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Judge Rejects Department of Justice's Argument to Seal Entire Mar-a-Lago Affadavit
Quote:In a Monday morning ruling, the Department of Justice lost its bid to keep the Mar-a-Lago raid affidavit sealed, with the presiding judge calling the raid “unprecedented” and giving the DOJ until later this week to offer redactions.

The ruling, which was expected but not formally handed down until today, takes note of the historical nature of the raid of a former President’s home.

“Particularly given the intense public and historical interest in an unprecedented search of a former President’s residence,” Judge Bruce Reinhart wrote, “the Government has not yet shown that these administrative concerns are sufficient to justify sealing.”

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Reinhart said he has given the Justice Department an “opportunity to propose redaction,” something he granted last week, giving the government a deadline of Thursday, Aug. 25 at noon.

“Accordingly, it is hereby ORDERED that by the deadline, the Government shall file under seal a submission addressing possible redactions and providing any additional evidence or legal argument that the Government believes relevant to the pending Motions to Unseal,” the motion states.

Reinhart, during a highly anticipated hearing in the West Palm Beach Division of Florida last Thursday, said that the entire affidavit should not be kept under seal, despite the Justice Department’s argument that the release would jeopardize future steps in the investigation and provide a “roadmap” for the probe.

Now, it’s still likely that the Justice Department’s redactions could render what is released meaningless, but the ruling is a victory in attempting to expose the rationale behind the raid. There have been multiple reports as to what the FBI was looking for, and Republicans have been demanding more transparency over the unprecedented nature of the raid.

If the Justice Department submits redactions that the judge feels aren’t proper, he will offer his own redactions. However, the DOJ can object to the judge’s determination of what should or shouldn’t be redacted. The FBI says they are worried that the details of their investigation becoming public will affect their investigation, particularly where interviewing persons of interest are concerned.

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RE: Judge Rejects Department of Justice's Argument to Seal Entire Mar-a-Lago Affadavit
This is news given the judges comments last week? Seriously? All this is is the official signed paper coming from the couort repeating the judge's verbal ruling last week.

Hold the presses for this.....
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(08-22-2022 11:15 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  This is news given the judges comments last week? Seriously? All this is is the official signed paper coming from the couort repeating the judge's verbal ruling last week.

Hold the presses for this.....

Sounds like the DOJ appealed it and it was ruled to stay in affect as of this morning.
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RE: Judge Rejects Department of Justice's Argument to Seal Entire Mar-a-Lago Affadavit
(08-22-2022 11:15 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  This is news given the judges comments last week? Seriously? All this is is the official signed paper coming from the couort repeating the judge's verbal ruling last week.

Hold the presses for this.....

Yes, it means the judge failed to sign the order on Friday, and one of the judicial watch'es attorneys likely caught it and reminded him to sign it this morning. Otherwise, We would have gotten to the end of the week and the DOJ would have said "There's no signed order", thereby getting another week to submit their redactions.

So stall technique number 1 was averted.

What will happen now is that the DOJ will over-redact, the judge will remove some redations, the DOJ will appeal, and this will get drug out.

Because clearly the affidavit is bad for Trump, or some sort of nonsense thats being pimped.
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RE: Judge Rejects Department of Justice's Argument to Seal Entire Mar-a-Lago Affadavit
Releasing the info would stoke violence against the FBI and DOJ
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RE: Judge Rejects Department of Justice's Argument to Seal Entire Mar-a-Lago Affadavit
(08-22-2022 11:15 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  This is news given the judges comments last week? Seriously? All this is is the official signed paper coming from the couort repeating the judge's verbal ruling last week.

Hold the presses for this.....

I would say an official ruling on the matter is news, yes. It doesn't surprise me in the least though, that you would attempt to minimize this as it rains on your opinion parade on the matter.

The bootie holes at the DOJ are likely squeezing a little tighter this morning.
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RE: Judge Rejects Department of Justice's Argument to Seal Entire Mar-a-Lago Affadavit
(08-22-2022 11:33 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(08-22-2022 11:15 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  This is news given the judges comments last week? Seriously? All this is is the official signed paper coming from the couort repeating the judge's verbal ruling last week.

