Will the scheduling philosophy be something like:

8-9 conference games
3-4 OOC games against other "haves" (ex. SEC vs B10)
1 OOC game vs an FCS

OR

8-9 conference games
3-4 OOC games with a mixture of "haves" and "have nots"?
^this can be any conferences/schools that didn't make the "break away" cut all the way to FCS.

OR something else?

They have to pad those records. They'll play 2 to 3 have nots. Better teams 2. Lesser teams 3.

(07-08-2022 09:37 PM)TTT Wrote:  Will the scheduling philosophy be something like:

8-9 conference games
3-4 OOC games against other "haves" (ex. SEC vs B10)
1 OOC game vs an FCS

OR

8-9 conference games
3-4 OOC games with a mixture of "haves" and "have nots"?
^this can be any conferences/schools that didn't make the "break away" cut all the way to FCS.

OR something else?

I have been wondering the same thing. I definitely think it will be 9 conference games and one FCS tuneup.

If they are smart they let teams play 2 games against regional rivals even if they are have nots.

Will any conference games be required by the networks? How many?

(07-08-2022 09:50 PM)Huan Wrote:  Will any conference games be required by the networks? How many?

This is multi-million dollar question. The NFL now has 17 games, why?? Lots of money.

IMO when the P2 is finally settled with 20-24 teams they will play 12 games like now for a few seasons. After a period of time when the salaries of these players really start to go up, and they will, I believe the networks and schools will look at increasing the number of games. Will it be 17, probably not but I could definitely see a sincere push to go to 13 or 14.

Well in the event of a Super 5 breakaway I think you’ll see 1 game a year at most vs G5 teams and 0 against FCS. As they look more and more like NFL lite then who cares if you finish 10-2 or 9-3 but still qualify for a playoff spot and a chance to win the national championship. Teams care more about that than overall record when the money is good. In the current setup wins mean better bowls, etc so yeah it’s better to get those 11 or 12 wins.

(07-08-2022 10:13 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  Well in the event of a Super 5 breakaway I think you’ll see 1 game a year at most vs G5 teams and 0 against FCS. As they look more and more like NFL lite then who cares if you finish 10-2 or 9-3 but still qualify for a playoff spot and a chance to win the national championship. Teams care more about that than overall record when the money is good. In the current setup wins mean better bowls, etc so yeah it’s better to get those 11 or 12 wins.

I agree with this overall sentiment.

People adjust to records to whatever playoff system is in place.

Super mediocre NFL teams make it to the playoffs quite often. I saw it with my own eyes with Chicago Bears in 2020 where they somehow backed into the playoffs at 8-8 with Mitch Trubisky at QB.

If 9-3 or 8-4 gets you into the playoffs in the future, then no one will care.

Take a really hard look at the Power 5 records if you remove FCS opponents and guarantee games against really bad teams.

I'm sure there are more than a few P5s that understand that going 3-9 every year will kill fan interest.

(07-08-2022 09:37 PM)TTT Wrote:  Will the scheduling philosophy be something like:

8-9 conference games
3-4 OOC games against other "haves" (ex. SEC vs B10)
1 OOC game vs an FCS

OR

8-9 conference games
3-4 OOC games with a mixture of "haves" and "have nots"?
^this can be any conferences/schools that didn't make the "break away" cut all the way to FCS.

OR something else?

Only major rivals, Oklahoma-OSU, Oregon-OSU, etc.

(07-08-2022 10:26 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(07-08-2022 10:13 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  Well in the event of a Super 5 breakaway I think you’ll see 1 game a year at most vs G5 teams and 0 against FCS. As they look more and more like NFL lite then who cares if you finish 10-2 or 9-3 but still qualify for a playoff spot and a chance to win the national championship. Teams care more about that than overall record when the money is good. In the current setup wins mean better bowls, etc so yeah it’s better to get those 11 or 12 wins.

I agree with this overall sentiment.

