LU has had nothing to crow about as it is beginning to gain respect. Against BYU, LU at home, just outside the top 25, was 7 point underdog to visiting BYU. On Saturday, LU being in one poll #23, had Arkansas as TWO TOUCHDOWN favorites against LU. That is hardly crowing but playing and winning to gain respect. The crowing perception is changed when it is backed up in games won.

That lack of respect has actually played into a benefit for LU. It has given them an edge, a chip on their shoulder, when approaching games they feel equal or near equal to.

(11-06-2022 07:50 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 07:43 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 01:47 AM)Hootyhoo Wrote:  

(11-05-2022 10:36 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-05-2022 09:48 PM)SammyH Wrote:  All4One?

God no. Just think the SBC is reaping what they sow. They are literally a bunch of bad teams beating or losing to other bad teams and trying to tell everyone that they are the new P5.

Idk man. The fun belt is pretty cool. I like mid majors deciding who they want to play and being cool with being who they are. A MAC of the south is great. I think CUSA has a high ceiling though. I'm psyched to be in the conference and in FBS.

as long as you don’t go around crowing about how much better you are than everybody else then turn around and continuously lay eggs.

Its a gauntlet, CFP level teams on the schedule every week.

It's hard to judge the G5s this year, with so many schools coming and going. The Sunbelt will likely have the intial advantage, simply because they didn't lose anyone and added mostly established programs. The AAC is adding some good(UTSA, UAB), and some really bad(Charlotte), along with literally having it's head cut off losing Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston. CUSA will probably have a couple of years of growing pains, but getting Liberty was the single best football add of the 3 transitioning conferences. I also love the potential of the 3 FCS additions.

G5 going forward, or at least the next few years, will be a continuous flux of which teams/conferences are at the top or bottom. Budgets are becoming closer as is brand value. Most of the bigger brands and budgets have gone to P5 conferences. Plus the transfer portal will have players going and coming at different rates than in the past.

JSU has a ways to go to catch up with Liberty and Sam. Not sure about NMSU vs JSU on how we will stack up. Just hope the atmosphere at JSU will attract some players to get us to a higher level. Watching some of the other G5 games, I do believe JSU will have as many or more butts in seats as most of the G5 schools.

(11-06-2022 07:43 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 01:47 AM)Hootyhoo Wrote:  

(11-05-2022 10:36 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-05-2022 09:48 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(11-05-2022 07:53 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Does anyone get the feeling that we are building a stronger conference than the dumpster fire 2-3 sun belt. The belt can play it how they want but they are all just really average teams beating up on each other trying to play it off as parody

All4One?

God no. Just think the SBC is reaping what they sow. They are literally a bunch of bad teams beating or losing to other bad teams and trying to tell everyone that they are the new P5.

Idk man. The fun belt is pretty cool. I like mid majors deciding who they want to play and being cool with being who they are. A MAC of the south is great. I think CUSA has a high ceiling though. I'm psyched to be in the conference and in FBS.

as long as you don’t go around crowing about how much better you are than everybody else then turn around and continuously lay eggs.

Fans of SBC teams are annoying. They have Georgia State fans taking crap when Georgia State have never won a conference championship in their program history.

(11-06-2022 09:32 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 07:43 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 01:47 AM)Hootyhoo Wrote:  

(11-05-2022 10:36 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-05-2022 09:48 PM)SammyH Wrote:  All4One?

God no. Just think the SBC is reaping what they sow. They are literally a bunch of bad teams beating or losing to other bad teams and trying to tell everyone that they are the new P5.

Idk man. The fun belt is pretty cool. I like mid majors deciding who they want to play and being cool with being who they are. A MAC of the south is great. I think CUSA has a high ceiling though. I'm psyched to be in the conference and in FBS.

as long as you don’t go around crowing about how much better you are than everybody else then turn around and continuously lay eggs.

Fans of SBC teams are annoying. They have Georgia State fans taking crap when Georgia State have never won a conference championship in their program history.

That annoyance will help to create interesting games with C-USA/SBC matchups.
And welcome to FBS. And I hope the membership invite stimulates a rapid improvement in facilities and generates fan interest. You seem to have a harder challenge than Liberty and the other incoming teams.

