This is great for the AAC, but just remember......this is only 2 years. We do not know if the B1G is finished with the PAC over the next 2 years. They very easily could drop it to top 5 conferences when the next negotiations start for beyond 2 years.

(11-30-2022 10:27 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 10:20 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 10:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 10:16 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  Excellent news for us, we will be in the playoff just about every single year.

Hey, one year doesn't make you a dynasty, lol. I'm thinking you won 2 games last year.

Maybe the us he meant was the AAC.

I was referring to the league yes but I mean of course I hope it’s Tulane every one of those years.

Look, Tulane was 2-10 last year and look at them now.

Who’s 2-10 this year? USF?

Next year’s favorites!

(Which might be just a silly joke… but if they get Prime Time then 10-2 could be the downside next year for the Prime Bulls…)

So now I hope the PAC raids the MWC for Boise. This would leave the FunBelt as our only real competition.

(11-30-2022 11:39 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 09:59 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  https://sports.yahoo.com/report-college-...56849.html

Great news for the AAC

not necessarily!

It would be great news for the AAC if the AAC champ were to have an AQ (automatic) bid, but it doesn't.

Who knows which of the G5 conference champs will get the G5's playoff spot?

True, Tulane could be the champ of the AAC and the NY6 rep this year, but after UC, UCF, and UH depart, the AAC has no guarantee of being the top G5 conference year in and year out.

The Sun Belt has several schools with strong football programs. Most years, so does the MWC. Seems likely that those two conferences will be earning their fair share of CFP playoff bids.

That’s false, we are still light years ahead of the G4. Even with the defections we have sizzling new markets and decent academics. I find it a bit ridiculous they didn’t just give us the automatic bid. It will be ours every single year and it’s not even close. Strength of schedule matters big time and beating Texas State or Southern Miss or Akron is not the same as wins over Tulane or Memphis or ECU. It’s not even close and we need to start preparing ourselves to be in the playoffs every single year as a conference. Great times ahead.

(12-01-2022 08:33 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 11:39 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 09:59 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  https://sports.yahoo.com/report-college-...56849.html

Great news for the AAC

not necessarily!

It would be great news for the AAC if the AAC champ were to have an AQ (automatic) bid, but it doesn't.

Who knows which of the G5 conference champs will get the G5's playoff spot?

True, Tulane could be the champ of the AAC and the NY6 rep this year, but after UC, UCF, and UH depart, the AAC has no guarantee of being the top G5 conference year in and year out.

The Sun Belt has several schools with strong football programs. Most years, so does the MWC. Seems likely that those two conferences will be earning their fair share of CFP playoff bids.

That’s false, we are still light years ahead of the G4. Even with the defections we have sizzling new markets and decent academics. I find it a bit ridiculous they didn’t just give us the automatic bid. It will be ours every single year and it’s not even close. Strength of schedule matters big time and beating Texas State or Southern Miss or Akron is not the same as wins over Tulane or Memphis or ECU. It’s not even close and we need to start preparing ourselves to be in the playoffs every single year as a conference. Great times ahead.

Nothing was ever guaranteed.

What Milwaukee said about "no guarantees" was also true during the the NY6-bowl access years, but it was teams like UH, UCF, & UC that went and made it happen.

Now its up to Tulane and others to make it happen. Of course it can still be done, just don't expect it to be handed to the AAC.

(12-01-2022 08:55 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 08:33 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 11:39 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 09:59 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  https://sports.yahoo.com/report-college-...56849.html

Great news for the AAC

not necessarily!

It would be great news for the AAC if the AAC champ were to have an AQ (automatic) bid, but it doesn't.

Who knows which of the G5 conference champs will get the G5's playoff spot?

True, Tulane could be the champ of the AAC and the NY6 rep this year, but after UC, UCF, and UH depart, the AAC has no guarantee of being the top G5 conference year in and year out.

The Sun Belt has several schools with strong football programs. Most years, so does the MWC. Seems likely that those two conferences will be earning their fair share of CFP playoff bids.

That’s false, we are still light years ahead of the G4. Even with the defections we have sizzling new markets and decent academics. I find it a bit ridiculous they didn’t just give us the automatic bid. It will be ours every single year and it’s not even close. Strength of schedule matters big time and beating Texas State or Southern Miss or Akron is not the same as wins over Tulane or Memphis or ECU. It’s not even close and we need to start preparing ourselves to be in the playoffs every single year as a conference. Great times ahead.

Nothing was ever guaranteed.

