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There is some talk of Brey to Georgetown Seems like that would be a terrible decision. They need to just back up the brinks truck and give whatever it takes to Cooley, who might be able to do some damage with more support.

Seriously, if Brey gets the Georgetown job, that would be the very definition of failing up. Essentially get fired from one job, only to get a better one.

(02-15-2023 09:05 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  There is some talk of Brey to Georgetown Seems like that would be a terrible decision. They need to just back up the brinks truck and give whatever it takes to Cooley, who might be able to do some damage with more support.

I think you would be shocked at the results he would have at Georgetown. Obviously, this is opinion based, but Brey is a really good coach who has had a horrible year because the seniors refuse to guard anyone, and the freshman are not as good as advertised. I think Brey would be awesome at Georgetown.

Brey is a good coach who has lost his fastball. Has 1 tournament bid in 6 years, while coaching in the ACC. I think he would stabilize the program at Georgetown (and maybe that's just what they need right now), but I'm not convinced he'd help them reach their potential. I think someone like Pat Kelsey, while maybe a bigger risk, has a higher ceiling.

(02-15-2023 09:28 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 09:05 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  There is some talk of Brey to Georgetown Seems like that would be a terrible decision. They need to just back up the brinks truck and give whatever it takes to Cooley, who might be able to do some damage with more support.

I think you would be shocked at the results he would have at Georgetown. Obviously, this is opinion based, but Brey is a really good coach who has had a horrible year because the seniors refuse to guard anyone, and the freshman are not as good as advertised. I think Brey would be awesome at Georgetown.

This. Brey makes a lot of sense at Georgetown to me for this reason. They need a coach that can come in and get that program back on solid footing. There can be no failure in this hire. Brey is a solid coach that will turn things around to the point that they are competitive pretty quickly. He is also getting older and probably doesn't want to coach to far into the future, so once he stabilizes the program and builds something competitive, you will be positioned to hire someone to push you over the top with the next hire.

That said, Cooley would probably be a good hire as well.

(02-15-2023 09:28 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 09:05 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  There is some talk of Brey to Georgetown Seems like that would be a terrible decision. They need to just back up the brinks truck and give whatever it takes to Cooley, who might be able to do some damage with more support.

I think you would be shocked at the results he would have at Georgetown. Obviously, this is opinion based, but Brey is a really good coach who has had a horrible year because the seniors refuse to guard anyone, and the freshman are not as good as advertised. I think Brey would be awesome at Georgetown.

Brey never has good defenses, he just isn't a good defensive coach. He's had like 6 straight not top 25 teams and this year is a trainwreck.

I think he could be a coach that got them back into the top 100 (heck Ewing had them in the top 100 several times), but they need someone that can consistently put them in the top 25 with at large bids being automatic.

(02-15-2023 11:50 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 09:28 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 09:05 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  There is some talk of Brey to Georgetown Seems like that would be a terrible decision. They need to just back up the brinks truck and give whatever it takes to Cooley, who might be able to do some damage with more support.

I think you would be shocked at the results he would have at Georgetown. Obviously, this is opinion based, but Brey is a really good coach who has had a horrible year because the seniors refuse to guard anyone, and the freshman are not as good as advertised. I think Brey would be awesome at Georgetown.

Brey never has good defenses, he just isn't a good defensive coach. He's had like 6 straight not top 25 teams and this year is a trainwreck.

I think he could be a coach that got them back into the top 100 (heck Ewing had them in the top 100 several times), but they need someone that can consistently put them in the top 25 with at large bids being automatic.

Your single minded focus on defense is becoming akin to Big Blue Bobby's obsession with tall people.

(02-15-2023 12:40 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 11:50 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 09:28 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 09:05 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  There is some talk of Brey to Georgetown Seems like that would be a terrible decision. They need to just back up the brinks truck and give whatever it takes to Cooley, who might be able to do some damage with more support.

I think you would be shocked at the results he would have at Georgetown. Obviously, this is opinion based, but Brey is a really good coach who has had a horrible year because the seniors refuse to guard anyone, and the freshman are not as good as advertised. I think Brey would be awesome at Georgetown.

Brey never has good defenses, he just isn't a good defensive coach. He's had like 6 straight not top 25 teams and this year is a trainwreck.

I think he could be a coach that got them back into the top 100 (heck Ewing had them in the top 100 several times), but they need someone that can consistently put them in the top 25 with at large bids being automatic.

Your single minded focus on defense is becoming akin to Big Blue Bobby's obsession with tall people.

You can get away with great offense and average defense, but you aren't competing for titles without a top 30 defense. If his defense was even average, I wouldn't care much about it, but he just consistently has terrible defenses. He's had 1 top 50 defense at Notre Dame. (43)

Ignoring this year, he's a guy with ACC talent putting up defenses: 203, 107, 158, 185, 153, 136, etc.

It wouldn't be much different if it was a coach that was all defense. Ewing cannot coach defense a lick, but at least he can find a way to put up a top 150 defense. (and Brey is a better coach overall, but he should be at a Dayton or another good mid major)

(02-15-2023 01:05 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 12:40 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 11:50 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 09:28 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 09:05 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  There is some talk of Brey to Georgetown Seems like that would be a terrible decision. They need to just back up the brinks truck and give whatever it takes to Cooley, who might be able to do some damage with more support.

