(11-23-2022 06:08 AM)otown Wrote: After last night's rankings........ I can see a lot of crow being eaten on this thread. Basically last night prooved my point.
We won't see that.
The good news is that they have disappeared. As much as I would relish seeing them admit that P6 is real, it probably is better overall that they're gone and we don't have to see the rest of their ridiculousness.
Well, they have an active thread on their forum discussing how they might take the ABC slot from the AAC during championship game weekend next year.......soooo......
Edited to add: ha ha ha ha ha!!! I just went and read that. I THOUGHT you were referring the one from 29 Oct-9November about taking our Friday nights and our ABC! HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Same poster started both - he's usually one of the reasonable ones. Into the holiday cheer already, I guess.
Anyway, that was my point in post #33.
They're doing good. TV contract wise they're doing better than CUSA.
But they appear incapable of even comprehending just how much better we have it. The thread you mention, the other one where they're all pleased as punch that ESPN sublicensed their games to NFLN so people can not watch on a different channel.
Disney this year will have the AAC on linear MORE than the contractual 40...On ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 MORE than the contractual 20...the ABC games this year have included two stayers and one leaver...ESPN games this year have been one stayer OOC, three stayer vs stayer, three stayer vs leaver, and one leaver vs leaver...Disney isn't going to complain about UAB or UTSA....
And one of them will reply to these facts with something about Charlotte
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As a Sun Belt poster I could certainly see justification for an AAC P6, yet assume that will fade with the lose of Cincy, UCF and Houston.
In attempt to put my biased aside, I’m thinking the AAC and SBC are looking pretty even this year. With all the tensions between the two conferences, I’d love to see some AAC Vs SBC bowl game match ups. Specifically ECU vs APPY, Tulane vs any Western team really, maybe So Miss vs Memphis or even a Marshall vs UCF/Cincy. I could see a lot of fun match ups and would either shut AAC or SBC fans up lol.
(11-24-2022 12:17 AM)Herdforlife Wrote: As a Sun Belt poster I could certainly see justification for an AAC P6, yet assume that will fade with the lose of Cincy, UCF and Houston.
In attempt to put my biased aside, I’m thinking the AAC and SBC are looking pretty even this year. With all the tensions between the two conferences, I’d love to see some AAC Vs SBC bowl game match ups. Specifically ECU vs APPY, Tulane vs any Western team really, maybe So Miss vs Memphis or even a Marshall vs UCF/Cincy. I could see a lot of fun match ups and would either shut AAC or SBC fans up lol.
Pretty even? We have three ranked teams to your none. We have the markets and the academics as well. It’s not even close and you know it. Nothing personal but we don’t want to play any SBC schools in any bowls either. It just makes us look weak playing inferior programs. My hope is we only play schools more on our level going forward and that includes the regular season as well. Most sports fans associate the AAC with the ACC, and Big 12 than they do with any of the G4. I don’t know why we have to keep having these debates.
Would Tulane be anywhere near lets say a 1 loss Coastal without playing UH, UC, SMU and UCF this year. Tulane doesnt even have regular games with SMU when the stupid let all the dumb new fail teams play in TX schedule starts.
Not even close.
Lets assume Tulane had losses to Southern Miss and UAB or UTSA (good teams) and its best win was the K State win. They wouldnt sniff the CFP spot over a 1 loss Coastal or App State.
(11-14-2022 10:52 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: AAC has established themselves as the 6th Power Conference with the best G5 tv deal.
The new CFP structure makes the path so much easier for the AAC.
How do you figure? The SBC and Liberty have clearly shown they can reach the top 25. Aside from UTSA the CUSA6 range from horrid to middling at best. The AAC is going to take a massive SOS hit next season.
The Human Polls care more about brands. AAC isn't barren, you still have SMU flagship with an exciting offense with Rhett Lashlee. When Memphis is good they grab attention. It seems like Tulane is an remerging brand.
If Tanner Mordecai returns next season, SMU should be a preseason Top 25 in this AAC rebuilding year.