What Milwaukee said about "no guarantees" was also true during the the NY6-bowl access years, but it was teams like UH, UCF, & UC that went and made it happen.

Now its up to Tulane and others to make it happen. Of course it can still be done, just don't expect it to be handed to the AAC.

I figure the reality already perceived by some will finally dawn on the rest about this time next year and there will be considerable rending of clothes and gnashing of teeth.

(11-30-2022 10:16 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  Excellent news for us, we will be in the playoff just about every single year.

SunBelt will probably be neck and neck with the AAC most years for the 6th Conf Champion slot (MWC might pop up with a Boise once or twice).

6th highest ranked Conf Champs receive auto-bids (6 other at-large bids)...thats a good thing for all.

(12-01-2022 06:27 AM)otown Wrote:  This is great for the AAC, but just remember......this is only 2 years. We do not know if the B1G is finished with the PAC over the next 2 years. They very easily could drop it to top 5 conferences when the next negotiations start for beyond 2 years.

The plan was for the new playoff format to start in 2026, so this news is just that it'll happen in 2024 and 2025 now too, rather than waiting for the last contract to expire after 2025. So the 12-team format with top 6 conference champions guaranteed is expected to continue well past 2025.

(12-01-2022 09:21 AM)rollgreenwave Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 06:27 AM)otown Wrote:  This is great for the AAC, but just remember......this is only 2 years. We do not know if the B1G is finished with the PAC over the next 2 years. They very easily could drop it to top 5 conferences when the next negotiations start for beyond 2 years.

The plan was for the new playoff format to start in 2026, so this news is just that it'll happen in 2024 and 2025 now too, rather than waiting for the last contract to expire after 2025. So the 12-team format with top 6 conference champions guaranteed is expected to continue well past 2025.

I do not believe you are correct. This agreement is ONLY for the last two years of the current contract. This is NOT and extention. It is also not autorenewing. A brand new contract will be negotiated for beyond these two years. That's where conference realignment can continue and if the PAC gets eaten, it is possible that it changes to top 5 conferences. Heck, it can even change to top 4, 3, or even 2. Nobody knows........

Since the AAC was formed...here were the members that made a BCS (under old contract for 2013 only) and NYD6 games:

2013: UCF (Fiesta Bowl...beat Big 12 Champ #6 Baylor)
2014: None...Boise State, beat Arizona in the Fiesta Bowl
2015: Houston (Peach Bowl...beat #9 FSU)
2016: None...Western Michigan...lost to Wisconsin in the Cotton Bowl
2017: UCF (Peach Bowl...beat Auburn)
2018: UCF (Fiesta Bowl...lost to LSU)
2019: Memphis (Cotton Bowl...lost to Penn State)
2020: Cincinnati (Peach Bowl...lost to Georgia)
2021: Cincinnati (CFP Cotton Bowl....lost to Alabama)

AAC wins in bold

The revamped Sunbelt with a soon to be eligible James Madison...goes along with App State, Coastal Carolina, Marshall, Troy, South Alabama, etc...could challenge for top G5 champ some years.

All four y’all are pretty close to right.

AAC won’t be quite as clearly best of the so-called G5 of old, but will still get more CFP spots than the other four.

Next four years, my prediction:

AAC 3
MWC 1
SBC 1
CUSA/MAC 0 (was going to say .5 mostly for Liberty, but I’m backing it off to 0 (+\-1) with Freeze gone.


Betcha I’m within +\- one on all of them.

Notice also that adds up to 5 of the next four years.

Which is the absolute best part of this, that there is a chance a P5 champ can still miss the playoffs even with 12 going (and 6 champs)

Big picture on this is I’m pumped and this is HUGE and I can finally watch CFP games now! (ok I watched Cincy last year of course)

(12-01-2022 09:44 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  All four y’all are pretty close to right.

AAC won’t be quite as clearly best of the so-called G5 of old, but will still get more CFP spots than the other four.

Next four years, my prediction:

AAC 3
MWC 1
SBC 1
CUSA/MAC 0 (was going to say .5 mostly for Liberty, but I’m backing it off to 0 (+\-1) with Freeze gone.


Betcha I’m within +\- one on all of them.

Notice also that adds up to 5 of the next four years.

Which is the absolute best part of this, that there is a chance a P5 champ can still miss the playoffs even with 12 going (and 6 champs)

Big picture on this is I’m pumped and this is HUGE and I can finally watch CFP games now! (ok I watched Cincy last year of course)

You listed five years. My prediction would be:

AAC 1.67 (e.g., Tulane & UTSA)
MWC 1.67 (e.g., Boise State & SDSU, Fresno, or Air Force)
SBC 1.67 (e.g., Troy & App. State, Louisiana, or Coastal)

(12-01-2022 10:52 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 09:44 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  All four y’all are pretty close to right.

