I wish it was going to be coastal, but I don’t see it in any scenario. AAC has THREE teams in the FP poll. SBC has zero. CCU has not played a p5, let alone win (not your alls fault, but that is how they will look at it), and the voters are going to chug Cincys and UCFs balls because they want the B12 to look good. No way CCU leapfrogs three.

The only difference between theirs and our P5 upsets. Sun Belt won with teams on the mid to lower level, while theirs came with the top of the conference.

That is literally the only separator. Sorry Coastal Carolina and Troy...

The only shot we have is a UCF run and a championship. It would be absurd to put a three loss champ in.

(11-19-2022 03:32 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(11-19-2022 03:21 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  As a Coastal fan, I may be in the minority, but I honestly don’t care. My wishes are:

1) be the best G5 team
2) win the SBC
3) win a bowl

I honestly don’t care about going to a big name bowl game vs an opponent with an athletic budget bigger than Coastal’s entire school budget. Of the 2020, 2021, and 2022 teams, this one imo is clearly the worst. So why should I care about playing in a bowl where we’ve got about a 25% chance of winning? For the prestige of saying we went?

The payout and boosting conference prestige alone is why we should be wanting to play the bigger names and in the biggest bowls possible. Whether we win or not. Those bids do that. Besides, you can't win if you don't even go.

We'd be bringing millions of eyeballs to not only the program and conference, but the entire University. The exposure and money that comes with these bowls can't be ignored. Huge for our programs, universities, and the conference.

I know the argument, but my mind is not changed by it. I would rather go to a bowl and win than go to a big bowl for a payday and lose. Our biggest benefactor is a billionaire and Moglia himself was against scheduling “money games”. As far as exposure for the school, we’ve already got so much exposure that we’ve got kids living in hotel rooms. Our enrollment this semester could’ve been 2500 students higher but we didn’t have the housing space. So,exposure at this point is not a problem.

UCF losing was a thing of beauty today. A win vs JMU and Troy would be a solid resume.

(11-19-2022 05:37 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(11-19-2022 03:32 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(11-19-2022 03:21 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  As a Coastal fan, I may be in the minority, but I honestly don’t care. My wishes are:

1) be the best G5 team
2) win the SBC
3) win a bowl

I honestly don’t care about going to a big name bowl game vs an opponent with an athletic budget bigger than Coastal’s entire school budget. Of the 2020, 2021, and 2022 teams, this one imo is clearly the worst. So why should I care about playing in a bowl where we’ve got about a 25% chance of winning? For the prestige of saying we went?

The payout and boosting conference prestige alone is why we should be wanting to play the bigger names and in the biggest bowls possible. Whether we win or not. Those bids do that. Besides, you can't win if you don't even go.

We'd be bringing millions of eyeballs to not only the program and conference, but the entire University. The exposure and money that comes with these bowls can't be ignored. Huge for our programs, universities, and the conference.

I know the argument, but my mind is not changed by it. I would rather go to a bowl and win than go to a big bowl for a payday and lose. Our biggest benefactor is a billionaire and Moglia himself was against scheduling “money games”. As far as exposure for the school, we’ve already got so much exposure that we’ve got kids living in hotel rooms. Our enrollment this semester could’ve been 2500 students higher but we didn’t have the housing space. So,exposure at this point is not a problem.

Agree to disagree I guess. Along with that exposure comes higher payouts and a major boost in overall prestige. I believe Moglia is referring to "smart scheduling" for winnable games, in which Coastal has ultimately done up to this point. At some point, as the program grows and establishes itself, the quality of opponent should evolve as well.

Coastal is a destination school and will continue be an attractive landing spot for many in that aspect. Never a such thing as too much exposure though. More applicants should allow the University to become more selective thus increasing student quality. Obviously though, if Coastal wants to push enrollment growth they will have to figure out housing accommodations.

It's very possible that the AAC Champion will have 3 losses. If a 3-loss AAC Champ is chosen for the NY6 over a 1-loss SBC Champ, I'll admit that this conference has a major perception issue, at least in the eyes of the CFP committee.

Personally, I don't think there are (at least) 3 AAC teams better than Coastal, but that's what the CFP committee thinks.

I get it. It is less than ideal but Coastal has a bad loss vs ODU. Coastal won’t have any P5 wins. The SBC perennial power programs in App and ULL are having down years.

If App or Marshall were 8-3 right now CCU’s resume would be good enough.

A win over JMU and a 10-2 Troy team still may be enough. Without McCall both will be tough.

(11-19-2022 05:37 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(11-19-2022 03:32 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(11-19-2022 03:21 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  As a Coastal fan, I may be in the minority, but I honestly don’t care. My wishes are:

1) be the best G5 team
2) win the SBC
3) win a bowl

I honestly don’t care about going to a big name bowl game vs an opponent with an athletic budget bigger than Coastal’s entire school budget. Of the 2020, 2021, and 2022 teams, this one imo is clearly the worst. So why should I care about playing in a bowl where we’ve got about a 25% chance of winning? For the prestige of saying we went?

The payout and boosting conference prestige alone is why we should be wanting to play the bigger names and in the biggest bowls possible. Whether we win or not. Those bids do that. Besides, you can't win if you don't even go.

We'd be bringing millions of eyeballs to not only the program and conference, but the entire University. The exposure and money that comes with these bowls can't be ignored. Huge for our programs, universities, and the conference.

I know the argument, but my mind is not changed by it. I would rather go to a bowl and win than go to a big bowl for a payday and lose. Our biggest benefactor is a billionaire and Moglia himself was against scheduling “money games”. As far as exposure for the school, we’ve already got so much exposure that we’ve got kids living in hotel rooms. Our enrollment this semester could’ve been 2500 students higher but we didn’t have the housing space. So,exposure at this point is not a problem.

Bobby Pruett, our HC from 1996-2004, had a saying - if you’re scared, get a dog.

Why would any fan not want the shot? We wouldn’t have beat Notre Dame, where we were given a lot less than a 25% chance, if we didn’t play them. Our fans used to get mad at our last coach because he always wanted a bowl in Florida even if it was a lesser opponent. App has gotten more mileage out of beating Michigan years ago then anything else in their history, right or wrong. Those are the wins that make you different in the G5. It’s why Boise was an ESPN darling for a decade. It wasn’t because they won the WAC every year, it was because they beat Oklahoma.

(11-19-2022 10:40 PM)banker Wrote:  Why would any fan not want the shot? We wouldn’t have beat Notre Dame, where we were given a lot less than a 25% chance, if we didn’t play them. Our fans used to get mad at our last coach because he always wanted a bowl in Florida even if it was a lesser opponent. App has gotten more mileage out of beating Michigan years ago then anything else in their history, right or wrong. Those are the wins that make you different in the G5. It’s why Boise was an ESPN darling for a decade. It wasn’t because they won the WAC every year, it was because they beat Oklahoma.

I take it you are not aware that we beat #8 BYU on 2 days notice two years ago. It’s not about being scared. I clearly stated that this team, despite the 9-1 record, is our worst team in 3 years. I find it highly doubtful that we’d beat any NY6 P5 team. I’d rather have a bowl win than a big payday. You’re welcome to your opinion.

I’d pick the NY6 bowl every time. There will also be our bowl tie ins and likely we’ll have seven the next round. Making the NY6 may never happen again. A lot of star have to align and the ball most bounce your way a few times that season.