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Moral victories are found in the loss column.

If the team learned valuable lessons that help it win in the post season, that's a good thing, but we've accumulated too many losses already with plenty of conference season left

Good podcast as usual. But I will make one disagreement.

Even IF this team manages to win the CUSA tournament, it still did not live up to expectations. Winning the conference tournament and getting back to the big dance for the second year in a row would be a nice salve for the wound this team has opened, but it won't make me forget about this teams shortcomings - as it shouldn't make any fan forget its shortcomings. To forget about everything just because we win 3 games (hopefully not 4 games) in 3 days, is over rationalizing and blowing over the huge mistakes this team has made.

We were supposed to win the conference regular season and get an at large bid. You will say the margin of error on those things is razor thin. I agree, but this team without a doubt should have accomplished both, or at the very least been very close to doing so. We are light years away from both. We are sitting in the middle of the standings in CONFERENCE USA with a .500 record past halfway mark of the season. That is unacceptable for UAB. That is doubly unacceptable for THIS specific team.

The coaching and the players have not been up to par this season. Winning the CUSA tournament doesn't change that. We should above "just playing to get better to win the CUSA tournament," but that seems to be the standard that we are OK with if we forget about this teams myriad of shortcomings and the goals it did not accomplish.

If the season were to end today, this would the most disappointing team in UAB basketball history. We've been a failure to this point in the season.

^ This.

Re the refs: At this point I think there's something of a pattern of the teams leaving the conference getting the brown end of the stick more often than probability would call for.

(01-18-2023 01:55 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Good podcast as usual. But I will make one disagreement.

Even IF this team manages to win the CUSA tournament, it still did not live up to expectations. Winning the conference tournament and getting back to the big dance for the second year in a row would be a nice salve for the wound this team has opened, but it won't make me forget about this teams shortcomings - as it shouldn't make any fan forget its shortcomings. To forget about everything just because we win 3 games (hopefully not 4 games) in 3 days, is over rationalizing and blowing over the huge mistakes this team has made.

We were supposed to win the conference regular season and get an at large bid. You will say the margin of error on those things is razor thin. I agree, but this team without a doubt should have accomplished both, or at the very least been very close to doing so. We are light years away from both. We are sitting in the middle of the standings in CONFERENCE USA with a .500 record past halfway mark of the season. That is unacceptable for UAB. That is doubly unacceptable for THIS specific team.

The coaching and the players have not been up to par this season. Winning the CUSA tournament doesn't change that. We should above "just playing to get better to win the CUSA tournament," but that seems to be the standard that we are OK with if we forget about this teams myriad of shortcomings and the goals it did not accomplish.

If the season were to end today, this would the most disappointing team in UAB basketball history. We've been a failure to this point in the season.

Too early to say that. 4 games by 8 points or whatever, clean up even a handful of possessions and this team has 17 wins with the same flaws but we aren’t making as big a deal of them even though we would be just as capable of a one and done March. I have also seen teams that barely were above 500 in their conference make it to the final 8 and beyond. I don’t think they think any less of their banners.

(01-18-2023 01:55 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Good podcast as usual. But I will make one disagreement.

Even IF this team manages to win the CUSA tournament, it still did not live up to expectations. Winning the conference tournament and getting back to the big dance for the second year in a row would be a nice salve for the wound this team has opened, but it won't make me forget about this teams shortcomings - as it shouldn't make any fan forget its shortcomings. To forget about everything just because we win 3 games (hopefully not 4 games) in 3 days, is over rationalizing and blowing over the huge mistakes this team has made.

We were supposed to win the conference regular season and get an at large bid. You will say the margin of error on those things is razor thin. I agree, but this team without a doubt should have accomplished both, or at the very least been very close to doing so. We are light years away from both. We are sitting in the middle of the standings in CONFERENCE USA with a .500 record past halfway mark of the season. That is unacceptable for UAB. That is doubly unacceptable for THIS specific team.

The coaching and the players have not been up to par this season. Winning the CUSA tournament doesn't change that. We should above "just playing to get better to win the CUSA tournament," but that seems to be the standard that we are OK with if we forget about this teams myriad of shortcomings and the goals it did not accomplish.

If the season were to end today, this would the most disappointing team in UAB basketball history. We've been a failure to this point in the season.

Thanks for listening and I definitely understand what you’re saying here. The season so far has been frustrating for everyone involved. Let’s see how these next 12 conference games go before Frisco.

Thank you baby Jesus no more "Frisco"
It sounds bush league

(01-18-2023 02:53 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 01:55 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Good podcast as usual. But I will make one disagreement.

Even IF this team manages to win the CUSA tournament, it still did not live up to expectations. Winning the conference tournament and getting back to the big dance for the second year in a row would be a nice salve for the wound this team has opened, but it won't make me forget about this teams shortcomings - as it shouldn't make any fan forget its shortcomings. To forget about everything just because we win 3 games (hopefully not 4 games) in 3 days, is over rationalizing and blowing over the huge mistakes this team has made.

We were supposed to win the conference regular season and get an at large bid. You will say the margin of error on those things is razor thin. I agree, but this team without a doubt should have accomplished both, or at the very least been very close to doing so. We are light years away from both. We are sitting in the middle of the standings in CONFERENCE USA with a .500 record past halfway mark of the season. That is unacceptable for UAB. That is doubly unacceptable for THIS specific team.

