(11-27-2022 06:30 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Next year is gonna be awesome

Will be really interesting to see who JMU hires when your coach bolts for Liberty. (joking... kinda)


As for App, my understanding is they already applied for a bowl waiver and were declined so they fall into the group of 5-7's.

(11-27-2022 10:43 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  I really hate seeing the “the QB doesn’t play defense” argument. Obviously going 3 and out consistently puts extra pressure on a defense. McCall ran the offense efficiently, which gave his defense a chance to catch their breath and make adjustments. I’m not saying he would have helped them win, but I would bet my house it’s a closer game with a guy like him running the offense.

McCall played offense against ODU and they still got blown out. That's 2 conference losses by 4+ TDs in the last 5 games.

(11-28-2022 07:48 AM)Pike51 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 06:30 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Next year is gonna be awesome

Will be really interesting to see who JMU hires when your coach bolts for Liberty. (joking... kinda)


As for App, my understanding is they already applied for a bowl waiver and were declined so they fall into the group of 5-7's.

Correct. From what I'm hearing the two slots will be filled by 5-7 teams and no waivers granted. Looks like Rice and UNLV are in.

(11-28-2022 09:04 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 07:48 AM)Pike51 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 06:30 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Next year is gonna be awesome

Will be really interesting to see who JMU hires when your coach bolts for Liberty. (joking... kinda)


As for App, my understanding is they already applied for a bowl waiver and were declined so they fall into the group of 5-7's.

Correct. From what I'm hearing the two slots will be filled by 5-7 teams and no waivers granted. Looks like Rice and UNLV are in.

What are your thoughts, Jay, on where UL and the rest of the SBC teams land, bowl-wise? Have you heard anything credible about that?

(11-28-2022 09:11 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:04 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 07:48 AM)Pike51 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 06:30 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Next year is gonna be awesome

Will be really interesting to see who JMU hires when your coach bolts for Liberty. (joking... kinda)


As for App, my understanding is they already applied for a bowl waiver and were declined so they fall into the group of 5-7's.

Correct. From what I'm hearing the two slots will be filled by 5-7 teams and no waivers granted. Looks like Rice and UNLV are in.

What are your thoughts, Jay, on where UL and the rest of the SBC teams land, bowl-wise? Have you heard anything credible about that?

Gosh. With ESPN involved now, there are about a dozen bowls in play. SBC schools are no longer locked in to the contracts they have. ESPN has four of the first six picks including the first one.

I do agree that Troy is probably headed to New Orleans BUT, with the NO Bowl on a Wednesday night, they may want someone more geographically suitable like South Alabama.

Shreveport wants the Cajuns (and I think vice versa). But nothing is decided right now as far as I know.

I'd rather Troy go to the Independence Bowl.

I'm happy to be in any bowl, but it would obviously be nice to be in something different than New Orleans or Mobile. 7 of the 8 bowls Troy has been in have been in those two places.

(11-28-2022 09:24 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:11 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:04 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 07:48 AM)Pike51 Wrote:  As for App, my understanding is they already applied for a bowl waiver and were declined so they fall into the group of 5-7's.

Correct. From what I'm hearing the two slots will be filled by 5-7 teams and no waivers granted. Looks like Rice and UNLV are in.

What are your thoughts, Jay, on where UL and the rest of the SBC teams land, bowl-wise? Have you heard anything credible about that?

Gosh. With ESPN involved now, there are about a dozen bowls in play. SBC schools are no longer locked in to the contracts they have. ESPN has four of the first six picks including the first one.

I do agree that Troy is probably headed to New Orleans BUT, with the NO Bowl on a Wednesday night, they may want someone more geographically suitable like South Alabama.

Shreveport wants the Cajuns (and I think vice versa). But nothing is decided right now as far as I know.

That’s my hope, and with such an easy drive I think we’d have a pretty good attendance if it’s there. I don’t think we’ve ever played in that bowl, so that’d be nice too.

(11-28-2022 09:28 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I'd rather Troy go to the Independence Bowl.

