(06-24-2022 03:42 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Right now SEC and B1G are playing chess… The SEC just made a huge move over the B1G by adding Texas and OU to their already impressive league.

Dudes I think expansion isn’t yet over the B1G hand is been forced to make a similar splash move question is who will their next target/s be.

You’re up next B1G

Why would the B1G's hand be forced when they're projected to make more money than everyone even AFTER Texas and OU join the SEC? They lose money expanding now. Their "splash" was the report that they could receive a billion dollars a year.

(06-24-2022 04:52 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 04:32 PM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 03:42 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Right now SEC and B1G are playing chess… The SEC just made a huge move over the B1G by adding Texas and OU to their already impressive league.

Dudes I think expansion isn’t yet over the B1G hand is been forced to make a similar splash move question is who will their next target/s be.

You’re up next B1G

The BIG is probably only interested in raiding the ACC at this point. Getting Notre Dame and North Carolina make a lot of sense for them and their structure.

The Big wants the ultimate kill shot to the ACC in the eastern time zone of UNC, Duke, UVA and then Notre Dame. SEC wants Clemson, Va Tech, NCSU, and FSU. It's the perfect moves. Take the L off of Lover because that's what it would be for the ACC. The ACC GOR which Notre Dame signed because of Covid is very cost prohibitive so this will take time. In the meantime the board will become clearer and preemptive moves are the only hope for the ACC. I think the west is safe due to distance and a lack of interest in that region of the country for college football. You do have a few bluebloods that would qualify for the country club, but difficult to match their culture. The preemptive move for the PAC 12 is to raid the Big 12, but the urge to hang on to the past may cost the decision makers.

Or the B1G and the SEC will sign new monster deals and expansion will die. That's more likely. The Pac-12 already said that the current Big 12 members don't add present or future value to their TV deal so it has nothing to do with holding on to the past. Expanding would cost them money and disrupt their geography and culture. And the Big 12 schools will make just as much if not more money together than in the Pac-12. People project these wild social media conspiracies onto these conferences.

(06-24-2022 05:33 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 03:42 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Right now SEC and B1G are playing chess… The SEC just made a huge move over the B1G by adding Texas and OU to their already impressive league.

Dudes I think expansion isn’t yet over the B1G hand is been forced to make a similar splash move question is who will their next target/s be.

You’re up next B1G

Why would the B1G's hand be forced when they're projected to make more money than one even AFTER Texas and OU join the SEC? They lose money expanding now. Their "splash" was the report that they could receive a billion dollars a year.

Projections are meaningless… I believe when all is settled the SEC will be the highest revenue league in all of FBS… There is however one program that could match or up the B1G over SEC, Notre Dame.

(06-24-2022 08:58 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 05:33 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 03:42 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Right now SEC and B1G are playing chess… The SEC just made a huge move over the B1G by adding Texas and OU to their already impressive league.

Dudes I think expansion isn’t yet over the B1G hand is been forced to make a similar splash move question is who will their next target/s be.

You’re up next B1G

Why would the B1G's hand be forced when they're projected to make more money than one even AFTER Texas and OU join the SEC? They lose money expanding now. Their "splash" was the report that they could receive a billion dollars a year.

Projections are meaningless… I believe when all is settled the SEC will be the highest revenue league in all of FBS… There is however one program that could match or up the B1G over SEC, Notre Dame.

Projections are meaningless.....then you project the SEC's revenue. Even with Oklahoma and Texas the B1G is going to get paid more, because the projections are coming from TV industry experts close to the B1G negotiations. So yes I still believe that the B1G will remain the highest paid conference and there is no one available in expansion save for Notre Dane worth grabbing. The B1G has a different mindset then social media and sports radio, they're strengthening themselves internally instead of wildly expanding in order to "respond" to SEC expansion.

(06-24-2022 07:27 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 04:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 04:22 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  The tv money can’t be 20 mill. That would be really tough if it were that low

The way I read that is the SEC/B10 money was 20-30M more than the BXII, ACC and PAC12.

It's way too low. I don't think he's connected to the current situation. He's just guessing and $20M was a big number in yesteryear.

I prefer Tim Brando's assessment that we will be the 3rd highest paid conference. That sets the floor at about $50M.

I think a $50+M gap per year compared to SEC/Big 10 is more likely.

