RE: ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
(11-29-2022 08:16 PM)pesik Wrote:
(11-29-2022 07:34 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:
(11-29-2022 01:20 PM)pesik Wrote:
(11-29-2022 12:36 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: There isn't even a close 2nd.
ecu fans love to take an obvious truth and then super stretch it beyond what it is... ecu is having a good year in football, ecu fans we are winning the championship and top tier of the league
your point would be strong if the aac started in 2019
houston and ecu are tied in aac regular season titles, houston has 2 tournament championship, ecu has 3 tournament championships
tulane has 2 regular season and 1 tournament champion (not far behind)
ecu is the class of the aac, but there is definitely a close 2nd if we remove recency bias... if 1 year could change the perspective its close.. if houston won the regular season, tournament ship and made the CWS, a strong case could be made houston is #1 for "this iteration of the AAC " which is longer than 3 years old.. not saying it happens
ECU has won four regionals since the last time Houston won one. They've made three tournaments since the last time Houston made one.
Tournament Appearances since ECU Joined:
ECU: 6
Houston: 3
Regional Championships since ECU joined:
ECU: 4
Houston: 0
Regional Hosts since ECU joined:
ECU: 4
Houston: 1
National seeds since ECU joined:
ECU: 1
Houston: 0
Coaches Top 25/Top 16 finishes:
ECU: 5/4
Houston: 2/0 (24 and 23)
Regular season championships since ECU joined:
ECU: 3
UH: 3
Tournament Championships since ECU joined:
ECU: 3
UH: 1
Overall record since ECU joined:
ECU: 304-151-1
Houston: 253-180
Conference record since ECU joined:
ECU: 111-60-1
Houston: 90-81
40-win seasons since ECU joined:
ECU: 5
Houston: 2
What here is close?
"since ecu joined" becuase the league only started exisitng when ecu joined... and nothing counts before????? everyone was in the league then but ecu/tulsa/tulane.. this basketball iteration of the aac started before Wichita.. and thus smu's success is counted
and specifically naming things you know you have an edge is also nutty and manipulative... something you wont see houston fans do.. actually did the opposite and noted that we had the most post season success but that memphis and uc were close
48-win seasons since The AAC started :
ECU: 0
Houston: 1
Cincinnati hasnt made the sweet 16 in basketball since the aac started, if ucf makes the sweet 16 this year they have made more sweet 16 and had more tournament wins than Cincy using that as justification that UCF wa better than cincy in the aac is nutty, and manipulative
im not discounting your post season success, that why you are #1 but you are overstating as always with ecu fans
It can count but if ECU would have been here then we would have slapped you around just like we have done since the beginning of the program. It’s not even close and just comical, thank you I needed a laugh since it’s basketball season
RE: ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
(11-30-2022 09:28 AM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote: It can count but if ECU would have been here then we would have slapped you around just like we have done since the beginning of the program. It’s not even close and just comical, thank you I needed a laugh since it’s basketball season
ecu was not good that year and houston was top 25... can you guys tune it down on the blind homerism.. the humor is the infinite amount of asterisks and made up scenarios ecu fans are doing to pretend its not close... we are literally giving you the win, that you are #1.. but for you guys that is not enough
(This post was last modified: 11-30-2022 10:26 AM by pesik.)
RE: ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
(11-30-2022 10:20 AM)pesik Wrote:
(11-30-2022 09:28 AM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote: It can count but if ECU would have been here then we would have slapped you around just like we have done since the beginning of the program. It’s not even close and just comical, thank you I needed a laugh since it’s basketball season
ecu was not good that year and houston was top 25... can you guys tune it down on the blind homerism.. the humor is the infinite amount of asterisks and made up scenarios ecu fans are doing to pretend its not close... we are literally giving you the win, that you are #1.. but for you guys that is not enough
Nobody else is on your side, it’s just you arguing this.
There are no asterisks, you can add 1 for Houston to all those categories it’s still not close. 40 wins is a very normal benchmark in baseball it’s not made up.
If you actually think that come up with your own made up scenarios and asterisks for Houston and we can compare.
RE: ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
(11-29-2022 08:16 PM)pesik Wrote:
(11-29-2022 07:34 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:
(11-29-2022 01:20 PM)pesik Wrote:
(11-29-2022 12:36 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: There isn't even a close 2nd.
ecu fans love to take an obvious truth and then super stretch it beyond what it is... ecu is having a good year in football, ecu fans we are winning the championship and top tier of the league
your point would be strong if the aac started in 2019
houston and ecu are tied in aac regular season titles, houston has 2 tournament championship, ecu has 3 tournament championships
tulane has 2 regular season and 1 tournament champion (not far behind)
ecu is the class of the aac, but there is definitely a close 2nd if we remove recency bias... if 1 year could change the perspective its close.. if houston won the regular season, tournament ship and made the CWS, a strong case could be made houston is #1 for "this iteration of the AAC " which is longer than 3 years old.. not saying it happens
ECU has won four regionals since the last time Houston won one. They've made three tournaments since the last time Houston made one.
