(06-15-2022 11:58 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:28 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:06 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:56 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:54 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Yeah, and if the Seahawk Club doesn't find some better ways to grow along with the Athletic Department, then we are going to have to face getting left behind. End of the day though, there are A LOT of athletes out there, and the P5/6s can't pay them all. So, our 'minor-league' organization is going to have to learn how to thrive off of 1st and 2nd year talent + disenfranchised athletes from the P5/6s that realized the pasture wasn't quite as green on that side of the fence. I just don't see UNCW leadership from the Chancellor level down making smart decisions that get our athletic programs to the next level. I don't even see them getting us to the level of an invite from the A10.

So what's the next level?

Depends on the sport really. Let's talk about our two major sports:

Here's some of my expectations, and feel free to disagree.

Basketball
1. Being an annual contender for the CAA title (vice just once or twice every 5-10 years).
2. Winning a 1st round matchup.
3. Updating Trask, and restoring the old bleacher section of the students (no comfy seats as they should be standing and wreaking havoc on the other team for 40+ minutes).
4. Getting funding to a level where we can pay a coach enough money to stick around after they've shown significant success to ensure sustained success.

Baseball
1. Advancing to a Super Regional
2. Updates to the field/game day experience with expectation to host a Regional.

There should be ONE major goal of the entire Athletic Department.

1. Getting the F out of the CAA.

Just trying to remember correctly…

Men’s Basketball
-4 regular season titles in last 8 years Yes, and how were the years in between?
-3 CAA Championship Game appearances
-2 Championships
-Had chance to beat Duke/Virginia Yes, because athletics giving growth succeeds with "had a chance" games
-Beat two great mid-major programs to win CBI in Siddle’s first full season He had a great season last year, and hopefully we have a winner who will stick around. I'm not debating that, but you're wanting to deflect so, whatevs.

You’re as delusional as those who think that fundraising will help compete with NC State and Carolina if you think the way to get students to the game is to restore uncomfortable seating/bleachers lmao.

What's wrong? Did you have difficulty standing for 40 minutes? Go take a look at the UNCW/Elon tape and tell me what about their new arena with padded, comfortable seats for students where they lean back and eat popcorn during the game creates a difficult environment for the opposing team? Go look at Cameron Indoor or the Dean Dome, and let me know if those students are sitting in nice, cozy seats. It's a basketball arena, and fans should be on their feet, period.

Damnit Bass!!! You and your administration haven’t taken this department where we need it. Get those wooden bleachers back and get those students on their feet. In regards to the UNCW/Elon tape and based on the final score, thank God that building isn't tough to play in. Imagine how bad our last few trips would have been in a tough environment LOL.

Yes, I’ll take our basketball program being competitive with Duke/Virginia again. I bet Siddle would too. I hope Siddle goes undefeated, makes a run through the NCAA Tournament and then gets a big job elsewhere. We’ll agree to disagree on that, because it’s time to understand that programs at this level can do whatever they want, but with the gap between major programs and mid-majors getting wider, it's impossible to hold onto coaches. The goal has to be not to lose coaches to Wright State (and like programs) like past years.

It's worse than that. We didn't lose Brownell to Wright State. He was run off by a certain group.

(06-15-2022 12:03 PM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:58 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:28 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:06 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:56 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  So what's the next level?

Depends on the sport really. Let's talk about our two major sports:

Here's some of my expectations, and feel free to disagree.

Basketball
1. Being an annual contender for the CAA title (vice just once or twice every 5-10 years).
2. Winning a 1st round matchup.
3. Updating Trask, and restoring the old bleacher section of the students (no comfy seats as they should be standing and wreaking havoc on the other team for 40+ minutes).
4. Getting funding to a level where we can pay a coach enough money to stick around after they've shown significant success to ensure sustained success.

Baseball
1. Advancing to a Super Regional
2. Updates to the field/game day experience with expectation to host a Regional.

There should be ONE major goal of the entire Athletic Department.

