It's early. Even if this turns out to be a less than normal Richmond team, it's a solid win over a well coached team. Farmer starting to look like a basketball player. Growing pains seem to be lessoning. Fun watching depth of bench, it's the ball I prefer to watch and what I think develops a program so, biases.

Another year the fan-base should enjoy. I hope they're put our of their misery regards NCAA, either as MACC or a second bid.

What's the thought? Did those loses ruin chance at second bid?

Really solid win. Withstood that second half run by Richmond & then pulled steadily away from them. Outstanding. And 15 points from the bench even without Cochran—there have been plenty of games in recent seasons where I would have been giddy had we got that many points off the bench.

Well done, Rockets.

You have to like the bench. Farmer has greatly improved, and had another good game. AJ made some plays, and Maddox sure filled in for Cochran. Moss was solid, and JT is JT. What a treat. My guy of the game is Ray J. He is the straw that stirs the drink, as Brent would say. We are lucky to have him.

(11-30-2022 09:10 PM)Screwball Wrote:  You have to like the bench. Farmer has greatly improved, and had another good game. AJ made some plays, and Maddox sure filled in for Cochran. Moss was solid, and JT is JT. What a treat. My guy of the game is Ray J. He is the straw that stirs the drink, as Brent would say. We are lucky to have him.

I think Lorentsson has also had 2 nice back-to-back games off the bench. Solid rebounding tonight. Maybe not the true post player I hoped for, but if he can come in, hit a 3 or two, and contribute 6-7 points and 3-5 rebounds a game, he will earn his minutes.

Nine turnovers with, by my recollection, five terrible passes picked off by Richmond over a few minutes. Glad they regrouped and broke the press with good passing down the stretch.

(11-30-2022 09:25 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(11-30-2022 09:10 PM)Screwball Wrote:  You have to like the bench. Farmer has greatly improved, and had another good game. AJ made some plays, and Maddox sure filled in for Cochran. Moss was solid, and JT is JT. What a treat. My guy of the game is Ray J. He is the straw that stirs the drink, as Brent would say. We are lucky to have him.

I think Lorentsson has also had 2 nice back-to-back games off the bench. Solid rebounding tonight. Maybe not the true post player I hoped for, but if he can come in, hit a 3 or two, and contribute 6-7 points and 3-5 rebounds a game, he will earn his minutes.

Yes, no doubt. The radio guys were talking about this. If he wants more minutes, he isn't going to get them by shooting 3s. They have plenty of people who can score, so you need to rebound, set picks, and screens. If he chucks in a few 3s (and he can) is a bonus. I think he has shown to do that the last couple games. He had 3 or 4 fouls, so he was mixing it up. That's a good thing.

This is a small, but physical team, especially out front. When you have guys coming off the bench willing to play a pulling guard, eventually the other team is going to get tired of getting banged around. I think that was part of it tonight.

We played with a purpose and the intensity to match.
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Related; I didn't read the rankings but I'm guessing we didn't get a sniff after the debacle in Florida.

So Jay on the broadcast gave the player of the game to Moss. He did have a good game. I love the way he plays, and his intensity. I don't think there is any doubt (given his football offers) he is an excellent athlete - that matters - which is why he's on the floor. I think he has a huge upside (good for Toledo). They just need to get the football player out of the basketball player.

The big guy for Richmond is the type of 6’10” guy you get at the mid-major level. Would your trade Shumate for him? Obviously not. Or, would you want him out there playing for us, clogging up our free flowing offense? Not me. A truly skilled guy that size is not likely to go to a Mid Am school. We should be happy with what we have.

Loved the energy from the team and the Student Section Tonight as the Rockets played very well on both ends of the court. 5 Starters all in Double Figures and 15 points off the bench from Farmer and Lorentson. Outrebounded the taller Spiders 44-30 with our 3 starting guards combining for 14 and Lorentson with 8. One key Stat was 11 Steals which led to several fast break opportunities at the offensive end. Our Defense definitely came to play other than allowing 11 three pointers but not a lot of clean looks inside. It looks like they cleaned up whatever the issues were in Florida last week. Now two opportunities for road wins against quality Mid Major opponents in George Mason and Northern Iowa. Tonight’s game and the upcoming road games against good teams will definitely help the Rockets prepare for the MAC season.