Unfortunately, bowls are decided by ticket sales and hotel revenue. It was never about matchups, which is unfortunate. That said, Troy vs UTSA in New Orleans would be a great game.

Three of the four adds made a bowl (or would have if they could).

The idea of Coastal players "giving up" is curious. Everyone has transfers nowadays, but Coastal and USA are ridiculous Transfer U's. I have less preference for transfers because I want to know why they couldn't man-up and stick to their commitment. There are exceptions such as coaching changes, but most of the time it has to do with a temper tantrum based on a perceived slight of not being valued. They're essential in a transition period and USA has more of an excuse for having so many, but Coastal always has a ton of transfers. Maybe that matches the community of Myrtle Beach who are also transfers/transplants.

(11-28-2022 07:48 AM)Pike51 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 06:30 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Next year is gonna be awesome

Will be really interesting to see who JMU hires when your coach bolts for Liberty. (joking... kinda)


As for App, my understanding is they already applied for a bowl waiver and were declined so they fall into the group of 5-7's.

Holy **** can you imagine?

(11-27-2022 12:32 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 12:22 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 11:44 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  3. I thought CCU played as uninspired as any team I've seen in a while. And, while the absence of McCall really hurt, he doesn't play defense. I don't think CCU cared much about this game. They just had no fight in them...at all. I also think JMU wins even if McCall is healthy and the division was on the line. The Dukes are just better, in my opinion.

And, if there are folks who insist McCall would have made that big a difference, then it means Jamey Chadwell should not be considered for a P5 job.

The most disappointing thing. For anybody that knows how that looks it was pretty apparent the team was unmotivated. We still had a lot to play for but our coaches didn't get the team ready. That leaves a sour taste more than anything going into the CCG.

Sure, a McCall led offense would've probably scored more than 7 points but with that effort, Coastal would've still loss convincingly. JMU is a good team, that was ready, and had something to prove on Saturday. Without matched intensity, that game wasn't going to be in Coastal's favor from the onset.

After Coastal got down a little they threw the towel. Coaches did as well. I really don't like that. If that's going to be a thing, I don't even want Chadwell and staff leading our program. They can certainly take that somewhere else.

I get what you are saying and somewhat agree, But I do think we basically started sitting starters either that were a little banged up or to prevent them from getting hurt. JMU was playing physical as it was their last game. I think we realized that a win but losing key starters would be more detrimental - or even worse losing key guys and still losing in a closer game. For example, I don't think Jerrod Clark played at all the second half. He was getting double teamed the whole time and so I think they decided it wasn't worth guys like him getting hurt.

Was it the right or wrong decision? I guess we'll see next week.

I think this has been the case for weeks, since McCall went out. We’ve been told all the RBs… Bennett, Bedgood, White are healthy and ready. Then they get 2 carries and disappear. Couple key D guys too, you mention Clark, but the LBs have been dinged, and there’s been heavy rotation into the 2-deep plus, where you normally wouldn’t see it.

Not an excuse for JMU… just truth. I truly think we are trying to patchwork this together in hopes we can get 75% somewhat healthy for the CG. Worst I’ve seen a Coastal team beat up ever.

If McCall isn’t ready, not sure it matters. Someone above, or in another thread maybe, hung that on JC… if he’s that dependent on McCall. Just not true. When anyone goes to QB2 (aside from those that just fail completely), they try to succeed with game management and use their other strengths. Welp, that isn’t working for us because all our other strengths are out too. Is what it is.

(11-28-2022 06:52 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 12:32 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 12:22 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 11:44 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  3. I thought CCU played as uninspired as any team I've seen in a while. And, while the absence of McCall really hurt, he doesn't play defense. I don't think CCU cared much about this game. They just had no fight in them...at all. I also think JMU wins even if McCall is healthy and the division was on the line. The Dukes are just better, in my opinion.

And, if there are folks who insist McCall would have made that big a difference, then it means Jamey Chadwell should not be considered for a P5 job.

The most disappointing thing. For anybody that knows how that looks it was pretty apparent the team was unmotivated. We still had a lot to play for but our coaches didn't get the team ready. That leaves a sour taste more than anything going into the CCG.