(11-06-2022 09:45 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:32 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 07:43 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 01:47 AM)Hootyhoo Wrote:  

(11-05-2022 10:36 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  God no. Just think the SBC is reaping what they sow. They are literally a bunch of bad teams beating or losing to other bad teams and trying to tell everyone that they are the new P5.

Idk man. The fun belt is pretty cool. I like mid majors deciding who they want to play and being cool with being who they are. A MAC of the south is great. I think CUSA has a high ceiling though. I'm psyched to be in the conference and in FBS.

as long as you don’t go around crowing about how much better you are than everybody else then turn around and continuously lay eggs.

Fans of SBC teams are annoying. They have Georgia State fans taking crap when Georgia State have never won a conference championship in their program history.

That annoyance will help to create interesting games with C-USA/SBC matchups.
And welcome to FBS. And I hope the membership invite stimulates a rapid improvement in facilities and generates fan interest. You seem to have a harder challenge than Liberty and the other incoming teams.

No, Kennesaw will have it second easiest to Liberty. They have no fans, but they’re rich and in a sweet location.

(11-06-2022 09:50 AM)SammyH Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:45 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:32 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 07:43 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 01:47 AM)Hootyhoo Wrote:  Idk man. The fun belt is pretty cool. I like mid majors deciding who they want to play and being cool with being who they are. A MAC of the south is great. I think CUSA has a high ceiling though. I'm psyched to be in the conference and in FBS.

as long as you don’t go around crowing about how much better you are than everybody else then turn around and continuously lay eggs.

Fans of SBC teams are annoying. They have Georgia State fans taking crap when Georgia State have never won a conference championship in their program history.

That annoyance will help to create interesting games with C-USA/SBC matchups.
And welcome to FBS. And I hope the membership invite stimulates a rapid improvement in facilities and generates fan interest. You seem to have a harder challenge than Liberty and the other incoming teams.

No, Kennesaw will have it second easiest to Liberty. They have no fans, but they’re rich and in a sweet location.

Schools in large or nearby large metro areas most always have difficulty in building a fan base.

(11-06-2022 09:03 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  G5 going forward, or at least the next few years, will be a continuous flux of which teams/conferences are at the top or bottom. Budgets are becoming closer as is brand value. Most of the bigger brands and budgets have gone to P5 conferences. Plus the transfer portal will have players going and coming at different rates than in the past.

JSU has a ways to go to catch up with Liberty and Sam. Not sure about NMSU vs JSU on how we will stack up. Just hope the atmosphere at JSU will attract some players to get us to a higher level. Watching some of the other G5 games, I do believe JSU will have as many or more butts in seats as most of the G5 schools.

It's going to be interesting to watch how JSU does. I think they have the "fanbase" advantage over SHSU and KSU, but both of those schools are wallowing in quality FBS highschool talent in their backyards. Being the 6th FBS in a low population state is going to present some recruiting challenges for JSU.

Liberty was a great addition to USA. Great facilities, budget, and aggressive administration. They can compete in any G5 conference. If they can keep P5s from poaching Hugh Freeze, they could find themselves in the BCS playoffs in a few years. I do wonder if they will continue to have success if Freeze leaves. He is a big-time coach. I think he would be better off staying at Liberty. I know they are paying him on the same level as elite P5s. He can recruit at Liberty and he doesn't have to face the SEC gauntlet every week.

(11-06-2022 09:58 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  Liberty was a great addition to USA. Great facilities, budget, and aggressive administration. They can compete in any G5 conference. If they can keep P5s from poaching Hugh Freeze, they could find themselves in the BCS playoffs in a few years. I do wonder if they will continue to have success if Freeze leaves. He is a big-time coach. I think he would be better off staying at Liberty. I know they are paying him on the same level as elite P5s. He can recruit at Liberty and he doesn't have to face the SEC gauntlet every week.

When a school can afford to pay a head coach 5m, they should always have a good coach, whether it's Freeze or someone else.

Liberty, with their financial advantages, is going to be a shark in a goldfish bowl in CUSA, and in the G5 in general. I actually think that will be a good thing for CUSA. Other programs will have to push hard to compete with them, and that could help the conference become relevant quickly.

(11-06-2022 09:58 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  Liberty was a great addition to USA. Great facilities, budget, and aggressive administration. They can compete in any G5 conference. If they can keep P5s from poaching Hugh Freeze, they could find themselves in the BCS playoffs in a few years. I do wonder if they will continue to have success if Freeze leaves. He is a big-time coach. I think he would be better off staying at Liberty. I know they are paying him on the same level as elite P5s. He can recruit at Liberty and he doesn't have to face the SEC gauntlet every week.

