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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
(11-27-2022 06:18 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(11-27-2022 02:59 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  Fickell to wisconsin is a REAL shocker to me.

Me too! His two "dream jobs" in my mind were OSU and ND. Ryan Day will NOT survive another loss to U-M and Freeman had a less than stellar year in South Bend. I expected him to tread water in Cincy for another year as a result.

His embrace of Ben Bryant and this move to Wisconsin, however, indicates that the cupboard may be going bare in southern Ohio.

The Wisconsin opening provided possibly the easiest road to a P5 conference championship game year over year being in the B1G West. Also, with the realignment in the near future those schools will be flushed with cash from their TV deals.
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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
(11-28-2022 12:36 PM)EagleHawk Wrote:  UNLV fired their coach

Why?
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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
(11-28-2022 07:55 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 07:35 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  Lester out at WMU.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...tim-lester

WOWZER

go hire him to be the OC

i would hate you all so much if you did that, lol.
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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
(11-28-2022 01:07 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 12:36 PM)EagleHawk Wrote:  UNLV fired their coach

Why?

No clue. Seemed to be making progress there.
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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
(11-28-2022 01:15 PM)Bronc33 Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 07:55 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 07:35 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  Lester out at WMU.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...tim-lester

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go hire him to be the OC

i would hate you all so much if you did that, lol.

Lester seemed like a good guy, sucks for him. I assume he picks up a decent job moving forward
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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
(10-04-2022 01:12 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  Lets Fire up the Coaching Carousel. Open Division 1-A Jobs:
Wisconsin - Hired Cincinnati HC Luke Fickell
Nebraska - Hired Former Carolina Panthers Coach Matt Rhule
Arizona State (LOL) - Hired Oregon OC Kenny Dillingham
Colorado
Georgia Tech
Charlotte - Hired Michigan Assistant Biff Poggi
Auburn - Hired Liberty Head Coach and All-Around Sleazebag Hugh Freeze
South Florida
Stanford
Florida Atlantic
UAB
Texas St.
Cincinnati
Tulsa
Western Michigan
UNLV
Liberty

Will CC take any of these? Probably not. Will they affect the MAC? Sure will.

Auburn just finalized hiring Hugh Freeze
11-28-2022 04:21 PM
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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
(11-28-2022 07:52 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 07:24 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(11-28-2022 05:36 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-27-2022 07:56 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  
(11-27-2022 06:26 PM)holybovine Wrote:  I suspect CC will be on a few lists.
Tulsa needs a new coach! CC would be a nice fit! Coached in Iowa!

I would think a Midwest school. Not sure about Tulsa.

BTW, CC has children in h.s. (I believe) and I'm not sure he wants to uproot.

CC has coached in Kansas, Indiana, Iowa, and Michigan. Oklahoma isnt THAT far out of the realm of possibility.

I say "no" but people can disagree on this one.

Please guys we have ZERO worries here. MAC coaches are too hard to sell to any donor base willing to pay more for a football coach. Fleck was indeed a unicorn, and his record along with his personality have been unmatched by any MAC coach in the recent past. Carey had far better credentials than CC but was only hired by Temple late after their original hire, Manny Diaz decided to go to Miami. Carey bombed as well. Leipold was a "last minute" hire at possibly the worst P5 job in the nation, he simply was their best choice at a horrible time, yet he had a very good MAC record.

Sports reporters have an intimate knowledge of the fine job Creighton has done, bigger school donor bases do NOT. They see 27-43 only. I remember a Free Press reporter who suggested that MSU had two choices to replace Dantonio. One, was a bearded CC and the other was a clean-shaven Creighton. Ishbia and others, however, felt differently and they went after Fickell and others before settling on Mel Tucker.

Candle, Creighton and McElwain always seem to be on the list of candidates published by the media, but I seriously doubt any of them are actually "first page" of the bigger schools searching for a new coach. Charlotte will hire a Biff Poggi from Michigan with ZERO head coaching experience instead. Fair? No, but it is what it is.

That is EXACTLY why I always supported rational criticism of Creighton's coaching but NEVER advocated for his replacement. He took on an incredibly hard job that was hardly a springboard for his future.
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Agreed Jerry. Not to mention, 8-4 is Creighton’s best season, and none of those 8 wins came against bowl eligible teams. In fact, we’ve only played 2 bowl eligible teams all year (5-6 Buffalo has a chance to make it 3), a blowout loss to 6-6 ULL and a home loss to 7-5 Toledo and their backup QB. While I’m satisfied with the season, especially winning the Michigan MAC Trophy, its a tough sell as a resume for other schools. Not to mention Creighton is no spring chicken. I can’t imagine any P5 schools calling, and I don’t expect him to leave his cushy contract for a lateral move. He isn’t going anywhere.
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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
I think it is worth pointing out that the last two successful MAC coaches hired into P5 were late hires - Fleck to Minnesota and Leipold to Kansas.
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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
Whew! WMU has some guts to fire Lester who has a winning MAC record. Their next coach is probably going to make a million dollars per season. If you get a very good coach in there, he could run the table’s because there are not many coaching gurus in the MAC.
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(11-29-2022 12:45 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  Whew! WMU has some guts to fire Lester who has a winning MAC record. Their next coach is probably going to make a million dollars per season. If you get a very good coach in there, he could run the table’s because there are not many coaching gurus in the MAC.