Sure, a McCall led offense would've probably scored more than 7 points but with that effort, Coastal would've still loss convincingly. JMU is a good team, that was ready, and had something to prove on Saturday. Without matched intensity, that game wasn't going to be in Coastal's favor from the onset.

After Coastal got down a little they threw the towel. Coaches did as well. I really don't like that. If that's going to be a thing, I don't even want Chadwell and staff leading our program. They can certainly take that somewhere else.

I get what you are saying and somewhat agree, But I do think we basically started sitting starters either that were a little banged up or to prevent them from getting hurt. JMU was playing physical as it was their last game. I think we realized that a win but losing key starters would be more detrimental - or even worse losing key guys and still losing in a closer game. For example, I don't think Jerrod Clark played at all the second half. He was getting double teamed the whole time and so I think they decided it wasn't worth guys like him getting hurt.

Was it the right or wrong decision? I guess we'll see next week.

I think this has been the case for weeks, since McCall went out. We’ve been told all the RBs… Bennett, Bedgood, White are healthy and ready. Then they get 2 carries and disappear. Couple key D guys too, you mention Clark, but the LBs have been dinged, and there’s been heavy rotation into the 2-deep plus, where you normally wouldn’t see it.

Not an excuse for JMU… just truth. I truly think we are trying to patchwork this together in hopes we can get 75% somewhat healthy for the CG. Worst I’ve seen a Coastal team beat up ever.

If McCall isn’t ready, not sure it matters. Someone above, or in another thread maybe, hung that on JC… if he’s that dependent on McCall. Just not true. When anyone goes to QB2 (aside from those that just fail completely), they try to succeed with game management and use their other strengths. Welp, that isn’t working for us because all our other strengths are out too. Is what it is.

I would be livid if the Louisiana staff did this if we were in Coastal’s position. This doesn’t upset yalls fan base?

(11-28-2022 08:56 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 06:52 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 12:32 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  I get what you are saying and somewhat agree, But I do think we basically started sitting starters either that were a little banged up or to prevent them from getting hurt. JMU was playing physical as it was their last game. I think we realized that a win but losing key starters would be more detrimental - or even worse losing key guys and still losing in a closer game. For example, I don't think Jerrod Clark played at all the second half. He was getting double teamed the whole time and so I think they decided it wasn't worth guys like him getting hurt.

Was it the right or wrong decision? I guess we'll see next week.

I think this has been the case for weeks, since McCall went out. We’ve been told all the RBs… Bennett, Bedgood, White are healthy and ready. Then they get 2 carries and disappear. Couple key D guys too, you mention Clark, but the LBs have been dinged, and there’s been heavy rotation into the 2-deep plus, where you normally wouldn’t see it.

Not an excuse for JMU… just truth. I truly think we are trying to patchwork this together in hopes we can get 75% somewhat healthy for the CG. Worst I’ve seen a Coastal team beat up ever.

If McCall isn’t ready, not sure it matters. Someone above, or in another thread maybe, hung that on JC… if he’s that dependent on McCall. Just not true. When anyone goes to QB2 (aside from those that just fail completely), they try to succeed with game management and use their other strengths. Welp, that isn’t working for us because all our other strengths are out too. Is what it is.

I would be livid if the Louisiana staff did this if we were in Coastal’s position. This doesn’t upset yalls fan base?

As a fan, player, AD, or university president, I’d want to punch my HC in the face if he told me a game didn’t matter and we should just play for next week as we sat at 10-1 and ranked in the Top 25.

Now I’m interested in knowing the pay bonus Chadwell gets for winning a conference title vs. the one he gets for 12 wins vs. the one he gets for finishing ranked. Maybe he just said, “Screw all y’all. I’m taking my best shot at getting paid.”

I’m hoping for Troy in Nola against UTSA…. It’s about the only bowl that fits my schedule right now. Nola knows Troy travels well

Bham is my other option I’d love.

(11-28-2022 07:48 AM)Pike51 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 06:30 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Next year is gonna be awesome

Will be really interesting to see who JMU hires when your coach bolts for Liberty. (joking... kinda)


As for App, my understanding is they already applied for a bowl waiver and were declined so they fall into the group of 5-7's.

