(03-21-2023 11:32 PM)Adler Wrote:  Everything is going just fine. SMU should withdraw from the AAC as soon as possible to show real commitment to their new PAC rivals.

Agree, go independent and wait for the PAC approval.

I respect UConn for believing so much in their decision to go to the NBE that they had no problem thowing football under "THE BUSS".

(07-03-2022 01:54 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  1. the comment about academics is great news for the Big 12 because that means the members of the PAC 12 are still letting the idiots at Stanford, Cal, and UW drive the conference (into the ground) because UCLA and USC (and really Texas to the SEC SEC SEC) just sent a message to everyone that the highest tier of "college" sports is about money and sports and in the case of USC and UCLA it is not even about what is best for their own athlete students

2. if any conference administration or collection of university academic and athletics admins are still talking about "markets" in terms of the size of the population that happens to be near a particular team that means those people are still really really stupid and totally oblivious to what is going on here and what has been going on for a while now especially the last decade which is again good for the Big 12

3. SMU would be a really good addition to the PAC 12, but I cannot see the above three that are driving the bus towards the cliff wanting to add them.......it actually becomes worse for SMU in terms of attractiveness if they are actually meaning "markets" in terms of people that actually tune in to a game or butts in seats because the only thing more competitive than SEC SEC SEC football is the competition between dallas, Miami, and LA as to which city can have the most rabid of fair weather fans that only show up when you have been consistently winning for a number of years and they will still show up late and leave early and stand around facing away from the field or court for half of the sporting event

4. I think Rice would be a good addition, but they would need to get actual written guarantees from Rice on things like building a quality practice facility not an ugly bubble like UT has hamstrung themselves with for years (which of course is all bling bling nonsense a bubble works as well as anything for the actual purpose of practice, but is less than zero for recruiting) and Rice would probably need to add some of the lesser "no one participates in this" Olympic Sports to shore up the PAC 12 in that area

Considering that Rice looks to finally be serious about a very slow controlled growth of their student body that they have talked about for 10 years or so it is the perfect time for them to use some athletics to sell a university, but I am not sure the PAC 12 would take the risk and I am not sure Rice is ready to spend the real serious money they would need to make it happen

5. unless Tulane is going to suddenly blow up with a bunch of cash for athletics or even Tulsa (that seems to have worked through some of their financial issues, but not some of the issues that lead to that) I am not sure who else the PAC 12 would add with SMU and Rice so that makes it a non started from there

TCU and Baylor are not going to be interested and would both be even less interested if the companions were SMU and Rice or SMU, Rice, Tulane, and Tulsa because that is putting the band back together that the SWC left behind and TCU especially is not looking to get back with that band.....that is like David Lee Roth wanting to join a band with Sammy Hagar

some of this actually makes sense. this is a first I can say about any of your posts. these are strange times.

(07-04-2022 07:08 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  So much to unpack here.

For now I’ll keep it brief(!) and say:

Say what you want about our practice bubble.

But no other school in all of Division One (FCS, FBS, or P2) can offer a practice bubble surrounded by a BEER BIKE TRACK.

No one.

That alone qualifies us for entry into (the smoking ruins of) the PAC Twelve.

Beer-Bike National Champions, 60+ years straight.

PAC-4, the PAC likes changing their name to reflect conference size... at the point they'll merge with the ACC and rebrand as "The AMERICAN-PAC"

(03-22-2023 12:16 AM)Agust Wrote:  

(07-03-2022 01:54 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  1. the comment about academics is great news for the Big 12 because that means the members of the PAC 12 are still letting the idiots at Stanford, Cal, and UW drive the conference (into the ground) because UCLA and USC (and really Texas to the SEC SEC SEC) just sent a message to everyone that the highest tier of "college" sports is about money and sports and in the case of USC and UCLA it is not even about what is best for their own athlete students

2. if any conference administration or collection of university academic and athletics admins are still talking about "markets" in terms of the size of the population that happens to be near a particular team that means those people are still really really stupid and totally oblivious to what is going on here and what has been going on for a while now especially the last decade which is again good for the Big 12

3. SMU would be a really good addition to the PAC 12, but I cannot see the above three that are driving the bus towards the cliff wanting to add them.......it actually becomes worse for SMU in terms of attractiveness if they are actually meaning "markets" in terms of people that actually tune in to a game or butts in seats because the only thing more competitive than SEC SEC SEC football is the competition between dallas, Miami, and LA as to which city can have the most rabid of fair weather fans that only show up when you have been consistently winning for a number of years and they will still show up late and leave early and stand around facing away from the field or court for half of the sporting event

4. I think Rice would be a good addition, but they would need to get actual written guarantees from Rice on things like building a quality practice facility not an ugly bubble like UT has hamstrung themselves with for years (which of course is all bling bling nonsense a bubble works as well as anything for the actual purpose of practice, but is less than zero for recruiting) and Rice would probably need to add some of the lesser "no one participates in this" Olympic Sports to shore up the PAC 12 in that area

Considering that Rice looks to finally be serious about a very slow controlled growth of their student body that they have talked about for 10 years or so it is the perfect time for them to use some athletics to sell a university, but I am not sure the PAC 12 would take the risk and I am not sure Rice is ready to spend the real serious money they would need to make it happen

5. unless Tulane is going to suddenly blow up with a bunch of cash for athletics or even Tulsa (that seems to have worked through some of their financial issues, but not some of the issues that lead to that) I am not sure who else the PAC 12 would add with SMU and Rice so that makes it a non started from there

TCU and Baylor are not going to be interested and would both be even less interested if the companions were SMU and Rice or SMU, Rice, Tulane, and Tulsa because that is putting the band back together that the SWC left behind and TCU especially is not looking to get back with that band.....that is like David Lee Roth wanting to join a band with Sammy Hagar

some of this actually makes sense. this is a first I can say about any of your posts. these are strange times.

He is on to something. Need to add Ozzy Osbourne and Ronnie James Dio to make it a barbershop quartet and now we are rocking.

(03-22-2023 12:14 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(03-21-2023 11:32 PM)Adler Wrote:  Everything is going just fine. SMU should withdraw from the AAC as soon as possible to show real commitment to their new PAC rivals.

Agree, go independent and wait for the PAC approval.

That would display that they have real faith in what they are doing.