This guy used to be our commissioner - American South?

Me feels like he's expecting the Pac-12 and/or Big 12 to do some raiding, and he doesn't want to be there when it occurs.

Odd timing, especially for it to be happening in just a few short months.

1987–1991 American South (commissioner)
1991–1998 Sun Belt (commissioner)
1998–present Mountain West (commissioner)

Oh crap, what does that mean for us

(09-14-2022 06:30 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Oh crap, what does that mean for us

Not sure it means anything to us, directly. I expect this to mean that the PAC12 is about to be all but picked apart by the B1G and Big XII and the two remaining PAC absorbs the MW, in entirety. No more MW, which helps in the top 6 conference champs making the playoffs when there is one less FBS conference.

Could actually see a couple current MW teams left out of the PAC absorbing the MW and those left over could head into the current CUSA, they have plenty of spots available.

Interesting.

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(09-14-2022 06:35 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 06:30 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Oh crap, what does that mean for us

Not sure it means anything to us, directly. I expect this to mean that the PAC12 is about to be all but picked apart by the B1G and Big XII and the two remaining PAC absorbs the MW, in entirety. No more MW, which helps in the top 6 conference champs making the playoffs when there is one less FBS conference.

Could actually see a couple current MW teams left out of the PAC absorbing the MW and those left over could head into the current CUSA, they have plenty of spots available.

That's not happening. PAC-10 has already told Boise no once. They sure as hell not going to take the likes of Nevada, NM, or San Jose st.

(09-14-2022 06:55 PM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 06:35 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 06:30 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Oh crap, what does that mean for us

Not sure it means anything to us, directly. I expect this to mean that the PAC12 is about to be all but picked apart by the B1G and Big XII and the two remaining PAC absorbs the MW, in entirety. No more MW, which helps in the top 6 conference champs making the playoffs when there is one less FBS conference.

Could actually see a couple current MW teams left out of the PAC absorbing the MW and those left over could head into the current CUSA, they have plenty of spots available.

That's not happening. PAC-10 has already told Boise no once. They sure as hell not going to take the likes of Nevada, NM, or San Jose st.

There are so many potential scenarios that could happen between the Pac-12, Big 12, Big 10, MWC, and AAC.... it's almost pointless to try and predict what could happen.

I do believe the SBC is safe, no matter what happens at this point. No P5 is going to come calling currently, and the AAC doesn't have the same leverage to grab our best schools. MWC obviously won't pursue Southern schools except Texas State... but losing Texas State doesn't cause the SBC to react.

He is on the Playoff expansion committee and it can’t help with him leaving. G5 has one less voice in the process. Hopefully, FBS commits to an expanded playoff for 2024 with his help and gets TV contract commitments before he retires. Once the playoff contract is locked in we can breathe a little easier that things won’t be tilted more towards the P5 in terms of selection criteria and money sharing.

Keith Gill is not interested.

(09-14-2022 07:54 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  He is on the Playoff expansion committee and it can’t help with him leaving. G5 has one less voice in the process. Hopefully, FBS commits to an expanded playoff for 2024 with his help and gets TV contract commitments before he retires. Once the playoff contract is locked in we can breathe a little easier that things won’t be tilted more towards the P5 in terms of selection criteria and money sharing.

There's a rep from all 10 FBS Conferences plus Notre Dame on the playoff expansion committee.

(09-14-2022 06:55 PM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 06:35 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 06:30 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Oh crap, what does that mean for us

Not sure it means anything to us, directly. I expect this to mean that the PAC12 is about to be all but picked apart by the B1G and Big XII and the two remaining PAC absorbs the MW, in entirety. No more MW, which helps in the top 6 conference champs making the playoffs when there is one less FBS conference.

Could actually see a couple current MW teams left out of the PAC absorbing the MW and those left over could head into the current CUSA, they have plenty of spots available.

That's not happening. PAC-10 has already told Boise no once. They sure as hell not going to take the likes of Nevada, NM, or San Jose st.

They turned down Boise when they had 12 members, big difference if they taken down to 2 or 4 members.

(09-14-2022 07:54 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  He is on the Playoff expansion committee and it can’t help with him leaving. G5 has one less voice in the process. Hopefully, FBS commits to an expanded playoff for 2024 with his help and gets TV contract commitments before he retires. Once the playoff contract is locked in we can breathe a little easier that things won’t be tilted more towards the P5 in terms of selection criteria and money sharing.

