(08-31-2022 11:01 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I keep hearing from a lot of UNC people that losing Saturday will be an embarrassment to their program, or even disastrous. This is strange, since we beat them just three years ago. They ended up having a typical UNC season after we won in 2019, finishing around 7-6 with a win over Temple in the Military Bowl. They were able to maintain and continue to recruit 4 and 5 star players, despite losing to App.

So what making this any different than 2019? Why would this one be so much more embarrassing or disastrous. App is consistently a top 50 program. Would UNC fans feel this way about a loss to Houston, UCF, or Boise? Maybe the embarrassment is more personal? Maybe these fans just can't face the possibility that App might do it again. UNC's program will survive no matter what happens Saturday. If we win, UNC's arrogance and pomposity towards App might not. Then again.......

Ehh it makes some sense. It's not a massive embarrassment like if they'd lost to FAMU, but if Google didn't mislead me this would make App 2-1 in the all-time series and 2-0 since 1940. It would really help App claim top football program in the state, or at least superior to UNC, instead of UNC taking wins in 2022 and 2023 so they can just call 2019 a one-off.

(08-31-2022 11:01 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I keep hearing from a lot of UNC people that losing Saturday will be an embarrassment to their program, or even disastrous. This is strange, since we beat them just three years ago. They ended up having a typical UNC season after we won in 2019, finishing around 7-6 with a win over Temple in the Military Bowl. They were able to maintain and continue to recruit 4 and 5 star players, despite losing to App.

So what making this any different than 2019? Why would this one be so much more embarrassing or disastrous. App is consistently a top 50 program. Would UNC fans feel this way about a loss to Houston, UCF, or Boise? Maybe the embarrassment is more personal? Maybe these fans just can't face the possibility that App might do it again. UNC's program will survive no matter what happens Saturday. If we win, UNC's arrogance and pomposity towards App might not. Then again.......

For UNC, 2019 was year 1 of a Mac Brown rebuild. An early season loss to a G5 in a rebuild year will be more accepted than a G5 loss in year 4 of the Mac Brown era that has been "Dominating" the recruiting circuit. I think for a lot of UNC fans, they feel Carolina should weather the storm of the Sam Howell loss with what Mac has been able to do on the recruiting trail. From a "talent" stand point, UNC should beat any G5.
Granted, this is what many P5 fans think.
Many UNC, & State, fans don't like playing App because the rist (losing) doesn't meet the reward (beating a G5). Ultimately, it is never a good look for a P5 team to lose to a G5, unless there is a '#' next to the name.

(08-31-2022 01:13 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 11:01 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I keep hearing from a lot of UNC people that losing Saturday will be an embarrassment to their program, or even disastrous. This is strange, since we beat them just three years ago. They ended up having a typical UNC season after we won in 2019, finishing around 7-6 with a win over Temple in the Military Bowl. They were able to maintain and continue to recruit 4 and 5 star players, despite losing to App.

So what making this any different than 2019? Why would this one be so much more embarrassing or disastrous. App is consistently a top 50 program. Would UNC fans feel this way about a loss to Houston, UCF, or Boise? Maybe the embarrassment is more personal? Maybe these fans just can't face the possibility that App might do it again. UNC's program will survive no matter what happens Saturday. If we win, UNC's arrogance and pomposity towards App might not. Then again.......

Ehh it makes some sense. It's not a massive embarrassment like if they'd lost to FAMU, but if Google didn't mislead me this would make App 2-1 in the all-time series and 2-0 since 1940. It would really help App claim top football program in the state, or at least superior to UNC, instead of UNC taking wins in 2022 and 2023 so they can just call 2019 a one-off.

I think ECU has a three game win streak against UNC as well. They aren't all that they believe themselves to be. Neither is NC State. Absent the Jeff Compher fiasco at ECU, ECU and App State have been the two best football programs in the state since the 90's.

(08-31-2022 01:32 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 11:01 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I keep hearing from a lot of UNC people that losing Saturday will be an embarrassment to their program, or even disastrous. This is strange, since we beat them just three years ago. They ended up having a typical UNC season after we won in 2019, finishing around 7-6 with a win over Temple in the Military Bowl. They were able to maintain and continue to recruit 4 and 5 star players, despite losing to App.