I'm probably drinking the cool-aid again, but I don't remember a better bench in the last...how many years?

Big win!

It was nice to avenge the two losses to Richmond from the past two seasons.

Great finish to the game after they got the lead down to 6.

Richmond had only been giving up 29 points per game in the second half and the Rockets scored 50!

really solid win. we battled through that early cold streak to keep playing good basketball. we simply ran much better offense than them and I think were quicker and more physical on defense. this was without cochran. the whole bench stepped up. Lorentsson and Farmer both had a great first half, just pounding the boards and playing fast and physical. AJ didn't have his best game but he brought energy and we established a lead with his second rotation in the game.

RayJ is really good. He forced shots for most of the first half but settled into his game and took over. best player on the floor, like most nights. shumate was excellent. smooth and prolific in the mid range. crisp with his ballhandling. a regular pest around the rim on defense altering shots even if he didn't get credited with a bunch of blocks. milner couldn't get a roll all first half but stayed composed and within himself coming through with a solid second half and a 0 turnover game. maddox was efficient and competitive. set a great tone with his combination of aggressive yet controlled play.

on TV looked like a small crowd but with pretty good student turnout. richmond is down a little this year, but still a good team. george mason is big but with the way Lorentsson is playing I am feeling better about the frontcourt.

(12-01-2022 03:50 AM)pono Wrote:  really solid win. we battled through that early cold streak to keep playing good basketball. we simply ran much better offense than them and I think were quicker and more physical on defense. this was without cochran. the whole bench stepped up. Lorentsson and Farmer both had a great first half, just pounding the boards and playing fast and physical. AJ didn't have his best game but he brought energy and we established a lead with his second rotation in the game.

RayJ is really good. He forced shots for most of the first half but settled into his game and took over. best player on the floor, like most nights. shumate was excellent. smooth and prolific in the mid range. crisp with his ballhandling. a regular pest around the rim on defense altering shots even if he didn't get credited with a bunch of blocks. milner couldn't get a roll all first half but stayed composed and within himself coming through with a solid second half and a 0 turnover game. maddox was efficient and competitive. set a great tone with his combination of aggressive yet controlled play.

on TV looked like a small crowd but with pretty good student turnout. richmond is down a little this year, but still a good team. george mason is big but with the way Lorentsson is playing I am feeling better about the frontcourt.

Richmonds three losses were by small points to very established programs, Charleston, Syracuse, Wichita St. Charleston 7-1, the other two struggling but you KNOW those teams have solid players and solid coaching.

Time will tell as always. I'm sticking with my first post on this page. Keep developing that bench even if it costs an OOC game. In this case, it didn't. The goal is the MACC and that takes fresher bodies than the other guy.

(12-01-2022 06:21 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 03:50 AM)pono Wrote:  really solid win. we battled through that early cold streak to keep playing good basketball. we simply ran much better offense than them and I think were quicker and more physical on defense. this was without cochran. the whole bench stepped up. Lorentsson and Farmer both had a great first half, just pounding the boards and playing fast and physical. AJ didn't have his best game but he brought energy and we established a lead with his second rotation in the game.

RayJ is really good. He forced shots for most of the first half but settled into his game and took over. best player on the floor, like most nights. shumate was excellent. smooth and prolific in the mid range. crisp with his ballhandling. a regular pest around the rim on defense altering shots even if he didn't get credited with a bunch of blocks. milner couldn't get a roll all first half but stayed composed and within himself coming through with a solid second half and a 0 turnover game. maddox was efficient and competitive. set a great tone with his combination of aggressive yet controlled play.

on TV looked like a small crowd but with pretty good student turnout. richmond is down a little this year, but still a good team. george mason is big but with the way Lorentsson is playing I am feeling better about the frontcourt.

Richmonds three losses were by small points to very established programs, Charleston, Syracuse, Wichita St. Charleston 7-1, the other two struggling but you KNOW those teams have solid players and solid coaching.

Time will tell as always. I'm sticking with my first post on this page. Keep developing that bench even if it costs an OOC game. In this case, it didn't. The goal is the MACC and that takes fresher bodies than the other guy.

