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(10-19-2022 11:01 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  Mayor Pete has become one of the most in demand voices on the campaign trail. So, that could be an indication of his popularity. But, I’m not sure America is ready to elect a gay President;

He should be elected because he is gay, or because he has accomplished many things that would make him qualified for the job? If the latter, what are his biggest accomplishments? I'm a fan of electing people who are qualified. Not electing them simply because of their race, gender, or sexual orientation. Maybe I'm just old fashioned (at 37 years old)?

No one's saying he should be elected "because he's gay," but that being gay is probably still a big hurdle to his electability.

Buttigieg doesn't have a ton of Gov experience, but his intelligence, articulation, demeanor and pragmatism are appealing to a lot of people. Our previous POTUS obviously had zero qualifications. Same with Tudor Dixon.

Although length of public office never mattered that much to me. Of the many things I despise about Trump, I never really cared that he arrived from the private sector.

If you check all the boxes of what I look for in policy, and you appear to have the mental fortitude and temperament to tackle the job, I'll still consider that person.

Trump wasn't qualified to do anything other than promote himself. He was a life long trust fund baby that tried as hard as he could to squander his inherited fortune.

Mayor Pete is popular due to ability to relate and articulate solutions well. The discussion was about his being disqualified because he's gay more than anything else. I for one would like a more seasoned person, but that may be a moot point if our democracy comes off of the rails.

Then all bets are off on qualifications, and everything else for that matter. It's well within the realm of happening.

(10-20-2022 02:43 PM)RaybanBronco Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 11:01 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  Mayor Pete has become one of the most in demand voices on the campaign trail. So, that could be an indication of his popularity. But, I’m not sure America is ready to elect a gay President;

He should be elected because he is gay, or because he has accomplished many things that would make him qualified for the job? If the latter, what are his biggest accomplishments? I'm a fan of electing people who are qualified. Not electing them simply because of their race, gender, or sexual orientation. Maybe I'm just old fashioned (at 37 years old)?

I never said he should be elected President because he's gay. Do you vote for Presidential candidates because they are straight?

He's been the Mayor of a City and is currently the Secretary of Transportation. He's 40 years old right now. He would be 43 when he took office.

I know it doesn't compete with bankrupt casino owner, failed steak salesman, & fraudulent University founder.

I like Tim Ryan, who is running for Senate in Ohio. He's from a working class part of Ohio (Youngstown), appeals to working class voters, and actually fights for liberal causes, unlike current House and Senate D leadership which caves to GOP pressure at every opportunity.

I also like Val Demings, D from central Florida, who humiliated Marco Rubio the other day.

(10-23-2022 10:40 AM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  I like Tim Ryan, who is running for Senate in Ohio. He's from a working class part of Ohio (Youngstown), appeals to working class voters, and actually fights for liberal causes, unlike current House and Senate D leadership which caves to GOP pressure at every opportunity.

I also like Val Demings, D from central Florida, who humiliated Marco Rubio the other day.

I like both of them. Ryan is struggling with the party for funding right now, it's pretty much grass roots funded.

Demmings fights an uphill battle in FloriDUH. Sadly, I think both aren't going to win in those respective mouth breathing states.

(10-23-2022 11:30 AM)ktotten Wrote:  I like both of them. Ryan is struggling with the party for funding right now, it's pretty much grass roots funded.

Demmings fights an uphill battle in FloriDUH. Sadly, I think both aren't going to win in those respective mouth breathing states.

Why do you think the Ds are not funding Ryan properly? Ohio being a mouth-breathing state?

(10-23-2022 12:44 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 11:30 AM)ktotten Wrote:  I like both of them. Ryan is struggling with the party for funding right now, it's pretty much grass roots funded.

Demmings fights an uphill battle in FloriDUH. Sadly, I think both aren't going to win in those respective mouth breathing states.

Why do you think the Ds are not funding Ryan properly? Ohio being a mouth-breathing state?

This article explains the crux of Ryan's funding challenges. The "game within the game". As far as Ohio? Personal opinion only, however, if they elect a guy who's claim to fame is working in the VC private sector, writing a book, and openly humiliating himself to kiss Trump's ass, it''ll move to FIRM OPNINION. (You didn't ask about Florida, haha)

https://www.businessinsider.com/tim-ryan...ey-2022-10

(10-23-2022 10:40 AM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  I also like Val Demings, D from central Florida, who humiliated Marco Rubio the other day.

Charlie Crist also completely outclassed Ron DeSantis as well.

It's really revealing how bumbling and incompetent they look once you pull these guys out of the friendly confines of their Fox News bubbles and MAGA circles.

Thing is, it doesn't matter. Rubio and especially DeSantis will win.

(10-24-2022 08:14 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 10:40 AM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  I also like Val Demings, D from central Florida, who humiliated Marco Rubio the other day.

Charlie Crist also completely outclassed Ron DeSantis as well.

It's really revealing how bumbling and incompetent they look once you pull these guys out of the friendly confines of their Fox News bubbles and MAGA circles.

Thing is, it doesn't matter. Rubio and especially DeSantis will win.

Nope, what I've been trying to (and failing) to say everywhere now for the last few years.

(10-20-2022 02:43 PM)RaybanBronco Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 11:01 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  Mayor Pete has become one of the most in demand voices on the campaign trail. So, that could be an indication of his popularity. But, I’m not sure America is ready to elect a gay President;

He should be elected because he is gay, or because he has accomplished many things that would make him qualified for the job? If the latter, what are his biggest accomplishments? I'm a fan of electing people who are qualified. Not electing them simply because of their race, gender, or sexual orientation. Maybe I'm just old fashioned (at 37 years old)?

Here is good clip to familiarize yourself with Mayor Pete.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/15849...RBby8ld_gg

What I like about Pete is he's a smart guy, his being gay makes him well aware of discrimination and how it affects people, and also he's a veteran. And he did get experience running South Bend as the mayor. He speaks well, and although he's religious unlike me, he takes a more "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" angle on it, instead of people like Pence who use it to separate and divide people, and force others to behave according to their dictates.