I’d imagine Liberty would have a lot of options if Hugh left. Money is essentially no object and there are a lot of great options out there.

(11-06-2022 09:58 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  Liberty was a great addition to USA. Great facilities, budget, and aggressive administration. They can compete in any G5 conference. If they can keep P5s from poaching Hugh Freeze, they could find themselves in the BCS playoffs in a few years. I do wonder if they will continue to have success if Freeze leaves. He is a big-time coach. I think he would be better off staying at Liberty. I know they are paying him on the same level as elite P5s. He can recruit at Liberty and he doesn't have to face the SEC gauntlet every week.

5 years ago, I would have disagreed believing that the SEC challenge would lure Freeze to the brighter lights and higher profile. Today, is seems to be a 50/50 for Freeze. My guess is this is Freeze's highest point and opportunity he will have to depart for the SEC. He's a southern guy who wants to live and remain in the South. Both Auburn and LU offer than. One comfort, ease, less pressure, more relaxed environment. The other, high expectation, more pressure, more alumni demands and expectations. If it does not happen for Auburn, then the next opportunity would be for Freeze to consider Alabama when Saban retires. But that is a tall order to maintain the excellence at Alabama that is the current opposite of Auburn and when the Alabama opening occurs. 50/50 is my take Freeze remains or departs for Auburn.

(11-06-2022 09:45 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:32 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 07:43 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 01:47 AM)Hootyhoo Wrote:  

(11-05-2022 10:36 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  God no. Just think the SBC is reaping what they sow. They are literally a bunch of bad teams beating or losing to other bad teams and trying to tell everyone that they are the new P5.

Idk man. The fun belt is pretty cool. I like mid majors deciding who they want to play and being cool with being who they are. A MAC of the south is great. I think CUSA has a high ceiling though. I'm psyched to be in the conference and in FBS.

as long as you don’t go around crowing about how much better you are than everybody else then turn around and continuously lay eggs.

Fans of SBC teams are annoying. They have Georgia State fans taking crap when Georgia State have never won a conference championship in their program history.

That annoyance will help to create interesting games with C-USA/SBC matchups.
And welcome to FBS. And I hope the membership invite stimulates a rapid improvement in facilities and generates fan interest. You seem to have a harder challenge than Liberty and the other incoming teams.

How when KSU has more money than NMSU, JSU and SHSU and have been more successful in football than JSU for the past 5 years. KSU facilities are also better than SHSU. KSU only issue is attendance and SHSU share the same issue.

(11-06-2022 09:56 AM)Tmac13 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:03 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  G5 going forward, or at least the next few years, will be a continuous flux of which teams/conferences are at the top or bottom. Budgets are becoming closer as is brand value. Most of the bigger brands and budgets have gone to P5 conferences. Plus the transfer portal will have players going and coming at different rates than in the past.

JSU has a ways to go to catch up with Liberty and Sam. Not sure about NMSU vs JSU on how we will stack up. Just hope the atmosphere at JSU will attract some players to get us to a higher level. Watching some of the other G5 games, I do believe JSU will have as many or more butts in seats as most of the G5 schools.

It's going to be interesting to watch how JSU does. I think they have the "fanbase" advantage over SHSU and KSU, but both of those schools are wallowing in quality FBS highschool talent in their backyards. Being the 6th FBS in a low population state is going to present some recruiting challenges for JSU.

Only advantage we will have is our area has quite a bit more population close by than the other FBS schools. JSU may also have more people in attendance than any of the others minus UAT and Aub. KSU coming will limit JSU on recruiting area as NW GA is a strong area for JSU and KSU but lots of players in North Atlanta.

(11-06-2022 10:43 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:45 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:32 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 07:43 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 01:47 AM)Hootyhoo Wrote:  Idk man. The fun belt is pretty cool. I like mid majors deciding who they want to play and being cool with being who they are. A MAC of the south is great. I think CUSA has a high ceiling though. I'm psyched to be in the conference and in FBS.

as long as you don’t go around crowing about how much better you are than everybody else then turn around and continuously lay eggs.

Fans of SBC teams are annoying. They have Georgia State fans taking crap when Georgia State have never won a conference championship in their program history.

