but I knew it could see me, so I slowly backed off and then continued my walk home. In my thousands of miles of hiking out here, it's the only lion I've ever seen. As the crow flies, it was 3/8 mile from my house.

Suggested reading: The Beast in the Garden, by David Baron. A good read, the book chronicles a number of human/lion interactions, some with less than happy endings for the humans involved. Just off I-70 on the east edge of Idaho Springs, there's a wooden pedestrian bridge, the Scott Lancaster Memorial Bridge. Scott was a high school cross-country athlete out for an evening jog when he was dragged down and killed by a lion. Did Scott trigger the cat's natural instinct to pursue as he jogged by, or did he bend over to tie a loose shoelace and appear smaller and more vulnerable than usual? We'll never know.

I know this is probably a minority opinion, but I'd rather remember Derek Wolfe for his exploits at Nippert and Mile High Stadium rather than as the killer of a lion.

People were losing livestock and family dogs to that thing. When you live near big predators and said big predators start taking easy meals around humans, I'm betting you'd be stressed about having a toddler in the yard.

Why do you hate children and puppies, Hank?

(01-20-2023 02:37 PM)colohank Wrote:  Lions gonna be lions, and mule deer are a favored natural prey. No need to kill a noble animal for that. No need to kill a lion for roaming around a rural neighborhood, either. Where I live, in western Colorado, they come and go as they please, usually undetected, and they seldom pose a threat to humans. Dogs are a different matter. If folks let their dogs run free, they're fair game. And if folks walk their dogs in lion country, they're more likely to experience a scary encounter with a lion than if they're walking alone. To a lion, a dog is just a potential snack.

Many years ago, skiing alone on the Liberty Cap Trail in Colorado National Monument, I turned around after reaching a high point on the trail and was heading back toward the trailhead when I encountered fresh lion tracks crossing my twenty-minute-old ski tracks. The pug marks in the snow were the same size as the baskets on my ski poles -- five inches in diameter. If that lion had known what a lousy skier I was, I'd have been easy prey. In my mind's eye, I see it crouched in the sagebrush near the trail, the end of its tail nervously twitching back and forth as it watches me glide by.

More recently, while walking toward a highway intersection one evening, I saw one run across the pavement in front of me, squeeze under a guard-rail on the opposing side of the road, and disappear in the brushy draw just beyond. Of course, I did the only sensible thing I could think of and ran over for a closer look. In the gathering darkness, I couldn't see the cat in the shadows, but I knew it could see me, so I slowly backed off and then continued my walk home. In my thousands of miles of hiking out here, it's the only lion I've ever seen. As the crow flies, it was 3/8 mile from my house.

Suggested reading: The Beast in the Garden, by David Baron. A good read, the book chronicles a number of human/lion interactions, some with less than happy endings for the humans involved. Just off I-70 on the east edge of Idaho Springs, there's a wooden pedestrian bridge, the Scott Lancaster Memorial Bridge. Scott was a high school cross-country athlete out for an evening jog when he was dragged down and killed by a lion. Did Scott trigger the cat's natural instinct to pursue as he jogged by, or did he bend over to tie a loose shoelace and appear smaller and more vulnerable than usual? We'll never know.

I know this is probably a minority opinion, but I'd rather remember Derek Wolfe for his exploits at Nippert and Mile High Stadium rather than as the killer of a lion.

The issue now is that Derek Wolfe must spend the rest of his life on the run from other, stronger Mountain Lions. Such is the circle of life.

Kinda odd to see a cat like that in the day time. I wonder if it was sick or something, given other rumors that it had been breaking into people's homes around town.

(01-20-2023 03:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  People were losing livestock and family dogs to that thing. When you live near big predators and said big predators start taking easy meals around humans, I'm betting you'd be stressed about having a toddler in the yard.

Why do you hate children and puppies, Hank?

I don't hate all kids. My wife and I raised three of them in the hinterlands, and all of them somehow survived toddlerhood and reached adulthood relatively unscathed. Neither do I hate dogs, but then I lived most of my working life in national parks where dogs either weren't permitted or where, if they were allowed, they'd just be preyed upon by larger critters. Who needs a dog when you can look out the kitchen window and see the occasional bison or bear wander by?

The size of that thing really is beautiful. Ironically, I think one on one a lion like that would have no problem with a lone wolf. But if there's a pack...

