(11-27-2022 09:02 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  Notre Dame 5-0 vs the ACC, 3-4 against everyone else. Let that sink in.

Its 29-0 in the regular season the past five years.

(11-29-2022 06:31 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 09:02 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  Notre Dame 5-0 vs the ACC, 3-4 against everyone else. Let that sink in.

Its 29-0 in the regular season the past five years.

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8-5 since taking over ...

THAT DON’T IMPRESS ME MUCH

(11-29-2022 06:31 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 09:02 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  Notre Dame 5-0 vs the ACC, 3-4 against everyone else. Let that sink in.

Its 29-0 in the regular season the past five years.

Not choking to unranked teams is not something to crow about. In the last 6 years ND has only played 7 ranked ACC schools.

You lost to 13th ranked Miami in 17, lost to 3rd ranked Clemson in the ACC title game in 20. You did beat 15th ranked Syracuse in 18, 18th ranked UNC in 20, and 23rd ranked NC State in 17. But Clemson cleaned your clock twice in that span when it really mattered - for the ACC Title and in 2018 in the playoff.

For the most part you are crowing about the equivalent of kicking a midget's butt in a bar fight. As you play 4/5/6 games a year in the ACC you never really have to worry about getting three top 15 teams - teams with near equal talent or better talent because there are only 5-6 of the 14 schools that can actually get that high and unusually it's no more than two at one time, if not one.

You always have top 15 talent at ND. You are supposed to win every game except when you happen to be playing someone with top 10 talent.

I think there are just 4 programs who consistently recruit at the top 5 level -

Bama, Ohio State, Georgia, and Michigan has returned to this level.

About 8 or so schools are at the next level - the 5-10 level and can occasionally pop into the top 5 or fall into the just the top 15 - Clemson, Texas, ND, Florida, TAMU, USC, LSU, USC, and Oklahoma. Some consistently do more with the talent they get. Some almost always seem to do less.

Penn State, Florida State, and Oregon float between 12-20.

All things being equal the top 4 should not lose to anyone except each other. The next batch should only lose to each other and the top 4. Below these 16 or so an innovative or dynamic coach, a future NFL HOF QB or a run of good luck and no injuries can propel those between 17 and about 32 to compete in a single game, but really can't win out over a season's worth of games. This is where Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Miami, Wisconsin, UCLA, Utah, Washington, UNC, NC State, Pitt, Michigan State, VT, TCU, Baylor, Ok State, Wake Forest, Kentucky, etc., find themselves now - the middle of the P-5, but outside the small group of real movers and shakers.

Big conferences and the end of being able to win a weak division is going to make life harder for these in the middle - even those stuck in a currently near-unwinnable division like Auburn, Ole Miss, NC State, Michigan State, and Wake face the prospect of three to four games annually where they are a decided underdog with no room for error.

(11-29-2022 07:26 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 06:31 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 09:02 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  Notre Dame 5-0 vs the ACC, 3-4 against everyone else. Let that sink in.

Its 29-0 in the regular season the past five years.

Not choking to unranked teams is not something to crow about. In the last 6 years ND has only played 7 ranked ACC schools.

You lost to 13th ranked Miami in 17, lost to 3rd ranked Clemson in the ACC title game in 20. You did beat 15th ranked Syracuse in 18, 18th ranked UNC in 20, and 23rd ranked NC State in 17. But Clemson cleaned your clock twice in that span when it really mattered - for the ACC Title and in 2018 in the playoff.

For the most part you are crowing about the equivalent of kicking a midget's butt in a bar fight. As you play 4/5/6 games a year in the ACC you never really have to worry about getting three top 15 teams - teams with near equal talent or better talent because there are only 5-6 of the 14 schools that can actually get that high and unusually it's no more than two at one time, if not one.

You always have top 15 talent at ND. You are supposed to win every game except when you happen to be playing someone with top 10 talent.

Its tough to try to spin 0-29, but you did guys did not disappoint.

I didn't "gloat". I posted one line on a subject (ND v. ACC) that I didn't even bring up. I just expanded on it.

(Green, I am not impressed that "Miami isn't back" yet again)

There is no spin regarding the record. 16 of the 29 teams you played finished the year without winning records. That means over half the games you played were against teams that did not have a winning record the year you played them.

Of the 13 that did have a winning record, just 5 finished the year ranked. That's just 17%. Two of those wins are over UNC teams that finished just inside the top 25.

You have the glory of -

3 wins over bad VT teams.
3 wins over bad FSU squads.
3 wins over medicore UNC squads
3 wins over Syracuse, two of them over BAAD Syracuse teams
3 wins over bad BC teams
2 wins over bad UVa squads
2 wins over Duke
2 wins over a collapsed Louisville
2 wins over a horrible GT program
2 wins over Pitt
2 wins over excellent Clemson teams
1 win over a pre-Hartman Wake Forest team

The luck of the draw caused you to miss Pitt, WF, and NC State squads that might have given you an actual game.

You also have the built in advantage of homes games up in the Arctic confines of Lake Michigan for games after mid-October. The first cold and wet northern slop fest is usually a big egg all of the Southern schools. That was one of Maryland's big advantages - November in DC.