Tournament Appearances since ECU Joined:
ECU: 6
Houston: 3
Regional Championships since ECU joined:
ECU: 4
Houston: 0
Regional Hosts since ECU joined:
ECU: 4
Houston: 1
National seeds since ECU joined:
ECU: 1
Houston: 0
Coaches Top 25/Top 16 finishes:
ECU: 5/4
Houston: 2/0 (24 and 23)
Regular season championships since ECU joined:
ECU: 3
UH: 3
Tournament Championships since ECU joined:
ECU: 3
UH: 1
Overall record since ECU joined:
ECU: 304-151-1
Houston: 253-180
Conference record since ECU joined:
ECU: 111-60-1
Houston: 90-81
40-win seasons since ECU joined:
ECU: 5
Houston: 2
What here is close?
"since ecu joined" becuase the league only started exisitng when ecu joined... and nothing counts before????? everyone was in the league then but ecu/tulsa/tulane.. this basketball iteration of the aac started before Wichita.. and thus smu's success is counted
and specifically naming things you know you have an edge is also nutty and manipulative... something you wont see houston fans do.. actually did the opposite and noted that we had the most post season success but that memphis and uc were close
48-win seasons since The AAC started :
ECU: 0
Houston: 1
Cincinnati hasnt made the sweet 16 in basketball since the aac started, if ucf makes the sweet 16 this year they have made more sweet 16 and had more tournament wins than Cincy using that as justification that UCF wa better than cincy in the aac is nutty, and manipulative
im not discounting your post season success, that why you are #1 but you are overstating as always with ecu fans
You came up with only talking about conference titles because that’s the only thing Houston is even close in since they could win the conference when ECU wasn’t in it.
RE: ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
(11-30-2022 03:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: You came up with only talking about conference titles because that’s the only thing Houston is even close in since they could win the conference when ECU wasn’t in it.
Also, Houston fans here again just means you.
what? using who won the conference as a definition to who ran the conference is manipulative???
if i wanted to be manipulative id have added aac "Head to head" record which is also even at 12 to 12.. but head to head doesnt define who ran the league, but simply the series, i wasnt picking preferable stats but noting the important ones.. you on the other hand are trying to be manipulative.. choosing preferable time frames, using stats that done matter, and then overstating any edge.. again another basketball example if any one in the aac makes the elite 8 this year, they could do
sweet 16s
ucf 1
uc 0
elite 8s
ucf 1
uc 0
none of that would be justification that tthey were better than uc in the aac tenure in basketball.. itd just but be manipulation
also wasnt talking about me, look in the original iteration thread about basketball, other houston fans were saying memphis and uc are close
(This post was last modified: 11-30-2022 04:25 PM by pesik.)
RE: ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
UAB had second highest RPI jump in all of baseball last year under Casey Dunn in his first season. From #255 to #92. I do not expect us to be top of the conference but I do see UAB being a competitive program moving forward. Coach Casey is a great one.
RE: ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
(11-30-2022 03:58 PM)Engblazr Wrote: UAB had second highest RPI jump in all of baseball last year under Casey Dunn in his first season. From #255 to #92. I do not expect us to be top of the conference but I do see UAB being a competitive program moving forward. Coach Casey is a great one.
Probably going to have to shut your program down after your first trip to Gvegas, we going to sweep the leg.
ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
(11-30-2022 03:24 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:
(11-30-2022 10:20 AM)pesik Wrote:
(11-30-2022 09:28 AM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote: It can count but if ECU would have been here then we would have slapped you around just like we have done since the beginning of the program. It’s not even close and just comical, thank you I needed a laugh since it’s basketball season
ecu was not good that year and houston was top 25... can you guys tune it down on the blind homerism.. the humor is the infinite amount of asterisks and made up scenarios ecu fans are doing to pretend its not close... we are literally giving you the win, that you are #1.. but for you guys that is not enough
Nobody else is on your side, it’s just you arguing this.
There are no asterisks, you can add 1 for Houston to all those categories it’s still not close. 40 wins is a very normal benchmark in baseball it’s not made up.
If you actually think that come up with your own made up scenarios and asterisks for Houston and we can compare.
*Houston* will finish the previous iteration of CUSA as the *city* whose baseball teams were most dominant.
*(ok yes mostly Rice, but UH was often a solid 2nd, Batman and Robin made for quite the dynamic duo back in the day)
RE: ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
(11-30-2022 03:51 PM)pesik Wrote:
(11-30-2022 03:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: You came up with only talking about conference titles because that’s the only thing Houston is even close in since they could win the conference when ECU wasn’t in it.