I think it is clear that TK is trying to make this bench a factor. 9 guys are getting important rotations and all the bench players are showing improvement. Lorentsson's growth is impressive. TK does not play guys who are not in the top 9 unless there are injuries. I think the only criticism might be if he doesn't find a few minutes here and there for Wilson to get some confidence in case of future injuries.

(12-01-2022 01:13 PM)pono Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 06:21 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 03:50 AM)pono Wrote:  really solid win. we battled through that early cold streak to keep playing good basketball. we simply ran much better offense than them and I think were quicker and more physical on defense. this was without cochran. the whole bench stepped up. Lorentsson and Farmer both had a great first half, just pounding the boards and playing fast and physical. AJ didn't have his best game but he brought energy and we established a lead with his second rotation in the game.

RayJ is really good. He forced shots for most of the first half but settled into his game and took over. best player on the floor, like most nights. shumate was excellent. smooth and prolific in the mid range. crisp with his ballhandling. a regular pest around the rim on defense altering shots even if he didn't get credited with a bunch of blocks. milner couldn't get a roll all first half but stayed composed and within himself coming through with a solid second half and a 0 turnover game. maddox was efficient and competitive. set a great tone with his combination of aggressive yet controlled play.

on TV looked like a small crowd but with pretty good student turnout. richmond is down a little this year, but still a good team. george mason is big but with the way Lorentsson is playing I am feeling better about the frontcourt.

Richmonds three losses were by small points to very established programs, Charleston, Syracuse, Wichita St. Charleston 7-1, the other two struggling but you KNOW those teams have solid players and solid coaching.

Time will tell as always. I'm sticking with my first post on this page. Keep developing that bench even if it costs an OOC game. In this case, it didn't. The goal is the MACC and that takes fresher bodies than the other guy.

I think it is clear that TK is trying to make this bench a factor. 9 guys are getting important rotations and all the bench players are showing improvement. Lorentsson's growth is impressive. TK does not play guys who are not in the top 9 unless there are injuries. I think the only criticism might be if he doesn't find a few minutes here and there for Wilson to get some confidence in case of future injuries.

Both guard positions seem pretty well covered. Top nine or not, everyone 6'5" and bigger needs minutes. Seeded 14-16, first round games are going to be size mis-matches probably against recently deep teams. I'd get Simmons and or Jabobi back into the rotation while we still have these experienced upper classmen, then deal with red-shirts next year.

I really enjoyed this game.

Up by 18, UR calls timeout and claws back to 6 by really turning up D pressure, UT doesn't fold, pushes back to 10 and it stays there for about 10 minutes of play, then UT breaks out with three major 3 balls!

Only 10 fouls or so called in first half total. No one-in-one opportunities. Second half both teams in double bonus for long time. UT shot okay from line. Good enough to keep the lead.

Great win without Cochran

Maddox is a nice addition.

Go Rockets!

(12-01-2022 05:51 PM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  I really enjoyed this game.

Up by 18, UR calls timeout and claws back to 6 by really turning up D pressure, UT doesn't fold, pushes back to 10 and it stays there for about 10 minutes of play, then UT breaks out with three major 3 balls!

Only 10 fouls or so called in first half total. No one-in-one opportunities. Second half both teams in double bonus for long time. UT shot okay from line. Good enough to keep the lead.

Great win without Cochran

Maddox is a nice addition.

Go Rockets!

I agree with the bold, but I think it was more us than them. We gave up how many turnovers due to bad lazy passes (during their run, which started with the press). You simply can't do that. Unacceptable. I would be curious if anyone at the game (I think someone here said they have seats not to far from our bench) could hear what Coach K was saying during that debacle?

I would have been screaming; if you are going to make a pass - make a pass - not a lazy lob that everyone in the gym can see coming, and even old decrepit fools like me could steal. Come on, this is basic fundamentals. This isn't the first time we have watched this, and it has bit us in the rear before. Needs fixed.