So what making this any different than 2019? Why would this one be so much more embarrassing or disastrous. App is consistently a top 50 program. Would UNC fans feel this way about a loss to Houston, UCF, or Boise? Maybe the embarrassment is more personal? Maybe these fans just can't face the possibility that App might do it again. UNC's program will survive no matter what happens Saturday. If we win, UNC's arrogance and pomposity towards App might not. Then again.......

For UNC, 2019 was year 1 of a Mac Brown rebuild. An early season loss to a G5 in a rebuild year will be more accepted than a G5 loss in year 4 of the Mac Brown era that has been "Dominating" the recruiting circuit. I think for a lot of UNC fans, they feel Carolina should weather the storm of the Sam Howell loss with what Mac has been able to do on the recruiting trail. From a "talent" stand point, UNC should beat any G5.
Granted, this is what many P5 fans think.
Many UNC, & State, fans don't like playing App because the rist (losing) doesn't meet the reward (beating a G5). Ultimately, it is never a good look for a P5 team to lose to a G5, unless there is a '#' next to the name.

The P5 v. G5 is an ESPN Special. The difference between App's 4th and 5th year players and UNC's redshirt freshman and sophomores is not nearly as wide as some would have you believe. In reality, it's P2 and G8, minus Clemson.

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State

These seem to be the only programs who are invincible to G5 programs as of late.

(08-31-2022 01:39 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 01:32 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 11:01 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I keep hearing from a lot of UNC people that losing Saturday will be an embarrassment to their program, or even disastrous. This is strange, since we beat them just three years ago. They ended up having a typical UNC season after we won in 2019, finishing around 7-6 with a win over Temple in the Military Bowl. They were able to maintain and continue to recruit 4 and 5 star players, despite losing to App.

So what making this any different than 2019? Why would this one be so much more embarrassing or disastrous. App is consistently a top 50 program. Would UNC fans feel this way about a loss to Houston, UCF, or Boise? Maybe the embarrassment is more personal? Maybe these fans just can't face the possibility that App might do it again. UNC's program will survive no matter what happens Saturday. If we win, UNC's arrogance and pomposity towards App might not. Then again.......

For UNC, 2019 was year 1 of a Mac Brown rebuild. An early season loss to a G5 in a rebuild year will be more accepted than a G5 loss in year 4 of the Mac Brown era that has been "Dominating" the recruiting circuit. I think for a lot of UNC fans, they feel Carolina should weather the storm of the Sam Howell loss with what Mac has been able to do on the recruiting trail. From a "talent" stand point, UNC should beat any G5.
Granted, this is what many P5 fans think.
Many UNC, & State, fans don't like playing App because the rist (losing) doesn't meet the reward (beating a G5). Ultimately, it is never a good look for a P5 team to lose to a G5, unless there is a '#' next to the name.

The P5 v. G5 is an ESPN Special. The difference between App's 4th and 5th year players and UNC's redshirt freshman and sophomores is not nearly as wide as some would have you believe. In reality, it's P2 and G8, minus Clemson.

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State

These seem to be the only programs who are invincible to G5 programs as of late.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I think you're right.

But if you talk to most UNC & State fans, they believe they can become the "Clemson" of the ACC. Ultimately, win the ACC and make the CFP.
So in their defense, a lose to the in-state G5 school would end, or at least delay another year, those goals & aspirations.

(08-31-2022 01:47 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 01:39 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 01:32 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 11:01 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I keep hearing from a lot of UNC people that losing Saturday will be an embarrassment to their program, or even disastrous. This is strange, since we beat them just three years ago. They ended up having a typical UNC season after we won in 2019, finishing around 7-6 with a win over Temple in the Military Bowl. They were able to maintain and continue to recruit 4 and 5 star players, despite losing to App.

So what making this any different than 2019? Why would this one be so much more embarrassing or disastrous. App is consistently a top 50 program. Would UNC fans feel this way about a loss to Houston, UCF, or Boise? Maybe the embarrassment is more personal? Maybe these fans just can't face the possibility that App might do it again. UNC's program will survive no matter what happens Saturday. If we win, UNC's arrogance and pomposity towards App might not. Then again.......

For UNC, 2019 was year 1 of a Mac Brown rebuild. An early season loss to a G5 in a rebuild year will be more accepted than a G5 loss in year 4 of the Mac Brown era that has been "Dominating" the recruiting circuit. I think for a lot of UNC fans, they feel Carolina should weather the storm of the Sam Howell loss with what Mac has been able to do on the recruiting trail. From a "talent" stand point, UNC should beat any G5.
Granted, this is what many P5 fans think.
Many UNC, & State, fans don't like playing App because the rist (losing) doesn't meet the reward (beating a G5). Ultimately, it is never a good look for a P5 team to lose to a G5, unless there is a '#' next to the name.