(06-25-2022 10:27 PM)Realigned Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 07:27 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 04:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 04:22 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  The tv money can’t be 20 mill. That would be really tough if it were that low

The way I read that is the SEC/B10 money was 20-30M more than the BXII, ACC and PAC12.

It's way too low. I don't think he's connected to the current situation. He's just guessing and $20M was a big number in yesteryear.

I prefer Tim Brando's assessment that we will be the 3rd highest paid conference. That sets the floor at about $50M.

I think a $50+M gap per year compared to SEC/Big 10 is more likely.

As Brando alluded to, it's a robust market with a lot of anxious bidders for P5 content. The Big 12 will be more than fine. So, the Big 10 and SEC will be getting the most money. That's a consolation prize for half of the losers that make up the bottom half of those leagues. The Big 12 has a good pathway every year. Just keep doing what we did last year.

(06-25-2022 11:40 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  

(06-25-2022 10:27 PM)Realigned Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 07:27 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 04:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 04:22 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  The tv money can’t be 20 mill. That would be really tough if it were that low

The way I read that is the SEC/B10 money was 20-30M more than the BXII, ACC and PAC12.

It's way too low. I don't think he's connected to the current situation. He's just guessing and $20M was a big number in yesteryear.

I prefer Tim Brando's assessment that we will be the 3rd highest paid conference. That sets the floor at about $50M.

I think a $50+M gap per year compared to SEC/Big 10 is more likely.

As Brando alluded to, it's a robust market with a lot of anxious bidders for P5 content. The Big 12 will be more than fine. So, the Big 10 and SEC will be getting the most money. That's a consolation prize for half of the losers that make up the bottom half of those leagues. The Big 12 has a good pathway every year. Just keep doing what we did last year.

lets hope

(06-26-2022 01:18 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(06-25-2022 11:40 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  

(06-25-2022 10:27 PM)Realigned Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 07:27 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 04:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  The way I read that is the SEC/B10 money was 20-30M more than the BXII, ACC and PAC12.

It's way too low. I don't think he's connected to the current situation. He's just guessing and $20M was a big number in yesteryear.

I prefer Tim Brando's assessment that we will be the 3rd highest paid conference. That sets the floor at about $50M.

I think a $50+M gap per year compared to SEC/Big 10 is more likely.

As Brando alluded to, it's a robust market with a lot of anxious bidders for P5 content. The Big 12 will be more than fine. So, the Big 10 and SEC will be getting the most money. That's a consolation prize for half of the losers that make up the bottom half of those leagues. The Big 12 has a good pathway every year. Just keep doing what we did last year.

lets hope

When is the next P5 conference up for bid after the Big 12? With the rabid demand for live sports content, anyone who sleeps will have to wait awhile (not only for one of the top FB leagues but the #1 hoops conference).

(06-26-2022 03:01 AM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  

(06-26-2022 01:18 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(06-25-2022 11:40 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  [quote='Realigned' pid='18288450' dateline='1656214059']
[quote='ArmoredUpKnight' pid='18285565' dateline='1656073658']

When is the next P5 conference up for bid after the Big 12? With the rabid demand for live sports content, anyone who sleeps will have to wait awhile (not only for one of the top FB leagues but the #1 hoops conference).

We don't really know the answer to that today. ACC is 2036, but no one has any idea how long P12 deal will be.

I would not be surprised to see the Pac, B1G, and Big 12 deals all run until about 2035/2036.

Give about 10 years of stability.

(06-25-2022 10:27 PM)Realigned Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 07:27 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 04:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 04:22 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  The tv money can’t be 20 mill. That would be really tough if it were that low

The way I read that is the SEC/B10 money was 20-30M more than the BXII, ACC and PAC12.

It's way too low. I don't think he's connected to the current situation. He's just guessing and $20M was a big number in yesteryear.

I prefer Tim Brando's assessment that we will be the 3rd highest paid conference. That sets the floor at about $50M.

I think a $50+M gap per year compared to SEC/Big 10 is more likely.

Thart's assuming no one else's contracts improve , which is unlikely.

(06-25-2022 11:40 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  

(06-25-2022 10:27 PM)Realigned Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 07:27 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 04:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 04:22 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  The tv money can’t be 20 mill. That would be really tough if it were that low

The way I read that is the SEC/B10 money was 20-30M more than the BXII, ACC and PAC12.

It's way too low. I don't think he's connected to the current situation. He's just guessing and $20M was a big number in yesteryear.

I prefer Tim Brando's assessment that we will be the 3rd highest paid conference. That sets the floor at about $50M.

