(12-23-2022 12:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-23-2022 11:30 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  Why did Chadwell, whose stock seemingly couldn't be higher, leave Coastal for Liberty? That is such an odd situation regardless of if they are offering P5-ish money.

He'll claim discussion about joining a Christian University etc, but the most likely scenario is he got offered far better money than Coastal could have paid him, and he has to know that Coastal's window to win a title with this group of players is closing, so his stock is probably as high as it is going to get over next few years.

Just like any good coach he’ll have good reasons on the surface why it’s a good fit. But we all know it is the money / resources. He’s getting paid better than a lower P5 and will have just as good or better facilities. I think Chief is right on that he knew his stock wouldn’t likely get any better.

Good for him. I don’t like how he left but he earned a bigger pay day. In turn, we have been able to get some coaches with great experience. Hopefully it will be enough to compete at the top of the SBC and get back in the national conversation.

There's a rumor on the Troy boards that McCall has bad grades. Rumor says UF and AU had to pass because of it.

(12-23-2022 11:34 PM)Trojanbybirth Wrote:  There's a rumor on the Troy boards that McCall has bad grades. Rumor says UF and AU had to pass because of it.

The auburn press said it wasn’t grades but that Auburn didn’t have his major so wouldn’t have enough credits transfer in. No idea about UF.

(12-22-2022 10:28 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(12-22-2022 10:09 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  I think he just tested the transfer portal to see if anyone was going to make him an offer he couldn’t refuse. I think he’ll be declaring for the NFL.

I think one of the big schools did “promise” him big NIL money. I think he would like to get his draft stock to where it was preseason. It was high 2nd round at that point, now I think it’s 4th or lower. I think a season with Tim Beck who is known as a good QB coach and could probably work on some things outside the RPO thing would probably do Grayson some good. I don’t however have any earthly idea about any conversations which have occurred between Grayson and Beck.

Yes, his injury and the way the season played out definitely hurt his draft status.

Good luck to him whatever he decides. Personally, I’d advise him to go pro. He has nothing to gain by playing another year in some new system.

If any CCU fan is still trusting the words that come out of Chadwell they may want to get that team piss analyzed.

(12-23-2022 07:32 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(12-23-2022 12:41 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  

(12-23-2022 12:00 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-23-2022 11:34 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  

(12-23-2022 11:30 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  Why did Chadwell, whose stock seemingly couldn't be higher, leave Coastal for Liberty? That is such an odd situation regardless of if they are offering P5-ish money.

I think it’s a culture fit. Chadwell wanted to be back at a Christian university and Liberty is one of the largest Protestant universities and are paying him $4M a year. Win-win in his book.

Protestant? Thought they were Baptist...maybe I just don't know the difference.

Either way, I'm not moving to Lynchburg from Myrtle Beach or Georgetown, wherever he lived. I might buy land around Bedford or SML as a vacation home but I'm not living there.

Baptist is a form of Protestant. Protestant is basically any church formed after Martin Luther left the Catholic Church.

Lutheran, Protestant, Methodist, Baptist

And Baptist is also a pretty generic term. When most folks say Baptist they are referring to the Southern Baptist denomination. Liberty isn't a part of the Southern Baptist Association. There are any number of denominations with Baptist in their name. I believe Farwell's empire was built from a Independent Baptist church. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on that.

^This. However, Liberty had and may still have an affiliation/partnership with the SBCV (southern baptist conservatives of VA), as there are two southern Baptist associations in VA- one liberal/one conservative doctrinally. While they are not Southern Baptist, they were offering special scholarships to SBCV pastors for a while. I was a beneficiary of this for a time while doing my doctoral work. He’s correct about Falwell Sr., who started his church in the Donald Duck Juice bottling plant. For the record: I neither root for Liberty nor give to them.

Regarding McCall- what successful NFL QB does he remind folks of ? I have not watched him play much, and he was injured and may have been limited in the Troy game I did watch closely. I have not seen consistent arm strength because the opp has not been there in games I watched. He does seem accurate, but I have not seen anyone analyze his footwork/delivery/leadership etc. all that stuff the draft experts opine about.

(12-23-2022 09:27 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(12-22-2022 09:51 PM)charfan Wrote:  Any you guys know where McCall is transferring?

I had assumed he follows Chadwell but no news.

What’s going on here?

This was about McCall… right?

Truth is, you’d have to decide which tea leaves you want to read between, the truth is in there somewhere, and I don’t think anyone other than he and his representatives know.

There wasn’t a clear “go NFL/he’s ready/avoid another injury” vs “take another year to prove healthy and increase stock” decision.

There wasn’t a clear “move up to bigger school/pro style” vs “continue doing well at what he does at CCU or LU” decision.

There isn’t a clear “the NIL money isn’t enough” vs “his program major/grades are a transfer issue” answer.

We’ve heard everything from he basically dropped a ton of courses expecting to go pro, and now it’s bit him because admissions boards are balking (imagine Auburn balking at anything??) at his transfer, or even Coastal too, if he wants to stay. We’ve heard it’s a money grab opportunity, if sufficient, or he goes pro.

We know CCU fans want a statue of him, and will consider him the GOAT, even if he does move up… unless it’s to LU of course… then he’ll have been a sorry cripple this past year that wasted a year of our next, even better QB.