People adjust to records to whatever playoff system is in place.

Super mediocre NFL teams make it to the playoffs quite often. I saw it with my own eyes with Chicago Bears in 2020 where they somehow backed into the playoffs at 8-8 with Mitch Trubisky at QB.

If 9-3 or 8-4 gets you into the playoffs in the future, then no one will care.

Exactly, it would be more like the NFL. A 9-3 SEC was much better than an 11-1 ND in 2021.

(07-08-2022 09:50 PM)Huan Wrote:  Will any conference games be required by the networks? How many?

A lot because that's where the interest lies. LSU-Wisxy was interest a few years ago but in the long run they didn't matter so there was no reason to play it. Wait until CFP for interconference matchups (except for rivals of course).

The first rule I feel will not be broken in most of our lifetimes is the "seven home game" rule. I'm going to guess the "college towns" like State College, PA, Tuscaloosa, AL, etc have come to economically on seven home games that the schools can't go back to 6H/6A now. All home and homes among the big schools will not work. Penn State and Alabama need schools that will agree to come to them without return visits. That's not each other.

(07-08-2022 10:13 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  Well in the event of a Super 5 breakaway I think you’ll see 1 game a year at most vs G5 teams and 0 against FCS. As they look more and more like NFL lite then who cares if you finish 10-2 or 9-3 but still qualify for a playoff spot and a chance to win the national championship. Teams care more about that than overall record when the money is good. In the current setup wins mean better bowls, etc so yeah it’s better to get those 11 or 12 wins.

I can see a pre-season game in mid to late August (which takes the place of a Spring game) played against anyone, but especially in state FCS or G5 schools who need a nice payday.

The 12 game regular season will be all P games because of what networks will be paying.

This way each upper tier program can sell 7 home games in a season ticket book and the networks can space out openings over 2 weeks in a time window which is usually dead for them. Win/Win

(07-08-2022 10:13 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  Well in the event of a Super 5 breakaway I think you’ll see 1 game a year at most vs G5 teams and 0 against FCS. As they look more and more like NFL lite then who cares if you finish 10-2 or 9-3 but still qualify for a playoff spot and a chance to win the national championship. Teams care more about that than overall record when the money is good. In the current setup wins mean better bowls, etc so yeah it’s better to get those 11 or 12 wins.

I see the G5 just merges back into the FCS. You just have Scholarship levels go to 85 but allow 0 but have it based on what the conference wants. Mountain West remains at 85 while Big Sky could be 70 . Pioneer is at 0 while Patriot could be at 30.

The Super 5 are at most allowed 1 game in football and 4 in basketball. If I'm the NCAA you make them a separate division and shoe horn them into already existing rules. If they don't want to remain in the NCAA then treat them like the NAIA or any of the other college organizations.

The “haves” will drop the “have nots” (AND FCS) like hot garbt

Not going happen. They are talking about FBS as a whole to break away for all sports without FCS and non-basketball conferences. The FBS schools are haves while the rest of D1 are have nots.

(07-09-2022 07:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-08-2022 10:13 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  Well in the event of a Super 5 breakaway I think you’ll see 1 game a year at most vs G5 teams and 0 against FCS. As they look more and more like NFL lite then who cares if you finish 10-2 or 9-3 but still qualify for a playoff spot and a chance to win the national championship. Teams care more about that than overall record when the money is good. In the current setup wins mean better bowls, etc so yeah it’s better to get those 11 or 12 wins.

I can see a pre-season game in mid to late August (which takes the place of a Spring game) played against anyone, but especially in state FCS or G5 schools who need a nice payday.

The 12 game regular season will be all P games because of what networks will be paying.

This way each upper tier program can sell 7 home games in a season ticket book and the networks can space out openings over 2 weeks in a time window which is usually dead for them. Win/Win

This also could work. I think upper tier G5 programs wouldn’t want to take part but teams in need of paydays to pay the bills still get to benefit from it.