TV Exposure is a big deal too. Aresco getting the most exposure puts the teams in front of the voter's eyes more often than the Sunbelt.
Coastal has been on national TV 4 weeks in a row. The SBC's better teams will get exposure lol. The terrible ODU loss is why we are where we are. Nothing else.
I suspect that also the CFPC is also punishing CCU for their QB being injured,(like they have openly stated they have or Tenn.)and the being a two score dog JMU doesn't help either. CCU missed an opportunity last week with UVA.
(11-24-2022 10:16 AM)panicstricken Wrote: for ***** and giggles
Would Tulane be anywhere near lets say a 1 loss Coastal without playing UH, UC, SMU and UCF this year. Tulane doesnt even have regular games with SMU when the stupid let all the dumb new fail teams play in TX schedule starts.
Not even close.
Lets assume Tulane had losses to Southern Miss and UAB or UTSA (good teams) and its best win was the K State win. They wouldnt sniff the CFP spot over a 1 loss Coastal or App State.
Well, as you say the K-State win is why Tulane is the top AAC team for the CFP. Then Houston is up there, but take that away and leave the very comparably ranked SMU, ECU, and Memphis wins?
They're still there, and they're still ahead of Coastal and the Chants' #129 SoS (per ESPN FPI).
I think you're over-reacting, just like when Will Worth made the line to gain, then forward progress stopped, and THEN the ball came loose.
(11-24-2022 12:17 AM)Herdforlife Wrote: As a Sun Belt poster I could certainly see justification for an AAC P6, yet assume that will fade with the lose of Cincy, UCF and Houston.
In attempt to put my biased aside, I’m thinking the AAC and SBC are looking pretty even this year. With all the tensions between the two conferences, I’d love to see some AAC Vs SBC bowl game match ups. Specifically ECU vs APPY, Tulane vs any Western team really, maybe So Miss vs Memphis or even a Marshall vs UCF/Cincy. I could see a lot of fun match ups and would either shut AAC or SBC fans up lol.
Pretty even? We have three ranked teams to your none. We have the markets and the academics as well. It’s not even close and you know it. Nothing personal but we don’t want to play any SBC schools in any bowls either. It just makes us look weak playing inferior programs. My hope is we only play schools more on our level going forward and that includes the regular season as well. Most sports fans associate the AAC with the ACC, and Big 12 than they do with any of the G4. I don’t know why we have to keep having these debates.
You are ranked because the prestige Cincy, Houston and UCF has built for the conference over a long period of time. Good schools, but that disappears soon enough. You have Markets you don’t own, in fact I’d be willing to say Appy St has a larger portion of the Charlotte market than Charlotte. You win on Academics
. Not saying the AAC is a bad conference, there’s a lot of quality schools whom I enjoy watching, but no need to act like you’re superior, Tulane played one Sun Belt school and lost. I’m sure there’d be some exciting games to be played between the AAC and SBC.
Without a huge influx of media exposure and viewership the SBC has no chance of closing the gap and staying close. Just isn't going to happen. There may be years they are stronger on the field but if no one is watching it isn't happening and doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things long term. The same way we aren't catching the lowest P5 anytime soon or probably ever.
(11-24-2022 02:15 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote: Without a huge influx of media exposure and viewership the SBC has no chance of closing the gap and staying close. Just isn't going to happen. There may be years they are stronger on the field but if no one is watching it isn't happening and doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things long term. The same way we aren't catching the lowest P5 anytime soon or probably ever.
Unfortunately I don’t think it’s about closing a gap. AAC and SBC are second tier football and the additions made bring the conferences on a move even playing field. ECU may be one of the biggest brands in the group of 5, but look around you, the viewership isn’t what you think.. you want to be in a superior conference? They you’re going to need an ACC invite.
(11-24-2022 12:17 AM)Herdforlife Wrote: As a Sun Belt poster I could certainly see justification for an AAC P6, yet assume that will fade with the lose of Cincy, UCF and Houston.