I think a $50+M gap per year compared to SEC/Big 10 is more likely.

As Brando alluded to, it's a robust market with a lot of anxious bidders for P5 content. The Big 12 will be more than fine. So, the Big 10 and SEC will be getting the most money. That's a consolation prize for half of the losers that make up the bottom half of those leagues. The Big 12 has a good pathway every year. Just keep doing what we did last year.

Yep, totally agree. The market will partially straighten this out. It wouldn't surprise me if TV partners off the Big 12 and Pac-12 strong deals in order to get them to sign 10 years deals a day stabilize the TV contracts.

(06-24-2022 05:36 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 04:52 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 04:32 PM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 03:42 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Right now SEC and B1G are playing chess… The SEC just made a huge move over the B1G by adding Texas and OU to their already impressive league.

Dudes I think expansion isn’t yet over the B1G hand is been forced to make a similar splash move question is who will their next target/s be.

You’re up next B1G

The BIG is probably only interested in raiding the ACC at this point. Getting Notre Dame and North Carolina make a lot of sense for them and their structure.

The Big wants the ultimate kill shot to the ACC in the eastern time zone of UNC, Duke, UVA and then Notre Dame. SEC wants Clemson, Va Tech, NCSU, and FSU. It's the perfect moves. Take the L off of Lover because that's what it would be for the ACC. The ACC GOR which Notre Dame signed because of Covid is very cost prohibitive so this will take time. In the meantime the board will become clearer and preemptive moves are the only hope for the ACC. I think the west is safe due to distance and a lack of interest in that region of the country for college football. You do have a few bluebloods that would qualify for the country club, but difficult to match their culture. The preemptive move for the PAC 12 is to raid the Big 12, but the urge to hang on to the past may cost the decision makers.

Or the B1G and the SEC will sign new monster deals and expansion will die. That's more likely. The Pac-12 already said that the current Big 12 members don't add present or future value to their TV deal so it has nothing to do with holding on to the past. Expanding would cost them money and disrupt their geography and culture. And the Big 12 schools will make just as much if not more money together than in the Pac-12. People project these wild social media conspiracies onto these conferences.

Remember, the Big 12 5 years ago took applications on a lot of schools just to declare there's no one out there. No one can bring any value to a conference like ours. Nice press conference right? It reminded me of Achilles standing in front of his opponents army in the movie Troy asking if there was anyone out there? Nice theatrics! We've all seen Bowlsby eat crow on that one thinking he was on top of the food chain and now he's out of a job.

Notice I said how this will take time? Primarily because of a GOR. Time is on the Big Boys side and they can afford to wait patiently. IE UT and OU.

When your not on top of the hill you have to think ahead. Maybe they are or maybe they aren't. Time will tell. You can always be passive and find out at halftime of your first conference game of the season that you been raided like Big East Commissioner did. This is a cutthroat business and if your not on top you need to be thinking what will get you ahead or you will be eaten!

No one is safe except for blue blood programs in the realignment game until the final die is cast. At least till the mid 2030's when new TV rights expire, unless the breakaway was to occur with the big revenue two conferences resulting in consolidation beneath them.

(06-27-2022 02:26 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 05:36 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 04:52 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 04:32 PM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 03:42 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Right now SEC and B1G are playing chess… The SEC just made a huge move over the B1G by adding Texas and OU to their already impressive league.

Dudes I think expansion isn’t yet over the B1G hand is been forced to make a similar splash move question is who will their next target/s be.

You’re up next B1G

The BIG is probably only interested in raiding the ACC at this point. Getting Notre Dame and North Carolina make a lot of sense for them and their structure.

The Big wants the ultimate kill shot to the ACC in the eastern time zone of UNC, Duke, UVA and then Notre Dame. SEC wants Clemson, Va Tech, NCSU, and FSU. It's the perfect moves. Take the L off of Lover because that's what it would be for the ACC. The ACC GOR which Notre Dame signed because of Covid is very cost prohibitive so this will take time. In the meantime the board will become clearer and preemptive moves are the only hope for the ACC. I think the west is safe due to distance and a lack of interest in that region of the country for college football. You do have a few bluebloods that would qualify for the country club, but difficult to match their culture. The preemptive move for the PAC 12 is to raid the Big 12, but the urge to hang on to the past may cost the decision makers.