The last paragraph is entirely truth. The ones above… it likely falls somewhere in the middle.

Thanks for the info.

(12-23-2022 09:02 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(12-23-2022 09:38 AM)TealNation Wrote:  

(12-22-2022 10:13 PM)charfan Wrote:  Wow. I had no idea a bridge was burned. I sort of figured he would follow Chadwell cause of the RPO offense.

NFL seems like a good option. He’s likely ready.

Good luck to him wherever. Enjoyed watching him and Coastal play.

I can't recall any current players that have stated they will follow Chadwell to Liberty up to this point. That says a lot to me.

Coastal has been recruiting better each and every year as they’ve grown. That means kids recruited 2-3 years ago are currently below the level of incoming freshman… I.e. many wouldn’t even be getting looked at right now by Coastal.

Like it or not, LU is recruiting at least as well as Coastal, so the same would be true there.

So it’s no wonder not many are choosing to follow… it’s not really up to them to “choose” to do so.

Maybe you can speak to what him taking 3 current ‘23 recruits… I.e. 33% of our early signing class… says to you?

I would agree with you if Chadwell were going to the SEC but he's not. Why would Chadwell not want to bring in some of his recent recruits and some of our starters to ease the transition at Liberty? Even Napier brought some of his top Louisiana players to Florida to help the transition. It seems Chadwell would've had it easier to bring Coastal players to CUSA than Napier to the SEC. But no player will follow a coach that they have lost some respect for. Say what you want about Louisiana but Napier never lost his locker room.

As for the new recruits that flipped to Liberty, they have no idea what has went on in the locker room so everything is word to mouth for them. They are completely irrelevant to the players on our current roster that Chadwell played a major part in derailing the season of. They haven't played a down for the guy yet.

I just hope Coastal straightens out before the bowl. Chadwell is old news. Left for more money like Freeze, Malzahn, Harsin, Napier, and us if we could.

(12-24-2022 12:12 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I just hope Coastal straightens out before the bowl. Chadwell is old news. Left for more money like Freeze, Malzahn, Harsin, Napier, and us if we could.

I hope they can bounce back as well. I don't care if a coach leaves, it's up to the University to keep the ball rolling. Singular coaches shouldn't make programs. I do care about how these Head coaches conduct there departure. Hire someone that doesn't allow their external aspirations/decisions to hinder the efforts of the kids that have worked so hard all year to make that opportunity possible for you.

(12-24-2022 12:47 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(12-24-2022 12:12 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I just hope Coastal straightens out before the bowl. Chadwell is old news. Left for more money like Freeze, Malzahn, Harsin, Napier, and us if we could.

I hope they can bounce back as well. I don't care if a coach leaves, it's up to the University to keep the ball rolling. Singular coaches shouldn't make programs. I do care about how these Head coaches conduct there departure. Hire someone that doesn't allow their external aspirations/decisions to hinder the efforts of the kids that have worked so hard all year to make that opportunity possible for you.

How about, put your money where your mouth is as a school/program and don’t dis-enchant the greatest coach/program builder you’ve ever had? You guys have it all wrong.

And you have the Napier/ULL transfer to UF completely backwards. If you’re a recruit/player at Louisiana, you’re telling me you aren’t jumping at the chance to go SEC?? It’s an easy as a sell for Napier as breathing.

Try and get kids to follow to another G5, as you point out… to a lesser conference, and a school with stigmas for some?? Much harder. Insanely harder. Yet he took 33% of the best recruiting class we were ever building (a fourth if you count late offer/never committed RB Blue) with him? Despite those odds. Clearly, he doesn’t know what he’s doing… Sheesh.

(12-24-2022 07:27 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(12-24-2022 12:47 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(12-24-2022 12:12 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I just hope Coastal straightens out before the bowl. Chadwell is old news. Left for more money like Freeze, Malzahn, Harsin, Napier, and us if we could.

I hope they can bounce back as well. I don't care if a coach leaves, it's up to the University to keep the ball rolling. Singular coaches shouldn't make programs. I do care about how these Head coaches conduct there departure. Hire someone that doesn't allow their external aspirations/decisions to hinder the efforts of the kids that have worked so hard all year to make that opportunity possible for you.

How about, put your money where your mouth is as a school/program and don’t dis-enchant the greatest coach/program builder you’ve ever had? You guys have it all wrong.

And you have the Napier/ULL transfer to UF completely backwards. If you’re a recruit/player at Louisiana, you’re telling me you aren’t jumping at the chance to go SEC?? It’s an easy as a sell for Napier as breathing.

Try and get kids to follow to another G5, as you point out… to a lesser conference, and a school with stigmas for some?? Much harder. Insanely harder. Yet he took 33% of the best recruiting class we were ever building (a fourth if you count late offer/never committed RB Blue) with him? Despite those odds. Clearly, he doesn’t know what he’s doing… Sheesh.

The guy had the greatest QB in Coastal history and Sun Belt history. The only 3 time POY in history. Every other QB fielded has been average at best. This season would've been an absolute joke without McCall. He can thank him for his payday.

And are you serious??? Chadwell and his staff took three recruits...three to Liberty. Not to mention, one of them is from Virginia. It made sense for him wanting to stay home. Chadwell evidently stopped recruiting for Coastal at some point as well.