Hopefully if he retires and leaves the expansion committee, he would be replaced by another “G5” commish, hopefully ours.

(09-14-2022 07:32 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 06:55 PM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 06:35 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 06:30 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Oh crap, what does that mean for us

Not sure it means anything to us, directly. I expect this to mean that the PAC12 is about to be all but picked apart by the B1G and Big XII and the two remaining PAC absorbs the MW, in entirety. No more MW, which helps in the top 6 conference champs making the playoffs when there is one less FBS conference.

Could actually see a couple current MW teams left out of the PAC absorbing the MW and those left over could head into the current CUSA, they have plenty of spots available.

That's not happening. PAC-10 has already told Boise no once. They sure as hell not going to take the likes of Nevada, NM, or San Jose st.

There are so many potential scenarios that could happen between the Pac-12, Big 12, Big 10, MWC, and AAC.... it's almost pointless to try and predict what could happen.

I do believe the SBC is safe, no matter what happens at this point. No P5 is going to come calling currently, and the AAC doesn't have the same leverage to grab our best schools. MWC obviously won't pursue Southern schools except Texas State... but losing Texas State doesn't cause the SBC to react.

I understand that the MW has “Standards.” Therefore, I see NO interest on their part in the Football Deadwood that IS TXST.

(09-14-2022 08:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 07:54 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  He is on the Playoff expansion committee and it can’t help with him leaving. G5 has one less voice in the process. Hopefully, FBS commits to an expanded playoff for 2024 with his help and gets TV contract commitments before he retires. Once the playoff contract is locked in we can breathe a little easier that things won’t be tilted more towards the P5 in terms of selection criteria and money sharing.

There's a rep from all 10 FBS Conferences plus Notre Dame on the playoff expansion committee.

there is, but the subcommittee that worked on a proposal for a year and then got shot down last year only had 4 people, one of which was Thompson and he was the only G5 voice in that subcommittee that was doing work behind the scenes and determining format, selection criteria, etc

the concerning part of him leaving his commissioner post in the MWC is that the selection criteria is admittedly flexible. As per the playoff release,

Rankings system: CFP Selection Committee will continue to determine weekly rankings with criteria to be reevaluated

let's hope things get locked in before Dec 31st so at least one voice of reason is helping make playoff decisions that will be in place for the next decade.

(09-14-2022 07:32 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 06:55 PM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 06:35 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(09-14-2022 06:30 PM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Oh crap, what does that mean for us

Not sure it means anything to us, directly. I expect this to mean that the PAC12 is about to be all but picked apart by the B1G and Big XII and the two remaining PAC absorbs the MW, in entirety. No more MW, which helps in the top 6 conference champs making the playoffs when there is one less FBS conference.

Could actually see a couple current MW teams left out of the PAC absorbing the MW and those left over could head into the current CUSA, they have plenty of spots available.

That's not happening. PAC-10 has already told Boise no once. They sure as hell not going to take the likes of Nevada, NM, or San Jose st.

There are so many potential scenarios that could happen between the Pac-12, Big 12, Big 10, MWC, and AAC.... it's almost pointless to try and predict what could happen.

I do believe the SBC is safe, no matter what happens at this point. No P5 is going to come calling currently, and the AAC doesn't have the same leverage to grab our best schools. MWC obviously won't pursue Southern schools except Texas State... but losing Texas State doesn't cause the SBC to react.

Why would any of the 14 SBC schools want to leave unless they were invited to a P-5 conference?

Maybe he is just retiring?

UTEP, NMSU and Tulsa are the only schools that make sense to the MW. We need to hope AF and Boise etc don't want to join the AAC. I doubt they would with the recent defections, but you never know.

I could see UNLV, Co St, SDSU, NM, AF, Wy, Boise all given a look by the PAC. If the PAC takes only 2-4, the MW is still a much better conference than CUSA, (and probably the AAC) and if I were UTEP, NMSU or Tulsa I'd jump at the chance.

(09-14-2022 06:55 PM)Johns1124 Wrote:  PAC-10 has already told Boise no once. They sure as hell not going to take the likes of Nevada, NM, or San Jose st.

PAC-12 ain’t gonna be in a position to be picky about who they add. This is gonna be a “Are you a warm body? Great! You’re in!”-type situation.