Or the B1G and the SEC will sign new monster deals and expansion will die. That's more likely. The Pac-12 already said that the current Big 12 members don't add present or future value to their TV deal so it has nothing to do with holding on to the past. Expanding would cost them money and disrupt their geography and culture. And the Big 12 schools will make just as much if not more money together than in the Pac-12. People project these wild social media conspiracies onto these conferences.

Remember, the Big 12 5 years ago took applications on a lot of schools just to declare there's no one out there. No one can bring any value to a conference like ours. Nice press conference right? It reminded me of Achilles standing in front of his opponents army in the movie Troy asking if there was anyone out there? Nice theatrics! We've all seen Bowlsby eat crow on that one thinking he was on top of the food chain and now he's out of a job.

Notice I said how this will take time? Primarily because of a GOR. Time is on the Big Boys side and they can afford to wait patiently. IE UT and OU.

When your not on top of the hill you have to think ahead. Maybe they are or maybe they aren't. Time will tell. You can always be passive and find out at halftime of your first conference game of the season that you been raided like Big East Commissioner did. This is a cutthroat business and if your not on top you need to be thinking what will get you ahead or you will be eaten!

No one is safe except for blue blood programs in the realignment game until the final die is cast. At least till the mid 2030's when new TV rights expire, unless the breakaway was to occur with the big revenue two conferences resulting in consolidation beneath them.

I agree, you're right. That's why I think that you will see the Big 12 and Pac-12 signing 10 years, or in that neighborhood, into the 2030s. To add stability especially for TV so that they don't have to constantly renew new deals every 5 to 7 years.

(06-27-2022 03:15 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 02:26 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 05:36 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 04:52 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 04:32 PM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  The BIG is probably only interested in raiding the ACC at this point. Getting Notre Dame and North Carolina make a lot of sense for them and their structure.

The Big wants the ultimate kill shot to the ACC in the eastern time zone of UNC, Duke, UVA and then Notre Dame. SEC wants Clemson, Va Tech, NCSU, and FSU. It's the perfect moves. Take the L off of Lover because that's what it would be for the ACC. The ACC GOR which Notre Dame signed because of Covid is very cost prohibitive so this will take time. In the meantime the board will become clearer and preemptive moves are the only hope for the ACC. I think the west is safe due to distance and a lack of interest in that region of the country for college football. You do have a few bluebloods that would qualify for the country club, but difficult to match their culture. The preemptive move for the PAC 12 is to raid the Big 12, but the urge to hang on to the past may cost the decision makers.

Or the B1G and the SEC will sign new monster deals and expansion will die. That's more likely. The Pac-12 already said that the current Big 12 members don't add present or future value to their TV deal so it has nothing to do with holding on to the past. Expanding would cost them money and disrupt their geography and culture. And the Big 12 schools will make just as much if not more money together than in the Pac-12. People project these wild social media conspiracies onto these conferences.

Remember, the Big 12 5 years ago took applications on a lot of schools just to declare there's no one out there. No one can bring any value to a conference like ours. Nice press conference right? It reminded me of Achilles standing in front of his opponents army in the movie Troy asking if there was anyone out there? Nice theatrics! We've all seen Bowlsby eat crow on that one thinking he was on top of the food chain and now he's out of a job.

Notice I said how this will take time? Primarily because of a GOR. Time is on the Big Boys side and they can afford to wait patiently. IE UT and OU.

When your not on top of the hill you have to think ahead. Maybe they are or maybe they aren't. Time will tell. You can always be passive and find out at halftime of your first conference game of the season that you been raided like Big East Commissioner did. This is a cutthroat business and if your not on top you need to be thinking what will get you ahead or you will be eaten!

No one is safe except for blue blood programs in the realignment game until the final die is cast. At least till the mid 2030's when new TV rights expire, unless the breakaway was to occur with the big revenue two conferences resulting in consolidation beneath them.

I agree, you're right. That's why I think that you will see the Big 12 and Pac-12 signing 10 years, or in that neighborhood, into the 2030s. To add stability especially for TV so that they don't have to constantly renew new deals every 5 to 7 years.

if the leagues sign for that long, to kinda sync up with the ACC (?), would you see the B12 and the PAC getting escalator clauses, based on viewership numbers? that allow them to avoid the current ACC quagmire, but afford the networks some stability

(06-27-2022 03:15 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 02:26 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 05:36 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 04:52 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 04:32 PM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  The BIG is probably only interested in raiding the ACC at this point. Getting Notre Dame and North Carolina make a lot of sense for them and their structure.