That annoyance will help to create interesting games with C-USA/SBC matchups.
And welcome to FBS. And I hope the membership invite stimulates a rapid improvement in facilities and generates fan interest. You seem to have a harder challenge than Liberty and the other incoming teams.

How when KSU has more money than NMSU, JSU and SHSU and have been more successful in football than JSU for the past 5 years. KSU facilities are also better than SHSU. KSU only issue is attendance and SHSU share the same issue.

That soccer field y’all play on needs MAJOR upgrades.

(11-06-2022 12:03 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 10:43 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:45 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:32 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 07:43 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  as long as you don’t go around crowing about how much better you are than everybody else then turn around and continuously lay eggs.

Fans of SBC teams are annoying. They have Georgia State fans taking crap when Georgia State have never won a conference championship in their program history.

That annoyance will help to create interesting games with C-USA/SBC matchups.
And welcome to FBS. And I hope the membership invite stimulates a rapid improvement in facilities and generates fan interest. You seem to have a harder challenge than Liberty and the other incoming teams.

How when KSU has more money than NMSU, JSU and SHSU and have been more successful in football than JSU for the past 5 years. KSU facilities are also better than SHSU. KSU only issue is attendance and SHSU share the same issue.

That soccer field y’all play on needs MAJOR upgrades.

It only needs expansion which they have plans for and it was built with expansion in mind. The stadium is nice even C-USA officials said that the stadium is nice. You bash KSU stadium alot but you have not been to it. If you been to it, you will know that it is a nice stadium.

(11-06-2022 12:19 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 12:03 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 10:43 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:45 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:32 AM)jones682 Wrote:  Fans of SBC teams are annoying. They have Georgia State fans taking crap when Georgia State have never won a conference championship in their program history.

That annoyance will help to create interesting games with C-USA/SBC matchups.
And welcome to FBS. And I hope the membership invite stimulates a rapid improvement in facilities and generates fan interest. You seem to have a harder challenge than Liberty and the other incoming teams.

How when KSU has more money than NMSU, JSU and SHSU and have been more successful in football than JSU for the past 5 years. KSU facilities are also better than SHSU. KSU only issue is attendance and SHSU share the same issue.

That soccer field y’all play on needs MAJOR upgrades.

It only needs expansion which they have plans for and it was built with expansion in mind. The stadium is nice even C-USA officials said that the stadium is nice. You bash KSU stadium alot but you have not been to it. If you been to it, you will know that it is a nice stadium.

You need almost double the current capacity to be considered a small FBS stadium. And because it’s a soccer field first aren’t the seats farther away from the field than normal? Isn’t KSU considering building a new stadium or something?

If anyone hasnt been to JSU you will be as close to the action as possible. Might be considered too close for most players and coaches.

(11-06-2022 12:47 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  If anyone hasnt been to JSU you will be as close to the action as possible. Might be considered too close for most players and coaches.

As JSU is less than a 2 hour drive for me, I look forward to attending, especially when LU plays both FB and basketball.

(11-06-2022 12:26 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 12:19 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 12:03 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 10:43 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-06-2022 09:45 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  That annoyance will help to create interesting games with C-USA/SBC matchups.
And welcome to FBS. And I hope the membership invite stimulates a rapid improvement in facilities and generates fan interest. You seem to have a harder challenge than Liberty and the other incoming teams.

How when KSU has more money than NMSU, JSU and SHSU and have been more successful in football than JSU for the past 5 years. KSU facilities are also better than SHSU. KSU only issue is attendance and SHSU share the same issue.

That soccer field y’all play on needs MAJOR upgrades.

It only needs expansion which they have plans for and it was built with expansion in mind. The stadium is nice even C-USA officials said that the stadium is nice. You bash KSU stadium alot but you have not been to it. If you been to it, you will know that it is a nice stadium.

You need almost double the current capacity to be considered a small FBS stadium. And because it’s a soccer field first aren’t the seats farther away from the field than normal? Isn’t KSU considering building a new stadium or something?

That is incorrect. A soccer field seats are closer up not far away. I can tell you have not been to KSU stadium because KSU's stadium was built for football in mind and for expansion. SHSU seats are far away because there is a track. Please research and talk to people who been to the stadium and know the stadium before you bash it. I had this conversation with you before regarding KSU stadium.