Hope you’re not holding your breath, or have a wager riding on where Cignetti coaches in 2023. If your bet is Liberty you’ve already lost your money.

(11-28-2022 06:52 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 12:32 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 12:22 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 11:44 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  3. I thought CCU played as uninspired as any team I've seen in a while. And, while the absence of McCall really hurt, he doesn't play defense. I don't think CCU cared much about this game. They just had no fight in them...at all. I also think JMU wins even if McCall is healthy and the division was on the line. The Dukes are just better, in my opinion.

And, if there are folks who insist McCall would have made that big a difference, then it means Jamey Chadwell should not be considered for a P5 job.

The most disappointing thing. For anybody that knows how that looks it was pretty apparent the team was unmotivated. We still had a lot to play for but our coaches didn't get the team ready. That leaves a sour taste more than anything going into the CCG.

Sure, a McCall led offense would've probably scored more than 7 points but with that effort, Coastal would've still loss convincingly. JMU is a good team, that was ready, and had something to prove on Saturday. Without matched intensity, that game wasn't going to be in Coastal's favor from the onset.

After Coastal got down a little they threw the towel. Coaches did as well. I really don't like that. If that's going to be a thing, I don't even want Chadwell and staff leading our program. They can certainly take that somewhere else.

I get what you are saying and somewhat agree, But I do think we basically started sitting starters either that were a little banged up or to prevent them from getting hurt. JMU was playing physical as it was their last game. I think we realized that a win but losing key starters would be more detrimental - or even worse losing key guys and still losing in a closer game. For example, I don't think Jerrod Clark played at all the second half. He was getting double teamed the whole time and so I think they decided it wasn't worth guys like him getting hurt.

Was it the right or wrong decision? I guess we'll see next week.

I think this has been the case for weeks, since McCall went out. We’ve been told all the RBs… Bennett, Bedgood, White are healthy and ready. Then they get 2 carries and disappear. Couple key D guys too, you mention Clark, but the LBs have been dinged, and there’s been heavy rotation into the 2-deep plus, where you normally wouldn’t see it.

Not an excuse for JMU… just truth. I truly think we are trying to patchwork this together in hopes we can get 75% somewhat healthy for the CG. Worst I’ve seen a Coastal team beat up ever.

If McCall isn’t ready, not sure it matters. Someone above, or in another thread maybe, hung that on JC… if he’s that dependent on McCall. Just not true. When anyone goes to QB2 (aside from those that just fail completely), they try to succeed with game management and use their other strengths. Welp, that isn’t working for us because all our other strengths are out too. Is what it is.

This is the biggest bunch of malarkey I’ve read since Baghdad Bob was spewing out press releases for Sadam Hussein.

CC tried their best to win the game against JMU, just as CC tried to win against ODU (and on CC’s home field with Chadwell no less).

Face it. Own it. CC was exposed. Resting or saving something for Troy isn’t going to do the teal chickens any good in the championship game (which in a normal year CC wouldn’t be playing in).

What do you truly want out of all this? What's the end goal? You and other JMU fans are acting as if Coastal personally made your University ineligible.

James Madison is piped up towards the wrong crowd.
I've linked the NCAA contact page:

https://www.ncaa.com/contact-us#:~:text=...legesports

Yea,
Take your 2nd place participation trophy and 47-7 embarrassment and be on with it.

We’ll be here in 9 months, hope the ballchinians haven’t been relegated by then.

Big south, perhaps?

(11-28-2022 09:28 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I'd rather Troy go to the Independence Bowl.

I'm happy to be in any bowl, but it would obviously be nice to be in something different than New Orleans or Mobile. 7 of the 8 bowls Troy has been in have been in those two places.

The Silicon Valley Bowl was a good trip. San Francisco in '04 was cool. I wouldn't recommend it today. I remember the cold rain during the game. I remember the San Jose St. stadium being made of wood and it was slippery as heck getting up and down. The concessions were on ground level and you had to go up slippery stairs and then go down slippery stairs to your seats. What a dump.