In attempt to put my biased aside, I’m thinking the AAC and SBC are looking pretty even this year. With all the tensions between the two conferences, I’d love to see some AAC Vs SBC bowl game match ups. Specifically ECU vs APPY, Tulane vs any Western team really, maybe So Miss vs Memphis or even a Marshall vs UCF/Cincy. I could see a lot of fun match ups and would either shut AAC or SBC fans up lol.
Pretty even? We have three ranked teams to your none. We have the markets and the academics as well. It’s not even close and you know it. Nothing personal but we don’t want to play any SBC schools in any bowls either. It just makes us look weak playing inferior programs. My hope is we only play schools more on our level going forward and that includes the regular season as well. Most sports fans associate the AAC with the ACC, and Big 12 than they do with any of the G4. I don’t know why we have to keep having these debates.
You are ranked because the prestige Cincy, Houston and UCF has built for the conference over a long period of time. Good schools, but that disappears soon enough. You have Markets you don’t own, in fact I’d be willing to say Appy St has a larger portion of the Charlotte market than Charlotte. You win on Academics
. Not saying the AAC is a bad conference, there’s a lot of quality schools whom I enjoy watching, but no need to act like you’re superior, Tulane played one Sun Belt school and lost. I’m sure there’d be some exciting games to be played between the AAC and SBC.
I think you're right about UNCC. Driving around NC I have rarely seen any 49er stickers, license plates, etc. App on the other hand you see everywhere. I saw a bunch of App fans at the state fair in Oct. for example. Saw absolutely zero 49er's. Not to say they were completely absent, I just didn't see any.
I wasn't a fan of adding UNCC at all, would've much rather gotten App. But now that they're here I hope they get good in a hurry since we don't need added body bag games on the schedule. Kind of the way we were looked at during Moe's 3-9 years and Houston's first couple of years. We were hot garbage and didn't only hurt our brand we weren't helping the conference build a solid brand.
(11-24-2022 02:15 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote: Without a huge influx of media exposure and viewership the SBC has no chance of closing the gap and staying close. Just isn't going to happen. There may be years they are stronger on the field but if no one is watching it isn't happening and doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things long term. The same way we aren't catching the lowest P5 anytime soon or probably ever.
Unfortunately I don’t think it’s about closing a gap. AAC and SBC are second tier football and the additions made bring the conferences on a move even playing field. ECU may be one of the biggest brands in the group of 5, but look around you, the viewership isn’t what you think.. you want to be in a superior conference? They you’re going to need an ACC invite.
I get what you're saying but the numbers don't lie about a gap in media exposure and and finances. Until the SBC dramatically increases exposure on the mouse and gets paid better a gap will remain. Just how it works.
(11-14-2022 10:52 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: AAC has established themselves as the 6th Power Conference with the best G5 tv deal.
The new CFP structure makes the path so much easier for the AAC.
How do you figure? The SBC and Liberty have clearly shown they can reach the top 25. Aside from UTSA the CUSA6 range from horrid to middling at best. The AAC is going to take a massive SOS hit next season.
The Human Polls care more about brands. AAC isn't barren, you still have SMU flagship with an exciting offense with Rhett Lashlee. When Memphis is good they grab attention. It seems like Tulane is an remerging brand.
If Tanner Mordecai returns next season, SMU should be a preseason Top 25 in this AAC rebuilding year.
TV Exposure is a big deal too. Aresco getting the most exposure puts the teams in front of the voter's eyes more often than the Sunbelt.
Coastal has been on national TV 4 weeks in a row. The SBC's better teams will get exposure lol. The terrible ODU loss is why we are where we are. Nothing else.
I suspect that also the CFPC is also punishing CCU for their QB being injured,(like they have openly stated they have or Tenn.)and the being a two score dog JMU doesn't help either. CCU missed an opportunity last week with UVA.
Nah on the UVA thing. A win over a bad (like barely top 100) UVA team wouldn’t have meant anything.
TU’s win over K State matters because they’re a top 15 team, not because they’re a P5 school.
