1. 20 Second pitch clock will now be enforced without warnings.

2. Only 1 step off or fake throw to first per batter. After that its a balk.

3. Coaches can no longer cross the foul line to have a conversation with an umpire.

4. Team Celebration props can no longer leave the dugout.

5. Pending conference approval, A runner will be placed on 2nd base to start extra innings in the regular season.

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2022/7/15/medi...iAOueKu4cU

1. Have no problem with that as long as it is only when bases are empty.

2. Stupid, now that runner will have an advantage.

3. Whatever, kind of a stupid rule. Just seems like the umpires could bait a coach into crossing that foul line so can throw them out.

4. Props, especially in softball, get a little out of control.

5. Still not sure how I feel about it in MLB, but I haven’t hated it. So I think I’m ok with the runner on second to promote the end of the game. Ok in regular season, but in tournament play, leave that runner in the dugout.

I think a rule should be added that a batter can’t back out of the box between every pitch to adjust all their body armor, also, if you hit with that crap on, you run the bases with it on. Cut out the time for them to undress themselves of all that gear.

I'm not one of those purists that complains that baseball isn't baseball unless a pitcher has to throw 4 pitches away from the plate for an intentional walk, but I'm not a fan of the free runner in extra innings. The tie-breaker of any sport should resemble that sport as much as possible.

There's no bleepin' reason that pitching changes and inning transitions need to take as long as they do. Speed those up if you want to speed up the game.

(07-16-2022 05:06 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I'm not one of those purists that complains that baseball isn't baseball unless a pitcher has to throw 4 pitches away from the plate for an intentional walk, but I'm not a fan of the free runner in extra innings. The tie-breaker of any sport should resemble that sport as much as possible.

There's no bleepin' reason that pitching changes and inning transitions need to take as long as they do. Speed those up if you want to speed up the game.

Well, speeding up a regular game is one thing, but speeding up a tied game is some thing very different. So I’d be all in for the new OT rule.

(07-16-2022 02:41 PM)Usajags Wrote:  I think a rule should be added that a batter can’t back out of the box between every pitch to adjust all their body armor, also, if you hit with that crap on, you run the bases with it on. Cut out the time for them to undress themselves of all that gear.

I agree with both parts. If your going to penalize the pitcher and make him throw faster, the batter should get less leeway in the crap they do too. Especially taking the gear off and walking it back to the first base coach. I also don't mind the attempts to make the ge move along a little faster.

I'm not sure there need to be any changes made. I do agree with the sentiment of the batters seeming to need to step out to spit, tighten their gloves, adjust their arm guard and swing the bat a few times between pitches though.

(07-16-2022 11:51 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  1. 20 Second pitch clock will now be enforced without warnings.

2. Only 1 step off or fake throw to first per batter. After that its a balk.

3. Coaches can no longer cross the foul line to have a conversation with an umpire.

4. Team Celebration props can no longer leave the dugout.

5. Pending conference approval, A runner will be placed on 2nd base to start extra innings in the regular season.

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2022/7/15/medi...iAOueKu4cU

1. I'm ok with this.

2. I think the penalty is a ball, not a balk. Also, the rule also applies to the offense. If a player on offense isn't ready to go within 20 seconds, it's a strike.

3. Not a fan. If you want to question a call, the umpire has to come and talk to you and he's not obligated to do so. Oh, those poor officials. We have to do something to protect them from the big bad coaches.

4. Call this the Virginia Tech rule. Their sledgehammer was banned during the NCAA tournament and their players were pretty vocal about it.

5. I don't see a way in hell that SBC coaches would vote for this. We'll see.

Agree with those who are saying that if a pitcher is forced to speed up, the batter should as well. I know though that in basketball, guys develop free throw routines, and that those routines actually help them at the line. Muscle memory kicks in, and it helps to reduce stress in pressure situations.

Is it the same in baseball with pitchers on the mound, and batters at the plate? If it is, then those who've always had a slower, more methodical routine, might experience a decline in their performance, at least in the short term. When you've been doing something a certain way for many years, it could throw you off for a while when you're forced to change. Or do you guys think it won't have that big an effect? I'm not the biggest baseball fan in the world, and am really asking out of genuine curiosity.