1. Getting the F out of the CAA.

Just trying to remember correctly…

Men’s Basketball
-4 regular season titles in last 8 years Yes, and how were the years in between?
-3 CAA Championship Game appearances
-2 Championships
-Had chance to beat Duke/Virginia Yes, because athletics giving growth succeeds with "had a chance" games
-Beat two great mid-major programs to win CBI in Siddle’s first full season He had a great season last year, and hopefully we have a winner who will stick around. I'm not debating that, but you're wanting to deflect so, whatevs.

You’re as delusional as those who think that fundraising will help compete with NC State and Carolina if you think the way to get students to the game is to restore uncomfortable seating/bleachers lmao.

What's wrong? Did you have difficulty standing for 40 minutes? Go take a look at the UNCW/Elon tape and tell me what about their new arena with padded, comfortable seats for students where they lean back and eat popcorn during the game creates a difficult environment for the opposing team? Go look at Cameron Indoor or the Dean Dome, and let me know if those students are sitting in nice, cozy seats. It's a basketball arena, and fans should be on their feet, period.

Damnit Bass!!! You and your administration haven’t taken this department where we need it. Get those wooden bleachers back and get those students on their feet. In regards to the UNCW/Elon tape and based on the final score, thank God that building isn't tough to play in. Imagine how bad our last few trips would have been in a tough environment LOL.

Yes, I’ll take our basketball program being competitive with Duke/Virginia again. I bet Siddle would too. I hope Siddle goes undefeated, makes a run through the NCAA Tournament and then gets a big job elsewhere. We’ll agree to disagree on that, because it’s time to understand that programs at this level can do whatever they want, but with the gap between major programs and mid-majors getting wider, it's impossible to hold onto coaches. The goal has to be not to lose coaches to Wright State (and like programs) like past years.

I enjoy your lack of ability to understand multiple layers of issues because you want to act ridiculous about one small thing (bleachers). At what point did I ever say that's the sole focus of the Chancellor, AD, and Seahawk Club. But sure, create your straw pillar and pretend that's the cornerstone. Do you my man. lol

There's plenty of ways and needs to upgrade Trask, and keep bleachers (nobody said they need to be wood you just have a constant desire and skill of putting words in people's mouths), keep students actively engaged, AND create a much better atmosphere throughout Trask for ALL of the fans. Especially the ones who support the program financially.

Trask needs to be massively overhauled, especially for the game-day experience in terms of a fan shop (where the department could financially benefit), real concessions (instead of a half-cocked version of a local little league stand), etc. Not capitalizing on small stuff like that makes our Athletic Dept seem like we just joined D1 yesterday and have no idea what's going on. A lot of that goes back to the inability of our school/Athletic Dept. to firm up a brand, i.e. "UNCW".

Don't take my criticisms of this stuff personally, as it's me wanting our school to DO BETTER. UNCW has an amazing opportunity to capitalize on being unique, and has really failed to do so thus far.

I do have a question for you though. You mentioned wanting Siddle to succeed and leave. Why? Why not hope that our school becomes a place he wants to stay and seriously put on the map as a big time mid major force? I don't understand that mentality. I'm hoping we get a Chancellor that improves things and wants to stay. I'm hoping whomever we hire as the next AD improves things and wants to stay, and I'm especially hoping that Siddle continues to succeed and wants to stay. Why hope he leaves?

At some point I believe we will have a successful basketball coach who chooses to stay. Maybe that will be Siddle. Not everyone always goes for the highest dollar amount or has a desire to go to the highest possible conference affiliation with all the pressure that comes with it. If a basketball coach is successful at UNCW they can live a very good life in a really nice location. They can also become a part of UNCW history and maybe end up with their name on a building. Same for an AD and Chancellor. I'd have to say that we haven't had a problem with Chancellors and AD's moving on for greener pastures.

(06-15-2022 02:59 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 12:03 PM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:58 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:28 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:06 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Depends on the sport really. Let's talk about our two major sports:

Here's some of my expectations, and feel free to disagree.