I think you would be shocked at the results he would have at Georgetown. Obviously, this is opinion based, but Brey is a really good coach who has had a horrible year because the seniors refuse to guard anyone, and the freshman are not as good as advertised. I think Brey would be awesome at Georgetown.

Brey never has good defenses, he just isn't a good defensive coach. He's had like 6 straight not top 25 teams and this year is a trainwreck.

I think he could be a coach that got them back into the top 100 (heck Ewing had them in the top 100 several times), but they need someone that can consistently put them in the top 25 with at large bids being automatic.

Your single minded focus on defense is becoming akin to Big Blue Bobby's obsession with tall people.

You can get away with great offense and average defense, but you aren't competing for titles without a top 30 defense. If his defense was even average, I wouldn't care much about it, but he just consistently has terrible defenses. He's had 1 top 50 defense at Notre Dame. (43)

Ignoring this year, he's a guy with ACC talent putting up defenses: 203, 107, 158, 185, 153, 136, etc.

It wouldn't be much different if it was a coach that was all defense. Ewing cannot coach defense a lick, but at least he can find a way to put up a top 150 defense. (and Brey is a better coach overall, but he should be at a Dayton or another good mid major)

I know one that should be looking for a coach in about a month. Just sayin...

(02-15-2023 09:05 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  There is some talk of Brey to Georgetown Seems like that would be a terrible decision. They need to just back up the brinks truck and give whatever it takes to Cooley, who might be able to do some damage with more support.

Why would Cooley leave Providence for G’town??? He’s from there. I think it would take a bigger name (blue blood) to get him out of RI.

(02-15-2023 01:40 PM)ODUi Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 09:05 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  There is some talk of Brey to Georgetown Seems like that would be a terrible decision. They need to just back up the brinks truck and give whatever it takes to Cooley, who might be able to do some damage with more support.

Why would Cooley leave Providence for G’town??? He’s from there. I think it would take a bigger name (blue blood) to get him out of RI.

He would probably make more than double at Gtown.

(02-15-2023 01:45 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 01:40 PM)ODUi Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 09:05 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  There is some talk of Brey to Georgetown Seems like that would be a terrible decision. They need to just back up the brinks truck and give whatever it takes to Cooley, who might be able to do some damage with more support.

Why would Cooley leave Providence for G’town??? He’s from there. I think it would take a bigger name (blue blood) to get him out of RI.

He would probably make more than double at Gtown.

Gotta imagine the NIL opportunities are much greater as well. Deep pockets for GTown donors.

He's making $3.4 million at Providence. He's had other opportunities to leave. He might consider Georgetown, but I still think I'd be surprised.

(02-15-2023 02:16 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  He's making $3.4 million at Providence. He's had other opportunities to leave. He might consider Georgetown, but I still think I'd be surprised.

There was some talk of interest in Cooley back when Ewing was hired. Ewing has around 4 million as just his base salary. They could pay someone 5-6 million.

(02-15-2023 02:51 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 02:16 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  He's making $3.4 million at Providence. He's had other opportunities to leave. He might consider Georgetown, but I still think I'd be surprised.

There was some talk of interest in Cooley back when Ewing was hired. Ewing has around 4 million as just his base salary. They could pay someone 5-6 million.

Let me put it this way, unless Georgetown also fires Ronny Thompson, I'd be surprised to see Cooley go there.

(02-15-2023 02:53 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 02:51 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 02:16 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  He's making $3.4 million at Providence. He's had other opportunities to leave. He might consider Georgetown, but I still think I'd be surprised.

There was some talk of interest in Cooley back when Ewing was hired. Ewing has around 4 million as just his base salary. They could pay someone 5-6 million.

Let me put it this way, unless Georgetown also fires Ronny Thompson, I'd be surprised to see Cooley go there.

I haven't heard if they are at odds bc Cooley and the Thompson family are super close.

(02-15-2023 03:04 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 02:53 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 02:51 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 02:16 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  He's making $3.4 million at Providence. He's had other opportunities to leave. He might consider Georgetown, but I still think I'd be surprised.

There was some talk of interest in Cooley back when Ewing was hired. Ewing has around 4 million as just his base salary. They could pay someone 5-6 million.

Let me put it this way, unless Georgetown also fires Ronny Thompson, I'd be surprised to see Cooley go there.

I haven't heard if they are at odds bc Cooley and the Thompson family are super close.

Oh, for sure, they are tight. But, I can't imagine Cooley is going to give up his autonomy at Providence just to have Ronny, even if he is a friend, lurking in the background.

FWIW- people comnected at Georgetown are saying they have been reaching out to Cooleys people.

Not sure if its true but I bet they make a run at him.

(02-17-2023 08:41 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  FWIW- people comnected at Georgetown are saying they have been reaching out to Cooleys people.

Not sure if its true but I bet they make a run at him.

Cooley is an absolute stud! That would be scary to see him at G-town with those resources.

I honestly don't know off the top of my head...coach K produce any good head coaches? Dawkins is not doing anything with a NBA lottery pick handed to him.

Im just down on legacy hires at the moment. Let them show they can coach at a lower level.