The coaching and the players have not been up to par this season. Winning the CUSA tournament doesn't change that. We should above "just playing to get better to win the CUSA tournament," but that seems to be the standard that we are OK with if we forget about this teams myriad of shortcomings and the goals it did not accomplish.

If the season were to end today, this would the most disappointing team in UAB basketball history. We've been a failure to this point in the season.

Too early to say that. 4 games by 8 points or whatever, clean up even a handful of possessions and this team has 17 wins with the same flaws but we aren’t making as big a deal of them even though we would be just as capable of a one and done March. I have also seen teams that barely were above 500 in their conference make it to the final 8 and beyond. I don’t think they think any less of their banners.

I agree with you, but that's why I said if the season ended today... I don't think we'd even get an NIT bid right now. That would be an abject failure.

Even if we do go on a run, this team still will not have met all of its goals. I always think it's more impressive to win a conference regular season crown vs. a tournament - 20ish games over 3-4 months vs. 3-4 over a long weekend. I don't know why the emphasis has been placed on tournaments over sustained, season-long success, but that's the way it is.

(01-18-2023 03:01 PM)jcduncan13 Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 01:55 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Good podcast as usual. But I will make one disagreement.

Even IF this team manages to win the CUSA tournament, it still did not live up to expectations. Winning the conference tournament and getting back to the big dance for the second year in a row would be a nice salve for the wound this team has opened, but it won't make me forget about this teams shortcomings - as it shouldn't make any fan forget its shortcomings. To forget about everything just because we win 3 games (hopefully not 4 games) in 3 days, is over rationalizing and blowing over the huge mistakes this team has made.

We were supposed to win the conference regular season and get an at large bid. You will say the margin of error on those things is razor thin. I agree, but this team without a doubt should have accomplished both, or at the very least been very close to doing so. We are light years away from both. We are sitting in the middle of the standings in CONFERENCE USA with a .500 record past halfway mark of the season. That is unacceptable for UAB. That is doubly unacceptable for THIS specific team.

The coaching and the players have not been up to par this season. Winning the CUSA tournament doesn't change that. We should above "just playing to get better to win the CUSA tournament," but that seems to be the standard that we are OK with if we forget about this teams myriad of shortcomings and the goals it did not accomplish.

If the season were to end today, this would the most disappointing team in UAB basketball history. We've been a failure to this point in the season.

Thanks for listening and I definitely understand what you’re saying here. The season so far has been frustrating for everyone involved. Let’s see how these next 12 conference games go before Frisco.

Yep. I actually liked what I saw effort wise from the team against MTSU. We played our asses off and gave great effort pretty much all game long. I hadn't seen that to this point in the season, maybe to a degree against WKU and La Tech, but we definitely turned it up a notch against MTSU. We just lost because our guys like to run their mouths and we couldn't the broad side of a barn.

If we can give that same effort, stop shooting ourselves in the foot so much, and integrate jelly back into the team, the sky is the limit. I like the way the team has played much better with a bigger rotation the last 3 games or so, much better than Gaines and Jelly getting 35+ minutes and playing basically 7 guys.

Lovan, Butta, Davis, and Toney can all contribute, and deserve to play. We are better with a bigger rotation.

(01-18-2023 02:17 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  ^ This.

Re the refs: At this point I think there's something of a pattern of the teams leaving the conference getting the brown end of the stick more often than probability would call for.

I am starting to wonder if the constant jawing of guys like Buffen and Gaines is not getting us shafted by the refs as well. The refs in the MTSU game seemed to have a vendetta against us. The raw foul numbers were basically even, but got damn they got away with so many fouls on us. Then Dishman bumps his large butt into jemison when he's posting up and we get a foul called on us immediately. Freaking ridiculous.

Just like in football, when you get a reputation the refs will validate that rep for you. And opponents will bait you.

^Bingo. Don't forget the Gaines T occurred very early, then the Buffen one at the end of the first half. Buffen's 2nd foul (going over the back) can be explained away, but foul 3 (the tech) and 5 (trying to reach in and tie up a guy under our basket in OT with a lead) are very very bad. It was shocking to see so many "blocks" by MT with no whistle, but (i) you shouldn't expect to get that call on the road; and (ii) you shouldn't show your ass to the refs.

At this point, we just need to be building towards playing our best basketball heading into Frisco and getting a 1st round bye.

Buffen also needs to be smarter with the reach fouls. We counter some of our defensive issues by switching up to to the 1-3-1. It isn’t something we can do, or do well, when he sits 20 minutes because of two silly reaches and a tech because he couldn’t keep his mouth closed.

Buffen's definitely going for the school record for technical fouls!

(01-18-2023 03:22 PM)CyberBlazer Wrote:  Thank you baby Jesus no more "Frisco"
It sounds bush league

Unfortunately it's still in Texas, but at least it's in a REAL ARENA instead of the Curtain Warehouse football practice field.

Dickies Arena looks like a nice arena for a tournament.

Like it being neutral--no more FedEx Forum please! Also I don't mind Texas one bit.

i can't even think about the CUSA tourney...

I'm kinda concerned about beating UNT at home Saturday.