Basketball
1. Being an annual contender for the CAA title (vice just once or twice every 5-10 years).
2. Winning a 1st round matchup.
3. Updating Trask, and restoring the old bleacher section of the students (no comfy seats as they should be standing and wreaking havoc on the other team for 40+ minutes).
4. Getting funding to a level where we can pay a coach enough money to stick around after they've shown significant success to ensure sustained success.

Baseball
1. Advancing to a Super Regional
2. Updates to the field/game day experience with expectation to host a Regional.

There should be ONE major goal of the entire Athletic Department.

1. Getting the F out of the CAA.

Just trying to remember correctly…

Men’s Basketball
-4 regular season titles in last 8 years Yes, and how were the years in between?
-3 CAA Championship Game appearances
-2 Championships
-Had chance to beat Duke/Virginia Yes, because athletics giving growth succeeds with "had a chance" games
-Beat two great mid-major programs to win CBI in Siddle’s first full season He had a great season last year, and hopefully we have a winner who will stick around. I'm not debating that, but you're wanting to deflect so, whatevs.

You’re as delusional as those who think that fundraising will help compete with NC State and Carolina if you think the way to get students to the game is to restore uncomfortable seating/bleachers lmao.

What's wrong? Did you have difficulty standing for 40 minutes? Go take a look at the UNCW/Elon tape and tell me what about their new arena with padded, comfortable seats for students where they lean back and eat popcorn during the game creates a difficult environment for the opposing team? Go look at Cameron Indoor or the Dean Dome, and let me know if those students are sitting in nice, cozy seats. It's a basketball arena, and fans should be on their feet, period.

Damnit Bass!!! You and your administration haven’t taken this department where we need it. Get those wooden bleachers back and get those students on their feet. In regards to the UNCW/Elon tape and based on the final score, thank God that building isn't tough to play in. Imagine how bad our last few trips would have been in a tough environment LOL.

Yes, I’ll take our basketball program being competitive with Duke/Virginia again. I bet Siddle would too. I hope Siddle goes undefeated, makes a run through the NCAA Tournament and then gets a big job elsewhere. We’ll agree to disagree on that, because it’s time to understand that programs at this level can do whatever they want, but with the gap between major programs and mid-majors getting wider, it's impossible to hold onto coaches. The goal has to be not to lose coaches to Wright State (and like programs) like past years.

I enjoy your lack of ability to understand multiple layers of issues because you want to act ridiculous about one small thing (bleachers). At what point did I ever say that's the sole focus of the Chancellor, AD, and Seahawk Club. But sure, create your straw pillar and pretend that's the cornerstone. Do you my man. lol

There's plenty of ways and needs to upgrade Trask, and keep bleachers (nobody said they need to be wood you just have a constant desire and skill of putting words in people's mouths), keep students actively engaged, AND create a much better atmosphere throughout Trask for ALL of the fans. Especially the ones who support the program financially.

Trask needs to be massively overhauled, especially for the game-day experience in terms of a fan shop (where the department could financially benefit), real concessions (instead of a half-cocked version of a local little league stand), etc. Not capitalizing on small stuff like that makes our Athletic Dept seem like we just joined D1 yesterday and have no idea what's going on. A lot of that goes back to the inability of our school/Athletic Dept. to firm up a brand, i.e. "UNCW".

Don't take my criticisms of this stuff personally, as it's me wanting our school to DO BETTER. UNCW has an amazing opportunity to capitalize on being unique, and has really failed to do so thus far.

I do have a question for you though. You mentioned wanting Siddle to succeed and leave. Why? Why not hope that our school becomes a place he wants to stay and seriously put on the map as a big time mid major force? I don't understand that mentality. I'm hoping we get a Chancellor that improves things and wants to stay. I'm hoping whomever we hire as the next AD improves things and wants to stay, and I'm especially hoping that Siddle continues to succeed and wants to stay. Why hope he leaves?