or they could hire the wrong guy and fall off a cliff - ONLY TIME WILL TELL
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Georgia Tech promoting their interim coach to HC.
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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
(11-29-2022 12:53 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(11-29-2022 12:45 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  Whew! WMU has some guts to fire Lester who has a winning MAC record. Their next coach is probably going to make a million dollars per season. If you get a very good coach in there, he could run the table’s because there are not many coaching gurus in the MAC.

or they could hire the wrong guy and fall off a cliff - ONLY TIME WILL TELL

We need our western friends to make another mediocre coaching decision - give us a few years of wins over both central and western to reset the narrative
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(11-29-2022 03:08 PM)Huron Boy Wrote:  
(11-29-2022 12:53 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(11-29-2022 12:45 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  Whew! WMU has some guts to fire Lester who has a winning MAC record. Their next coach is probably going to make a million dollars per season. If you get a very good coach in there, he could run the table’s because there are not many coaching gurus in the MAC.

or they could hire the wrong guy and fall off a cliff - ONLY TIME WILL TELL

We need our western friends to make another mediocre coaching decision - give us a few years of wins over both central and western to reset the narrative

Western should hire Ron English
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My cousin is on the Ferris State's staff
He told me that Western has called Ferris State Head Coach Tony Annese
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(11-29-2022 03:34 PM)EdifiedVoyage6 Wrote:  My cousin is on the Ferris State's staff
He told me that Western has called Ferris State Head Coach Tony Annese

No. No. He won't be there for EMU. 03-lmfao

As I've suggested before, posters here seem to be in love with Grand Valley, Ferris, etc.

Guess it goes back to the CMU struck gold with Brian Kelly, so...
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(11-29-2022 03:46 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-29-2022 03:34 PM)EdifiedVoyage6 Wrote:  My cousin is on the Ferris State's staff
He told me that Western has called Ferris State Head Coach Tony Annese

No. No. He won't be there for EMU. 03-lmfao

As I've suggested before, posters here seem to be in love with Grand Valley, Ferris, etc.

Guess it goes back to the CMU struck gold with Brian Kelly, so...

I plead guilty to your assertion of preferring head coaches from lower-level schools. Our three most successful coaches in the men's revenue sports, Harkema, Braun and Creighton certainly did.

I like two things:

They fit MAC budgets, we are actually "poaching" them with more money. Unlike Chuck Martin at Miami, they are not taking a pay cut.

A head coach is the CEO of the program. He hires the assistants, establishes position recruiting budgets, markets the program and is the "closer" on recruiting. Those are tasks that P5 assistants have little experience with.

Nevertheless, at the end of the day, I think the interview process is crucial. You find a PJ Fleck or Nate Oats, hire them.
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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
(11-29-2022 03:34 PM)EdifiedVoyage6 Wrote:  My cousin is on the Ferris State's staff
He told me that Western has called Ferris State Head Coach Tony Annese

Good! I’m dying to see if Annese can translate to FBS.
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RE: Coaching Carousel Thread 2022
(11-29-2022 03:46 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-29-2022 03:34 PM)EdifiedVoyage6 Wrote:  My cousin is on the Ferris State's staff
He told me that Western has called Ferris State Head Coach Tony Annese

No. No. He won't be there for EMU. 03-lmfao

As I've suggested before, posters here seem to be in love with Grand Valley, Ferris, etc.

Guess it goes back to the CMU struck gold with Brian Kelly, so...

Why are you making fun of posters who love Annese when Western is contacting him? Maybe we’re not all dummies after all?
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(11-29-2022 07:35 PM)holybovine Wrote:  
(11-29-2022 03:46 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-29-2022 03:34 PM)EdifiedVoyage6 Wrote:  My cousin is on the Ferris State's staff
He told me that Western has called Ferris State Head Coach Tony Annese

No. No. He won't be there for EMU. 03-lmfao

As I've suggested before, posters here seem to be in love with Grand Valley, Ferris, etc.

Guess it goes back to the CMU struck gold with Brian Kelly, so...

Why are you making fun of posters who love Annese when Western is contacting him? Maybe we’re not all dummies after all?

I as well think Annese woukd be a good FBS coach. He runs a tight ship and is very successful.

Here's a thought...for those of you that think Annese wouldn't work because he coaches Division 2 and that he couldn't make the next step.......CC coached where before EMU?
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