Hold the presses for this.....

Sounds like the DOJ appealed it and it was ruled to stay in affect as of this morning.


Judge gave his verbal ruling late last week.... and until a signed order is put into the record that verbal order is of no real consequence. This is the Judge making his ruling formal and in the record.

Nothing really important about this. Wholly expected.
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RE: Judge Rejects Department of Justice's Argument to Seal Entire Mar-a-Lago Affadavit
(08-22-2022 11:53 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  [quote='tanqtonic' pid='18386186' dateline='1661184919']
This is news given the judges comments last week? Seriously? All this is is the official signed paper coming from the couort repeating the judge's verbal ruling last week.

Hold the presses for this.....

Quote:The bootie holes at the DOJ are likely squeezing a little tighter this morning.

They probably are.

Quote:I would say an official ruling on the matter is news, yes.

I take it you wouldnt be concerned that 99.9999% of verbal rulings get followed up in a formal order the same manner as they are stated from the bench. Good for you. Quite the interesting take. Lolz.

Quote:It doesn't surprise me in the least though, that you would attempt to minimize this as it rains on your opinion parade on the matter.

Nothing really important about this. Wholly expected.

That is except Sir B_Hawk of the Pinhead clan somehow wants to make it otherwise in order to express his stupid maddy poo side. Got it. Maybe one day you might recognize what a jacktard comment this is. My bet is not.

Yes, this formal filing so 'rains on my parade' since I wholly expected a judge to to self-reverse himself on a verbal order. Geezus Krist on Cracker, its like you simply like to extend yourself to be an ad hom pinhead. I'll give you an 8/10 on this one. Double lolz.
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RE: Judge Rejects Department of Justice's Argument to Seal Entire Mar-a-Lago Affadavit
The original story told through the media was that the FBI raid was about retrieving documents that the National Archives wanted in its custody. As I wrote at the time, that wasn't the reason, that was the pretext.

And AG Garland is admitting as much by trying to keep the affidavit classified after agreeing to declassify the search warrant.

The Justice Department said in court documents Monday that it opposes the release of the FBI affidavit used to justify the search warrant on former President Donald Trump's primary residence at Mar-a-Lago.
Because the documents are classified? Nope.

In Monday's filing, prosecutors indicated that the affidavit contained sensitive information regarding the testimony of witnesses in the investigation, adding later they feared that releasing the requested documents would "chill" the future testimony of other potential witnesses.
While the Justice Department did not oppose the release of the search warrant last week, the department argued Monday in a court filing to the U.S. District Court in the Southern District of Florida that the affidavit should remain sealed "to protect the integrity of an ongoing law enforcement investigation that implicates national security."

The investigation isn't about returning documents. It's about maintaining their informants and keeping a political investigation going.

But while the Justice Department has "carefully considered whether the affidavit can be released subject to redactions," it said in Monday's court filing that "the redactions necessary to mitigate harms to the integrity of the investigation would be so extensive as to render the remaining unsealed text devoid of meaningful content, and the release of such a redacted version would not serve any public interest."
That is some statement. Everything has to be kept secret, not because it's classified information being kept hidden from the enemy, but because it's being kept secret from the target of its investigation, Trump and his associates.

If disclosed, the affidavit would serve as a roadmap to the government’s ongoing investigation, providing specific details about its direction and likely course, in a manner that is highly likely to compromise future investigative steps,” the department wrote in its filing.
It's all about the next steps. The raid was a means, not an end, to gather material for a political witch hunt by the Biden administration.

Justice Department officials have defended the Mar-a-Lago search as a necessary step approved by Mr. Garland himself. People familiar with the Justice Department’s approach have said a primary goal of the search was to ensure the security of highly sensitive national-security documents after the Trump team didn’t relinquish them and amid concerns that the security of the material at Mar-a-Lago had been put at risk.
Justice Department officials have just admitted that's a bunch of lies.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2022/...reenfield/
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