The Big wants the ultimate kill shot to the ACC in the eastern time zone of UNC, Duke, UVA and then Notre Dame. SEC wants Clemson, Va Tech, NCSU, and FSU. It's the perfect moves. Take the L off of Lover because that's what it would be for the ACC. The ACC GOR which Notre Dame signed because of Covid is very cost prohibitive so this will take time. In the meantime the board will become clearer and preemptive moves are the only hope for the ACC. I think the west is safe due to distance and a lack of interest in that region of the country for college football. You do have a few bluebloods that would qualify for the country club, but difficult to match their culture. The preemptive move for the PAC 12 is to raid the Big 12, but the urge to hang on to the past may cost the decision makers.

Or the B1G and the SEC will sign new monster deals and expansion will die. That's more likely. The Pac-12 already said that the current Big 12 members don't add present or future value to their TV deal so it has nothing to do with holding on to the past. Expanding would cost them money and disrupt their geography and culture. And the Big 12 schools will make just as much if not more money together than in the Pac-12. People project these wild social media conspiracies onto these conferences.

Remember, the Big 12 5 years ago took applications on a lot of schools just to declare there's no one out there. No one can bring any value to a conference like ours. Nice press conference right? It reminded me of Achilles standing in front of his opponents army in the movie Troy asking if there was anyone out there? Nice theatrics! We've all seen Bowlsby eat crow on that one thinking he was on top of the food chain and now he's out of a job.

Notice I said how this will take time? Primarily because of a GOR. Time is on the Big Boys side and they can afford to wait patiently. IE UT and OU.

When your not on top of the hill you have to think ahead. Maybe they are or maybe they aren't. Time will tell. You can always be passive and find out at halftime of your first conference game of the season that you been raided like Big East Commissioner did. This is a cutthroat business and if your not on top you need to be thinking what will get you ahead or you will be eaten!

No one is safe except for blue blood programs in the realignment game until the final die is cast. At least till the mid 2030's when new TV rights expire, unless the breakaway was to occur with the big revenue two conferences resulting in consolidation beneath them.

I agree, you're right. That's why I think that you will see the Big 12 and Pac-12 signing 10 years, or in that neighborhood, into the 2030s. To add stability especially for TV so that they don't have to constantly renew new deals every 5 to 7 years.

It very well may settle a while, but the clock is always ticking. The true problem is governance and lower revenue conferences don't have the same needs as the higher revenue. That disparity within the P5 will create further realignment because of different priorities, competitive desires, and greed. The last reason you can always count on and your never safe when your not a blue blood.

(06-27-2022 04:32 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 03:15 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 02:26 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 05:36 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 04:52 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  The Big wants the ultimate kill shot to the ACC in the eastern time zone of UNC, Duke, UVA and then Notre Dame. SEC wants Clemson, Va Tech, NCSU, and FSU. It's the perfect moves. Take the L off of Lover because that's what it would be for the ACC. The ACC GOR which Notre Dame signed because of Covid is very cost prohibitive so this will take time. In the meantime the board will become clearer and preemptive moves are the only hope for the ACC. I think the west is safe due to distance and a lack of interest in that region of the country for college football. You do have a few bluebloods that would qualify for the country club, but difficult to match their culture. The preemptive move for the PAC 12 is to raid the Big 12, but the urge to hang on to the past may cost the decision makers.

Or the B1G and the SEC will sign new monster deals and expansion will die. That's more likely. The Pac-12 already said that the current Big 12 members don't add present or future value to their TV deal so it has nothing to do with holding on to the past. Expanding would cost them money and disrupt their geography and culture. And the Big 12 schools will make just as much if not more money together than in the Pac-12. People project these wild social media conspiracies onto these conferences.

Remember, the Big 12 5 years ago took applications on a lot of schools just to declare there's no one out there. No one can bring any value to a conference like ours. Nice press conference right? It reminded me of Achilles standing in front of his opponents army in the movie Troy asking if there was anyone out there? Nice theatrics! We've all seen Bowlsby eat crow on that one thinking he was on top of the food chain and now he's out of a job.

Notice I said how this will take time? Primarily because of a GOR. Time is on the Big Boys side and they can afford to wait patiently. IE UT and OU.

When your not on top of the hill you have to think ahead. Maybe they are or maybe they aren't. Time will tell. You can always be passive and find out at halftime of your first conference game of the season that you been raided like Big East Commissioner did. This is a cutthroat business and if your not on top you need to be thinking what will get you ahead or you will be eaten!