I'll get off my soapbox now. :-)

Richmond will be in the mix in the A10 race, anxious to see what they do against UD once the A10 starts. UT was able to hold their forward 6-7 Tyler Burton to 13 points on 3/13 from the field. With the way Lorentsson is coming on, I see less and less minutes for Edu. Farmer is excelling coming off the bench. I think this is good for him as he will be able to see the flow of the game better as a non starter. Moss had a quiet 10 points. Yes, where would UT ,at this point, be without Dennis, or how about Maddox as a backup point guard ? Wilson is lost in the mix, would love to see more minutes from him, but when do you do this ? When Cochran comes back (?), this team will be stronger with everyone coming off the bench vying for court minutes.

(12-01-2022 08:39 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Richmond will be in the mix in the A10 race, anxious to see what they do against UD once the A10 starts. UT was able to hold their forward 6-7 Tyler Burton to 13 points on 3/13 from the field. With the way Lorentsson is coming on, I see less and less minutes for Edu. Farmer is excelling coming off the bench. I think this is good for him as he will be able to see the flow of the game better as a non starter. Moss had a quiet 10 points. Yes, where would UT ,at this point, be without Dennis, or how about Maddox as a backup point guard ? Wilson is lost in the mix, would love to see more minutes from him, but when do you do this ? When Cochran comes back (?), this team will be stronger with everyone coming off the bench vying for court minutes.

I'd hope time in games. I'd imagine practices have stepped up a notch in skill level. That's certainly important for the long run.

(12-01-2022 04:39 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 01:13 PM)pono Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 06:21 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(12-01-2022 03:50 AM)pono Wrote:  really solid win. we battled through that early cold streak to keep playing good basketball. we simply ran much better offense than them and I think were quicker and more physical on defense. this was without cochran. the whole bench stepped up. Lorentsson and Farmer both had a great first half, just pounding the boards and playing fast and physical. AJ didn't have his best game but he brought energy and we established a lead with his second rotation in the game.

RayJ is really good. He forced shots for most of the first half but settled into his game and took over. best player on the floor, like most nights. shumate was excellent. smooth and prolific in the mid range. crisp with his ballhandling. a regular pest around the rim on defense altering shots even if he didn't get credited with a bunch of blocks. milner couldn't get a roll all first half but stayed composed and within himself coming through with a solid second half and a 0 turnover game. maddox was efficient and competitive. set a great tone with his combination of aggressive yet controlled play.

on TV looked like a small crowd but with pretty good student turnout. richmond is down a little this year, but still a good team. george mason is big but with the way Lorentsson is playing I am feeling better about the frontcourt.

Richmonds three losses were by small points to very established programs, Charleston, Syracuse, Wichita St. Charleston 7-1, the other two struggling but you KNOW those teams have solid players and solid coaching.

Time will tell as always. I'm sticking with my first post on this page. Keep developing that bench even if it costs an OOC game. In this case, it didn't. The goal is the MACC and that takes fresher bodies than the other guy.

I think it is clear that TK is trying to make this bench a factor. 9 guys are getting important rotations and all the bench players are showing improvement. Lorentsson's growth is impressive. TK does not play guys who are not in the top 9 unless there are injuries. I think the only criticism might be if he doesn't find a few minutes here and there for Wilson to get some confidence in case of future injuries.

Both guard positions seem pretty well covered. Top nine or not, everyone 6'5" and bigger needs minutes. Seeded 14-16, first round games are going to be size mis-matches probably against recently deep teams. I'd get Simmons and or Jabobi back into the rotation while we still have these experienced upper classmen, then deal with red-shirts next year.

Jacobi and Simmons are redshirting because they are not as good as Edu and Lorentsson. Not sure how much having them dressed would help us, especially if it cuts into minutes for AJ and the Swede who are improving with their current bench roles. Plus, I doubt that the redshirts would prefer to lose a year of college eligibility just so they could play 2 or 3 minutes here and there and maybe fill in for a couple minutes in a tournament game on the chance that we 1) get there, and 2) have major foul trouble. Both guys are really invested in the program and unlikely to transfer out. I like the idea of 3 more years of Jacobi as a bench energy guy, especially since his commitment to conditioning and strength work is so clear. Looks like the only likely transfer is Wilson and that would be our final free roster spot for a transfer or frosh frontcourt player (we are recruiting Eemeli Yalaho, a Finnish solid 6-8 forward prepping in Ohio who has some good mid majors and at least one P6 offer).