The only other caveat I'll add with the routines of pitchers is that catchers giving them signs, and coaches giving catchers instructions all play a part as well. So I guess that lessening time between pitches will affect that entire interplay as well.

(07-16-2022 11:51 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  1. 20 Second pitch clock will now be enforced without warnings.

2. Only 1 step off or fake throw to first per batter. After that its a balk.

3. Coaches can no longer cross the foul line to have a conversation with an umpire.

4. Team Celebration props can no longer leave the dugout.

5. Pending conference approval, A runner will be placed on 2nd base to start extra innings in the regular season.

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2022/7/15/medi...iAOueKu4cU

1. no big issue if the clock starts when the batter PLANTS in the box ... that's plenty of time ... especially with 'silent calls' from catcher to pitcher ... it's already made a difference in mlb from those coming from the minors...

also, it's more the batter being the problem than the pitcher ... some of these guys are so adhd, it's beyond annoying with all their quirky blah-blah-blahs ... just grab your crotch and get back in the box, son...

2. ref: Usajags response

3. don't care

4. don't care

5. easily the one I despise the most ... it's a tard arse method to end a hard-fought game ... this ain' football

1. Fine with it as long as batters are held accountable too.
2. Pitchers will just adjust and do the lazy throw to first instead of the step off or fake throw. Not sure this rule will do any good.
3. Kind of dumb. Not sure why it’s needed.
4. Fine with it.
5. Dumb. Don’t like it in the MLB so obviously I’m not gonna like it here. I’d prefer not having it at all, but I’d be less opposed if it was used as a last step tiebreaker like how football does with the OT rules, and start with placing the runner on 1st, not 2nd. Only implement after 2-3 extra innings of play, then do the runner on 1st. If that doesn’t end things after 2-3 innings, then start the innings with the runner on 2nd. So in that scenario you’d have regular extra innings in the 10th and 11th, extra innings where the runner starts on 1st in the 12th and 13th, and then extra innings where the runner starts on 2nd from the 14th on.

Whatever the rules are both teams play by them. Baseball has always been a game of adjustments. So you adjust. Bob Gibson was a great pitcher. The catcher threw him the ball and he was ready to throw it back. Playing behind was much easier. Keep the batters in the box. Right now a lot of them just have nervous ticks.

(07-17-2022 11:52 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  Whatever the rules are both teams play by them. Baseball has always been a game of adjustments. So you adjust. Bob Gibson was a great pitcher. The catcher threw him the ball and he was ready to throw it back. Playing behind was much easier. Keep the batters in the box. Right now a lot of them just have nervous ticks.

Gibson also forced them to lower the mound ... @yearOfThePitcher

watch what happens when they go to robo-ump calls .... that's the one I want to see happen ... that guy is going to take Sabermetrics to an entire other level...

(07-17-2022 09:16 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  1. Fine with it as long as batters are held accountable too.
2. Pitchers will just adjust and do the lazy throw to first instead of the step off or fake throw. Not sure this rule will do any good.
3. Kind of dumb. Not sure why it’s needed.
4. Fine with it.
5. Dumb. Don’t like it in the MLB so obviously I’m not gonna like it here. I’d prefer not having it at all, but I’d be less opposed if it was used as a last step tiebreaker like how football does with the OT rules, and start with placing the runner on 1st, not 2nd. Only implement after 2-3 extra innings of play, then do the runner on 1st. If that doesn’t end things after 2-3 innings, then start the innings with the runner on 2nd. So in that scenario you’d have regular extra innings in the 10th and 11th, extra innings where the runner starts on 1st in the 12th and 13th, and then extra innings where the runner starts on 2nd from the 14th on.

The idea behind the extra inning rule honestly makes more sense in the College and Minor League games than it does in the majors. The idea is to protect pitchers arms, so they don't end up throwing crazy amounts of innings and end up with injuries before the make the Majors.

If I was honest, I'd rather the rule be used in specific circumstances. Maybe on Sunday getaway games when we have curfews and other problems. Or start it beginning in the 12th inning so we don't have teams playing all night etc.

However, as BOP mentioned, I'm not sure our coaches actually would approve such a plan, they seem to like the traditional game. Pitch Clock isn't in the SBC yet, it took instant replay forever to make it into conference play, etc.

This is the dumbest excrement I’ve ever heard of.

