https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-ucla-move

Dozens of people have told him.

(10-26-2022 05:47 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-ucla-move

Dozens of people have told him.

Yeah, not exactly a representative sample.

Still, I bet he's right.

Desperate Kliavkoff gonna desperate.

(10-26-2022 05:47 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-ucla-move

Dozens of people have told him.

Tens and tens of fans.

(10-26-2022 06:19 PM)Alanda Wrote:  

(10-26-2022 05:47 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  Dozens of people have told him.

Tens and tens of fans.

Updated quotes from Pac-12 office: "It was like five people the first week, including Jon Wilner and John Canzano, but nobody since. But my phone was down for a few weeks in August, so I may have missed some calls or texts."

I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of USC and UCLA fans were at least ambivalent about the situation. The huge $$ boost will be awesome, but they're not exactly lighting up the PAC in the past 5+ years, and they're about to get turned into ground meat by the B1G in football. They'll both be fine in basketball right away though I expect.

(10-26-2022 05:47 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-ucla-move

Dozens of people have told him.

(10-26-2022 06:36 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of USC and UCLA fans were at least ambivalent about the situation. The huge $$ boost will be awesome, but they're not exactly lighting up the PAC in the past 5+ years, and they're about to get turned into ground meat by the B1G in football. They'll both be fine in basketball right away though I expect.

who exactly is going to turn them into ground meat in football? I get Ohio St and Michigan. But besides that?

(10-26-2022 06:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-26-2022 05:47 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-ucla-move

Dozens of people have told him.

I'm not a fan of the move but understand it's a money earner for the schools. We'll see if people turn out for home games against Iowa, Rutgers and northwestern compared to Washington State, Oregon State and Cal. I personally think it's a mistake especially when no one else left the PAC 12 with them. At least having Cal and Stanford with you keeps local rivalry games and less travel for 3 games a season for football and 6 games in basketball.

This guy is such a tool.

Adding schools from outside the region or moving from regions to another outside of the region is excitement because the fans will not travel so far every week for games. At least I talked to some PAC 12 fans including USC and UCLA fans, they would have been happy if the PAC 12 went to 16 when they added Colorado and Utah. They were not too excited about Colorado, but they would have been happy with Hawaii, Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State, Air Force and UNR. Those schools did bring excitement to games back then as they were very competitive. Colorado was not very competitive, and you could see why that PAC 12 fans are not very supportive of football recently. I do think the big networks and school presidents are shooting themselves in the foot on realignment. The fans are demanding the best products, not how big a tv market it is.

(10-26-2022 06:57 PM)46566 Wrote:  I'm not a fan of the move but understand it's a money earner for the schools. We'll see if people turn out for home games against Iowa, Rutgers and northwestern compared to Washington State, Oregon State and Cal. I personally think it's a mistake especially when no one else left the PAC 12 with them. At least having Cal and Stanford with you keeps local rivalry games and less travel for 3 games a season for football and 6 games in basketball.

Yet

Additional headline:

"Fans not in Favor" of Texahoma moves - Bowlsby

I tried to look online for fan reaction to his comment and one USC commentator said the fan Kliavkoff talked to was Manti Teo's girlfriend

I agree with David on this: “ The fans are demanding the best products, not how big a tv market it is.”

(10-26-2022 06:36 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of USC and UCLA fans were at least ambivalent about the situation. The huge $$ boost will be awesome, but they're not exactly lighting up the PAC in the past 5+ years, and they're about to get turned into ground meat by the B1G in football. They'll both be fine in basketball right away though I expect.

We'll see. B1G teams haven't made a trademark of turning anyone else into 'ground meat'. They play like it sometimes, though.

They're champions at getting press attention, mainly.

(10-26-2022 06:47 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-26-2022 06:36 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of USC and UCLA fans were at least ambivalent about the situation. The huge $$ boost will be awesome, but they're not exactly lighting up the PAC in the past 5+ years, and they're about to get turned into ground meat by the B1G in football. They'll both be fine in basketball right away though I expect.

who exactly is going to turn them into ground meat in football? I get Ohio St and Michigan. But besides that?

Exactly. The Big Ten is two programs and a bunch of wannabes. USC, and UCLA don't change that.

(10-26-2022 07:07 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(10-26-2022 06:57 PM)46566 Wrote:  I'm not a fan of the move but understand it's a money earner for the schools. We'll see if people turn out for home games against Iowa, Rutgers and northwestern compared to Washington State, Oregon State and Cal. I personally think it's a mistake especially when no one else left the PAC 12 with them. At least having Cal and Stanford with you keeps local rivalry games and less travel for 3 games a season for football and 6 games in basketball.

Yet

Money isn’t there.

(10-26-2022 07:06 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Adding schools from outside the region or moving from regions to another outside of the region is excitement because the fans will not travel so far every week for games. At least I talked to some PAC 12 fans including USC and UCLA fans, they would have been happy if the PAC 12 went to 16 when they added Colorado and Utah. They were not too excited about Colorado, but they would have been happy with Hawaii, Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State, Air Force and UNR. Those schools did bring excitement to games back then as they were very competitive. Colorado was not very competitive, and you could see why that PAC 12 fans are not very supportive of football recently. I do think the big networks and school presidents are shooting themselves in the foot on realignment. The fans are demanding the best products, not how big a tv market it is.

You forgot to mention (throws a couple darts) FGCU, Buffalo, and UIW.