Yeah, we have black bear up here but those are just huge poorly behaved dogs most of the time. People flip out when they show up but you have to do something incredibly stupid or woefully unlucky to have a problem with them.

Bobcats are harmless unless you leave chickens out all night. The grey and red fox are like little skittish pets.

Even the porcupine are harmless although people shoot them. I walk them off the property like I'm shooing a basset hound away.

I'd let a mountain lion walk unless it threatened my family or my neighbors but I don't sweat anyone who has the stones to legally hunt them with a bow. That was an incredibly tough feat he pulled off.

Only thing I sling arrows at that I don't eat are coyotes. Invasive disease ridden critters pick off pets and decimate the wildlife that I build habitat for...quail, ruffles and spruce grouse, turkey, rabbits, etc. . Mangy mutts....

I agree on Coyotes. We have them all around in North Carolina and they are a damn nuisance/danger to family pets and livestock. I've always considered myself a fisherman but if I had to shoot something to kill it would be coyotes or feral hogs - damn invasive species that destroys farmland/crops. We do have some black bears that pass through my county but I have yet to ever see one or a track from one in the nearly 19 years living down here. Let's keep it that way...

(01-20-2023 03:09 PM)Cat_Litter Wrote:  

(01-20-2023 02:37 PM)colohank Wrote:  Lions gonna be lions, and mule deer are a favored natural prey. No need to kill a noble animal for that. No need to kill a lion for roaming around a rural neighborhood, either. Where I live, in western Colorado, they come and go as they please, usually undetected, and they seldom pose a threat to humans. Dogs are a different matter. If folks let their dogs run free, they're fair game. And if folks walk their dogs in lion country, they're more likely to experience a scary encounter with a lion than if they're walking alone. To a lion, a dog is just a potential snack.

Many years ago, skiing alone on the Liberty Cap Trail in Colorado National Monument, I turned around after reaching a high point on the trail and was heading back toward the trailhead when I encountered fresh lion tracks crossing my twenty-minute-old ski tracks. The pug marks in the snow were the same size as the baskets on my ski poles -- five inches in diameter. If that lion had known what a lousy skier I was, I'd have been easy prey. In my mind's eye, I see it crouched in the sagebrush near the trail, the end of its tail nervously twitching back and forth as it watches me glide by.

More recently, while walking toward a highway intersection one evening, I saw one run across the pavement in front of me, squeeze under a guard-rail on the opposing side of the road, and disappear in the brushy draw just beyond. Of course, I did the only sensible thing I could think of and ran over for a closer look. In the gathering darkness, I couldn't see the cat in the shadows, but I knew it could see me, so I slowly backed off and then continued my walk home. In my thousands of miles of hiking out here, it's the only lion I've ever seen. As the crow flies, it was 3/8 mile from my house.

Suggested reading: The Beast in the Garden, by David Baron. A good read, the book chronicles a number of human/lion interactions, some with less than happy endings for the humans involved. Just off I-70 on the east edge of Idaho Springs, there's a wooden pedestrian bridge, the Scott Lancaster Memorial Bridge. Scott was a high school cross-country athlete out for an evening jog when he was dragged down and killed by a lion. Did Scott trigger the cat's natural instinct to pursue as he jogged by, or did he bend over to tie a loose shoelace and appear smaller and more vulnerable than usual? We'll never know.

I know this is probably a minority opinion, but I'd rather remember Derek Wolfe for his exploits at Nippert and Mile High Stadium rather than as the killer of a lion.

That’s just sad.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/pets...978ca2b9b4

People should know better than to let their pets out in lion country.

(01-25-2023 07:43 PM)colohank Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/pets...978ca2b9b4

People should know better than to let their pets out in lion country.

The homeowner and the dog were out for a morning walk. It wasn't like the dog was left to wander by itself. It's something folks have to be aware of but it's also part of the risk of living in certain parts of the country where bear, cougs, wolves, etc., reside. That said, I wish more folks would not let their dogs wander loose in their neighborhoods. We have leash laws for a reason.

Humans move farther into where the predators live en masse, one of two things happen.

I can tell you which one it would be for me and nobody I personally know stands up for habitat and the native critters that reside in them than I do.

We built a cabin up above Gatlinburg a couple of years ago. Been going down to that area 2-3x per year for over 20 years. Never saw much bears. However, Bears are regulars at the cabin. Afraid i am going to walk out to the car one night and have a close encounter. They seem to give no ***** about humans.