No one is safe except for blue blood programs in the realignment game until the final die is cast. At least till the mid 2030's when new TV rights expire, unless the breakaway was to occur with the big revenue two conferences resulting in consolidation beneath them.

I agree, you're right. That's why I think that you will see the Big 12 and Pac-12 signing 10 years, or in that neighborhood, into the 2030s. To add stability especially for TV so that they don't have to constantly renew new deals every 5 to 7 years.

It very well may settle a while, but the clock is always ticking. The true problem is governance and lower revenue conferences don't have the same needs as the higher revenue. That disparity within the P5 will create further realignment because of different priorities, competitive desires, and greed. The last reason you can always count on and your never safe when your not a blue blood.

My response to that is if they wanted to expand they would have already. The ACC schools don't want to leave so as long as they get a solid offer they'll stay together. The Big 12 is stronger together so they're solid, same with the The Pac-12. The thing is, there really isn't a clock. We don't know of the disparity will continue to grow, a lot can happen on 10 to 15 years. If anything it will cause a decrease in realignment because the SEC and B1G would have no reason to expand and split the pie. And ESPN is not going to let the B1G and SEC rip the ACC apart. We are likely looking at stability amongst the P5for a long, long time.

To me the most crucial component is that they keep the 85 scholarship limit in place and they probably need to do something with NIL deals and allowing players to play as walk ons. As long as they keep it at 85, I don't see why Big 12 teams can't compete for championships. Saban will retire eventually and there are enough good athletes out there that the SEC isn't going to get every single one of em.

(06-27-2022 04:32 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 03:15 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-27-2022 02:26 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 05:36 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 04:52 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  The Big wants the ultimate kill shot to the ACC in the eastern time zone of UNC, Duke, UVA and then Notre Dame. SEC wants Clemson, Va Tech, NCSU, and FSU. It's the perfect moves. Take the L off of Lover because that's what it would be for the ACC. The ACC GOR which Notre Dame signed because of Covid is very cost prohibitive so this will take time. In the meantime the board will become clearer and preemptive moves are the only hope for the ACC. I think the west is safe due to distance and a lack of interest in that region of the country for college football. You do have a few bluebloods that would qualify for the country club, but difficult to match their culture. The preemptive move for the PAC 12 is to raid the Big 12, but the urge to hang on to the past may cost the decision makers.

Or the B1G and the SEC will sign new monster deals and expansion will die. That's more likely. The Pac-12 already said that the current Big 12 members don't add present or future value to their TV deal so it has nothing to do with holding on to the past. Expanding would cost them money and disrupt their geography and culture. And the Big 12 schools will make just as much if not more money together than in the Pac-12. People project these wild social media conspiracies onto these conferences.

Remember, the Big 12 5 years ago took applications on a lot of schools just to declare there's no one out there. No one can bring any value to a conference like ours. Nice press conference right? It reminded me of Achilles standing in front of his opponents army in the movie Troy asking if there was anyone out there? Nice theatrics! We've all seen Bowlsby eat crow on that one thinking he was on top of the food chain and now he's out of a job.

Notice I said how this will take time? Primarily because of a GOR. Time is on the Big Boys side and they can afford to wait patiently. IE UT and OU.

When your not on top of the hill you have to think ahead. Maybe they are or maybe they aren't. Time will tell. You can always be passive and find out at halftime of your first conference game of the season that you been raided like Big East Commissioner did. This is a cutthroat business and if your not on top you need to be thinking what will get you ahead or you will be eaten!

No one is safe except for blue blood programs in the realignment game until the final die is cast. At least till the mid 2030's when new TV rights expire, unless the breakaway was to occur with the big revenue two conferences resulting in consolidation beneath them.

I agree, you're right. That's why I think that you will see the Big 12 and Pac-12 signing 10 years, or in that neighborhood, into the 2030s. To add stability especially for TV so that they don't have to constantly renew new deals every 5 to 7 years.

It very well may settle a while, but the clock is always ticking. The true problem is governance and lower revenue conferences don't have the same needs as the higher revenue. That disparity within the P5 will create further realignment because of different priorities, competitive desires, and greed. The last reason you can always count on and your never safe when your not a blue blood.

The Big 12 will be just fine, why don’t you hop on back to the CUSAAC BOARD You are just acting like a jealous little b1tch