The P5 v. G5 is an ESPN Special. The difference between App's 4th and 5th year players and UNC's redshirt freshman and sophomores is not nearly as wide as some would have you believe. In reality, it's P2 and G8, minus Clemson.

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State

These seem to be the only programs who are invincible to G5 programs as of late.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I think you're right.

But if you talk to most UNC & State fans, they believe they can become the "Clemson" of the ACC. Ultimately, win the ACC and make the CFP.
So in their defense, a lose to the in-state G5 school would end, or at least delay another year, those goals & aspirations.

A loss to anyone would do it. They could lose to Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, ND, App, ECU, any team and that dream would be over as well. NC State or UNC would need to be undefeated to get to the CFP.

(08-31-2022 01:51 PM)Goronic Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 01:47 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 01:39 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 01:32 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 11:01 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I keep hearing from a lot of UNC people that losing Saturday will be an embarrassment to their program, or even disastrous. This is strange, since we beat them just three years ago. They ended up having a typical UNC season after we won in 2019, finishing around 7-6 with a win over Temple in the Military Bowl. They were able to maintain and continue to recruit 4 and 5 star players, despite losing to App.

So what making this any different than 2019? Why would this one be so much more embarrassing or disastrous. App is consistently a top 50 program. Would UNC fans feel this way about a loss to Houston, UCF, or Boise? Maybe the embarrassment is more personal? Maybe these fans just can't face the possibility that App might do it again. UNC's program will survive no matter what happens Saturday. If we win, UNC's arrogance and pomposity towards App might not. Then again.......

For UNC, 2019 was year 1 of a Mac Brown rebuild. An early season loss to a G5 in a rebuild year will be more accepted than a G5 loss in year 4 of the Mac Brown era that has been "Dominating" the recruiting circuit. I think for a lot of UNC fans, they feel Carolina should weather the storm of the Sam Howell loss with what Mac has been able to do on the recruiting trail. From a "talent" stand point, UNC should beat any G5.
Granted, this is what many P5 fans think.
Many UNC, & State, fans don't like playing App because the rist (losing) doesn't meet the reward (beating a G5). Ultimately, it is never a good look for a P5 team to lose to a G5, unless there is a '#' next to the name.

The P5 v. G5 is an ESPN Special. The difference between App's 4th and 5th year players and UNC's redshirt freshman and sophomores is not nearly as wide as some would have you believe. In reality, it's P2 and G8, minus Clemson.

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State

These seem to be the only programs who are invincible to G5 programs as of late.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I think you're right.

But if you talk to most UNC & State fans, they believe they can become the "Clemson" of the ACC. Ultimately, win the ACC and make the CFP.
So in their defense, a lose to the in-state G5 school would end, or at least delay another year, those goals & aspirations.

A loss to anyone would do it. They could lose to Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, ND, App, ECU, any team and that dream would be over as well. NC State or UNC would need to be undefeated to get to the CFP.

Well let's hope ECU and App take care of business and that UNC and NCSU do the same the rest of the year. Though any other year I'd hope they both lose every game they play.

(08-31-2022 01:51 PM)Goronic Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 01:47 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 01:39 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 01:32 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 11:01 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I keep hearing from a lot of UNC people that losing Saturday will be an embarrassment to their program, or even disastrous. This is strange, since we beat them just three years ago. They ended up having a typical UNC season after we won in 2019, finishing around 7-6 with a win over Temple in the Military Bowl. They were able to maintain and continue to recruit 4 and 5 star players, despite losing to App.

So what making this any different than 2019? Why would this one be so much more embarrassing or disastrous. App is consistently a top 50 program. Would UNC fans feel this way about a loss to Houston, UCF, or Boise? Maybe the embarrassment is more personal? Maybe these fans just can't face the possibility that App might do it again. UNC's program will survive no matter what happens Saturday. If we win, UNC's arrogance and pomposity towards App might not. Then again.......