AAC won’t be quite as clearly best of the so-called G5 of old, but will still get more CFP spots than the other four.

Next four years, my prediction:

AAC 3
MWC 1
SBC 1
CUSA/MAC 0 (was going to say .5 mostly for Liberty, but I’m backing it off to 0 (+\-1) with Freeze gone.


Betcha I’m within +\- one on all of them.

Notice also that adds up to 5 of the next four years.

Which is the absolute best part of this, that there is a chance a P5 champ can still miss the playoffs even with 12 going (and 6 champs)

Big picture on this is I’m pumped and this is HUGE and I can finally watch CFP games now! (ok I watched Cincy last year of course)

You listed five years. My prediction would be:

AAC 1.67 (e.g., Tulane & UTSA)
MWC 1.67 (e.g., Boise State & SDSU, Fresno, or Air Force)
SBC 1.67 (e.g., Troy & App. State, Louisiana, or Coastal)

Nope. I listed 5 champions in four years.

Which means I’m predicting in the next four years one of the current P5 champions will miss the CFP.

Because *no league* has an auto bid.

Just the top six league champions each year as determined by the committee.

The PAC tried to sneak in P5 autobids but Aresco called them on it… and won.

Yes the PAC will get the benefit of the doubt if it’s close.

Just like the AAC does now against the SBC

Great news for the AAC. Hopefully these news will help our recruiting knowing that we may finally have a real chance to make the playoff.

If the 12 team playoff was scheduled today:
1 Georgia bye
2 Michigan bye
3 TCU bye
4 USC bye
5 Clemson v 12 Tulane
6 Ohio State v 11 LSU
7 Alabama v 10 Washington
8 Tennessee v 9 psu

The pairings/rankings are subject to debate.

I could see Liberty being in the mix on a yearly basis. They will run the newest iteration of CUSA, and depending on their OOC schedule could see them having a bunch of 0-2 loss seasons.

I can see future arguments about whether an undefeated/1 loss Liberty should get the nod over a 1 loss/2 loss AAC champion.

Im glad Covington will never sniff the playoffs again.

(12-01-2022 08:55 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 08:33 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 11:39 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 09:59 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  https://sports.yahoo.com/report-college-...56849.html

Great news for the AAC

not necessarily!

It would be great news for the AAC if the AAC champ were to have an AQ (automatic) bid, but it doesn't.

Who knows which of the G5 conference champs will get the G5's playoff spot?

True, Tulane could be the champ of the AAC and the NY6 rep this year, but after UC, UCF, and UH depart, the AAC has no guarantee of being the top G5 conference year in and year out.

The Sun Belt has several schools with strong football programs. Most years, so does the MWC. Seems likely that those two conferences will be earning their fair share of CFP playoff bids.

That’s false, we are still light years ahead of the G4. Even with the defections we have sizzling new markets and decent academics. I find it a bit ridiculous they didn’t just give us the automatic bid. It will be ours every single year and it’s not even close. Strength of schedule matters big time and beating Texas State or Southern Miss or Akron is not the same as wins over Tulane or Memphis or ECU. It’s not even close and we need to start preparing ourselves to be in the playoffs every single year as a conference. Great times ahead.

Nothing was ever guaranteed.

What Milwaukee said about "no guarantees" was also true during the the NY6-bowl access years, but it was teams like UH, UCF, & UC that went and made it happen.

Now its up to Tulane and others to make it happen. Of course it can still be done, just don't expect it to be handed to the AAC.

Uhhh...Memphis?

(12-01-2022 02:00 PM)correcamino Wrote:  I could see Liberty being in the mix on a yearly basis. They will run the newest iteration of CUSA, and depending on their OOC schedule could see them having a bunch of 0-2 loss seasons.

I can see future arguments about whether an undefeated/1 loss Liberty should get the nod over a 1 loss/2 loss AAC champion.

Hugh Freeze just left Liberty.

(12-01-2022 02:01 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Im glad Covington will never sniff the playoffs again.

Aren’t you cute! A Tulsa fan talking smack! Where do you and the five other Tulsa fans like to hang out when you are dreaming up these incredible smack down replies, the Tulsa chapter of the KKK? Nice history Tulsa! Must be nice being known for a massacre of black people 70 years AFTER the civil war. Keep up the great work on race relations! Covington! LOL Just genius!