NCAA: Baseball rules are good. What can we do to f—- it up? You know, like we do everything else.

(07-17-2022 09:16 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  1. Fine with it as long as batters are held accountable too.
2. Pitchers will just adjust and do the lazy throw to first instead of the step off or fake throw. Not sure this rule will do any good.
3. Kind of dumb. Not sure why it’s needed.
4. Fine with it.
5. Dumb. Don’t like it in the MLB so obviously I’m not gonna like it here. I’d prefer not having it at all, but I’d be less opposed if it was used as a last step tiebreaker like how football does with the OT rules, and start with placing the runner on 1st, not 2nd. Only implement after 2-3 extra innings of play, then do the runner on 1st. If that doesn’t end things after 2-3 innings, then start the innings with the runner on 2nd. So in that scenario you’d have regular extra innings in the 10th and 11th, extra innings where the runner starts on 1st in the 12th and 13th, and then extra innings where the runner starts on 2nd from the 14th on.

Concerning #2....there was no limit as to how many times you could step off and fake throw. Now there will be. That's the rule change.

(07-16-2022 09:27 PM)HCJag Wrote:  I'm not sure there need to be any changes made. I do agree with the sentiment of the batters seeming to need to step out to spit, tighten their gloves, adjust their arm guard and swing the bat a few times between pitches though.

Not to get too far off subject but............
This type stuff has a trickle down effect. It's not just college, it's also the pros.
On my grandson's team they all do this type of stuff. They get it from seeing the pros and college kids do these little routines.
They step out after every pitch, swing their bats around and adjust their helmets and their coaches let them do it.
They're 9 and 10!!!

I know, why try to teach the kids to not do it? They are learning things that will become their routines as they get older. As a grumpy old coach, it annoys me watching it happen because I know it's their formative time.

Kaleb DeLaTorre was one of my favorite recent Jags. When he was at bat he never left the batter's box. The pitcher might throw to first or reset but DeLaTorre stayed in the box and I liked that. It was almost like he was signaling to the pitcher he wasn't backing down.

(07-17-2022 02:11 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-17-2022 09:16 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  1. Fine with it as long as batters are held accountable too.
2. Pitchers will just adjust and do the lazy throw to first instead of the step off or fake throw. Not sure this rule will do any good.
3. Kind of dumb. Not sure why it’s needed.
4. Fine with it.
5. Dumb. Don’t like it in the MLB so obviously I’m not gonna like it here. I’d prefer not having it at all, but I’d be less opposed if it was used as a last step tiebreaker like how football does with the OT rules, and start with placing the runner on 1st, not 2nd. Only implement after 2-3 extra innings of play, then do the runner on 1st. If that doesn’t end things after 2-3 innings, then start the innings with the runner on 2nd. So in that scenario you’d have regular extra innings in the 10th and 11th, extra innings where the runner starts on 1st in the 12th and 13th, and then extra innings where the runner starts on 2nd from the 14th on.

The idea behind the extra inning rule honestly makes more sense in the College and Minor League games than it does in the majors. The idea is to protect pitchers arms, so they don't end up throwing crazy amounts of innings and end up with injuries before the make the Majors.

If I was honest, I'd rather the rule be used in specific circumstances. Maybe on Sunday getaway games when we have curfews and other problems. Or start it beginning in the 12th inning so we don't have teams playing all night etc.

However, as BOP mentioned, I'm not sure our coaches actually would approve such a plan, they seem to like the traditional game. Pitch Clock isn't in the SBC yet, it took instant replay forever to make it into conference play, etc.

College bullpens are pretty large though, especially when you compare to number of games played in a given week. Typically more arms available on any given game than a major league pen. Just did a quick look at our 2022 stats and we had 14 different guys with 10+ innings. Take the weekend starters out and that’s 11 guys in the pen, and keep in mind that most of those guys were starters on their high school teams (higher workload). Most major league teams have about 6-7 guys available in the pen, as in true relievers, and then a bunch of guys on the 40 man and some type of IL. And then they’re also playing 5-6 games per week.

I mean I understand the desire to shorten games, which is why I suggested the compromise of doing the free base runner after a certain number of innings. I just don’t like doing it immediately in the 10th and having the runner on 2nd. That’s just too drastic for my liking.