For UNC, 2019 was year 1 of a Mac Brown rebuild. An early season loss to a G5 in a rebuild year will be more accepted than a G5 loss in year 4 of the Mac Brown era that has been "Dominating" the recruiting circuit. I think for a lot of UNC fans, they feel Carolina should weather the storm of the Sam Howell loss with what Mac has been able to do on the recruiting trail. From a "talent" stand point, UNC should beat any G5.
Granted, this is what many P5 fans think.
Many UNC, & State, fans don't like playing App because the rist (losing) doesn't meet the reward (beating a G5). Ultimately, it is never a good look for a P5 team to lose to a G5, unless there is a '#' next to the name.

The P5 v. G5 is an ESPN Special. The difference between App's 4th and 5th year players and UNC's redshirt freshman and sophomores is not nearly as wide as some would have you believe. In reality, it's P2 and G8, minus Clemson.

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State

These seem to be the only programs who are invincible to G5 programs as of late.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I think you're right.

But if you talk to most UNC & State fans, they believe they can become the "Clemson" of the ACC. Ultimately, win the ACC and make the CFP.
So in their defense, a lose to the in-state G5 school would end, or at least delay another year, those goals & aspirations.

A loss to anyone would do it. They could lose to Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, ND, App, ECU, any team and that dream would be over as well. NC State or UNC would need to be undefeated to get to the CFP.

I disagree. A 1 loss ACC Champ could make the CFP depending on who that loss is to and how many other 1 loss P5 Champs there are.

UNC went 6-7 last year with the best QB they have ever had, in his senior season. Without him, they win 2 or 3 games. One of two things are true: Their alleged talent is overrated as a result of the players’ commitment to UNC. Or their coaching staff is terrible. I believe it’s a little if both. I believe their defense should improve from 98th last season, but I expect their offense to fall off some with Drake Maye, unless he ends up better better than UNC’s GOAT.

(09-01-2022 07:05 AM)APPrising Wrote:  UNC went 6-7 last year with the best QB they have ever had, in his senior season. Without him, they win 2 or 3 games. One of two things are true: Their alleged talent is overrated as a result of the players’ commitment to UNC. Or their coaching staff is terrible. I believe it’s a little if both. I believe their defense should improve from 98th last season, but I expect their offense to fall off some with Drake Maye, unless he ends up better better than UNC’s GOAT.

My fear is all that talent finally plays up to its potential in our game, ie: their entire defensive line are 5 star, as far as Maye, we didn’t learn much from the first game in terms of throwing under pressure, facing a more complex defense, and throwing into a tight window, we will find out something this weekend. However what really scares me if Mac takes a page from what Miami did in the first quarter and try’s some crazy formation, no huddle offense etc, to test how quickly our inexperienced coaching staff in such a big game makes the necessary, quick adjustments. Remember Miami went to a no huddle offense for 2 or 3 series, and we were really slow to adjusts, by the time we finally did, it was too late and we were down , I believe 3 scores. We have to be prepared as much as possible they install something on both sides of the ball just for this game.

Happy 34-32 day friends! 15 years ago today.

This game is #2 on the Hero Sport's list of the best 5 G5 games:
https://herosports.com/fbs-2022-best-gro...ek-1-bcbc/

Could see this game drawing tons of viewers and great media ratings.

Beat UNCch!!

To hell with all the flagships. Let’s kick their asses and drink from mason jars.

Rumor that Josh Downs, arguably UNC’s best player, may be out with an injury this Saturday

(09-02-2022 09:59 AM)APPrising Wrote:  Rumor that Josh Downs, arguably UNC’s best player, may be out with an injury this Saturday

I'm hearing this too. Nothing definite on Grimes, however, playing a week after a concussion seems like a thing of the past.

Most things I'm seeing say Grimes will play and Downs will not. But after someone with a torn ACL played against us I don't count anyone out of the game until it happens.

(08-29-2022 05:19 PM)Goronic Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 05:06 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  APP was the favorite yesterday at -1.5. Seeing APP at -1 now.

I think when App State played UNC back in 2019. The spread went back and forth by 3 points on each side of even before I think it landed on App -1 I think.

Here is the condensed game on YouTube of the last match up between UNC and App State. Final Score: App State 34, UNC 31.

Highly satisfying to watch. Thank you for sharing.

I was locked in a Twitter battle with a Carolina fan who kept saying “super bowl super bowl super bowl”. I replied “this dummy doesn’t realize this is college football, there are no Super Bowls”. Then he started whining that i was “resorting to name calling”. These people make it so easy to hate them.

About to head up the mountain. Good luck this weekend brothers. Go App!!!

(09-01-2022 09:38 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Happy 34-32 day friends! 15 years ago today.

Someone listens to BGP.