Also, Houston fans here again just means you.
what? using who won the conference as a definition to who ran the conference is manipulative???
if i wanted to be manipulative id have added aac "Head to head" record which is also even at 12 to 12.. but head to head doesnt define who ran the league, but simply the series, i wasnt picking preferable stats but noting the important ones.. you on the other hand are trying to be manipulative.. choosing preferable time frames, using stats that done matter, and then overstating any edge.. again another basketball example if any one in the aac makes the elite 8 this year, they could do
sweet 16s
ucf 1
uc 0
elite 8s
ucf 1
uc 0
none of that would be justification that tthey were better than uc in the aac tenure in basketball.. itd just but be manipulation
also wasnt talking about me, look in the original iteration thread about basketball, other houston fans were saying memphis and uc are close
Conference championships are the only important stats? You're dense. Show the measures of program success that Houston is even tied at. It's not like ECU had one good run. It's been every year for the past four and Houston hasn't done ****. If COVID hadn't happened it'd look even worse.
Making the tournament, hosting, and winning in the tournament is the most important thing and it's not close. Note overall record and conference records, also not close.
For context: ECU has won as many regionals in the AAC as Houston has since 1968. ECU has made the tournament as many times as Houston has since 2004. What has Houston done better than or as well as ECU?
(This post was last modified: 11-30-2022 06:19 PM by DowdyPirate.)
RE: ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
(11-30-2022 06:05 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:
(11-30-2022 03:51 PM)pesik Wrote:
(11-30-2022 03:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: You came up with only talking about conference titles because that’s the only thing Houston is even close in since they could win the conference when ECU wasn’t in it.
Also, Houston fans here again just means you.
what? using who won the conference as a definition to who ran the conference is manipulative???
if i wanted to be manipulative id have added aac "Head to head" record which is also even at 12 to 12.. but head to head doesnt define who ran the league, but simply the series, i wasnt picking preferable stats but noting the important ones.. you on the other hand are trying to be manipulative.. choosing preferable time frames, using stats that done matter, and then overstating any edge.. again another basketball example if any one in the aac makes the elite 8 this year, they could do
sweet 16s
ucf 1
uc 0
elite 8s
ucf 1
uc 0
none of that would be justification that tthey were better than uc in the aac tenure in basketball.. itd just but be manipulation
also wasnt talking about me, look in the original iteration thread about basketball, other houston fans were saying memphis and uc are close
Conference championships are the only important stats? You're dense. Show the measures of program success that Houston is even tied at. It's not like ECU had one good run. It's been every year for the past four and Houston hasn't done ****. If COVID hadn't happened it'd look even worse.
Making the tournament, hosting, and winning in the tournament is the most important thing and it's not close. Note overall record and conference records, also not close.
For context: ECU has won as many regionals in the AAC as Houston has since 1968. ECU has made the tournament as many times as Houston has since 2004. What has Houston done better than or as well as ECU?
when did i say "only"?? in numerous posts ive noted that ecu post season success gives them the edge of #1
.. im saying you are overstating it (simply becuase you know you have an edge)
again Cincinnati has done absolutely nothing in basketball postseason, to deny their dominance in this league is preposterous... uconn won a title in the aac .. no rational person would say uconn was a better program than UC in the aac in basketball...
and secondly you are acting like regionals is the world series... its regionals ... no one remembers (or cares) who made regionals but the fans of that team...the most important thing is making the CWS not regionals.. im not saying its not important but its not remotely close to what you are making it out to be ..
honest question a team finishes 4th in the aac 3 years in a row, makes it past regionals all 3 of those years but eliminated right after (never makes the cws).... or a team that won 3 straight league championship, 3 straight tournament championships... but eliminated in regionals those 3 years.. who was the top team in the league...
you KNOW the answer is the 2nd team... im so tired of ecu overhyping.. why are you guys like this in everything!!!!
(This post was last modified: 11-30-2022 06:53 PM by pesik.)
RE: ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
You said you noted the important things, you only talked about conference championships.
I don't think Cincinnati has dominated the AAC in basketball, they're in the upper echelon, but they haven't matched the success Houston has and anyone who would say they are close is wrong....This is a terrible argument, its not like ECU caught lightning in a bottle one year and had a postseason run that I'm using as justification. They are consistently in the best 16 teams in the country every year.
If nobody remembers who was in the supers three years in a row, there's definitely nobody remembering the team that has had their ass at home for four seasons.
ECU is the only team in the AAC to have won 3 straight regular season championships (nobody has won the tournament 3 in a row), and they also won regionals 3 years in a row. So....
(This post was last modified: 11-30-2022 07:36 PM by DowdyPirate.)
RE: ECU will finish this iteration of the AAC as the conference’s top baseball program
ECU has certainly been the standard in baseball for the AAC. Something to shoot for.
D1 Baseball recently released their list of Top 100 College Baseball programs. Here's where the future AAC teams landed on the list. Listed in order and the number in parenthesis is the change since they last did this in 2019.
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