No one’s taking your criticisms personally. Don’t take my criticisms of you thinking the priorities of updating Trask should include a fan shop, better concessions, and getting students to stand for 40 minutes through restoration of the old bleachers etc. (last time I walked in Trask, the student section has some of the most uncomfortable bleachers an arena could have in it LOL) You can build a Barnes & Noble bookstore like on-campus and a restaurant in Trask Coliseum and it’s not taking UNCW Athletics to the next level. What I’m realizing is, your definition of taking the next step is improving your game day experience…which is great, something that definitely needs to improve and I appreciate that. The band, cheer/dance, in-game promos, social media content all need to get better.

I hope Takayo Siddle has such massive success every blue blood in the country is wanting him, yes. There would be nothing better for this university. You can want to be a big time mid-major force all you want, but once again, no one at this level is going to outbid the Power 5 schools that come calling in basketball or any other sport to be quite honest. Besides Mark Few and Bob McKillop name another mid-major coach that has remained at his school and built his program from a mid-major into a high-major type program. It’s a different day in college athletics.

In regards to your thoughts that the university has failed to capitalize on being unique. We’ll agree to disagree. The coaches and administration at UNCW have gotten and continue to get every ounce out of these programs. Is there room to grow, yes, my only point is it’s time to be realistic about the future of college athletics and UNCW’s place in it. Most importantly, hopefully we all keep supporting so we can each do our little part to get us where we want to go.

(06-15-2022 03:37 PM)82hawk Wrote:  At some point I believe we will have a successful basketball coach who chooses to stay. Maybe that will be Siddle. Not everyone always goes for the highest dollar amount or has a desire to go to the highest possible conference affiliation with all the pressure that comes with it. If a basketball coach is successful at UNCW they can live a very good life in a really nice location. They can also become a part of UNCW history and maybe end up with their name on a building. Same for an AD and Chancellor. I'd have to say that we haven't had a problem with Chancellors and AD's moving on for greener pastures.

If UNCW has a coach that doesn’t have the desire to compete at the highest level, we have a problem and as much as we don’t think $$$ talks, well I sure hope we find that guy one day.

Zito ended up with his name on a building I think. Here’s to hoping Siddle hangs around long enough for his name to end up on one.

(06-15-2022 05:04 PM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 03:37 PM)82hawk Wrote:  At some point I believe we will have a successful basketball coach who chooses to stay. Maybe that will be Siddle. Not everyone always goes for the highest dollar amount or has a desire to go to the highest possible conference affiliation with all the pressure that comes with it. If a basketball coach is successful at UNCW they can live a very good life in a really nice location. They can also become a part of UNCW history and maybe end up with their name on a building. Same for an AD and Chancellor. I'd have to say that we haven't had a problem with Chancellors and AD's moving on for greener pastures.

If UNCW has a coach that doesn’t have the desire to compete at the highest level, we have a problem and as much as we don’t think $$$ talks, well I sure hope we find that guy one day.

Zito ended up with his name on a building I think. Here’s to hoping Siddle hangs around long enough for his name to end up on one.

What problem exists if a coach wants to build a successful basketball program at a great school, in a great location, even if it isn't an ACC level school in an ACC level conference? I've made choices like that in my own professional career. And Chancellors have names placed on buildings as a matter of protocol as long as they aren't complete failures, coaches don't.

(06-15-2022 05:18 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 05:04 PM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 03:37 PM)82hawk Wrote:  At some point I believe we will have a successful basketball coach who chooses to stay. Maybe that will be Siddle. Not everyone always goes for the highest dollar amount or has a desire to go to the highest possible conference affiliation with all the pressure that comes with it. If a basketball coach is successful at UNCW they can live a very good life in a really nice location. They can also become a part of UNCW history and maybe end up with their name on a building. Same for an AD and Chancellor. I'd have to say that we haven't had a problem with Chancellors and AD's moving on for greener pastures.

If UNCW has a coach that doesn’t have the desire to compete at the highest level, we have a problem and as much as we don’t think $$$ talks, well I sure hope we find that guy one day.

Zito ended up with his name on a building I think. Here’s to hoping Siddle hangs around long enough for his name to end up on one.

What problem exists if a coach wants to build a successful basketball program at a great school, in a great location, even if it isn't an ACC level school in an ACC level conference? I've made choices like that in my own professional career. And Chancellors have names placed on buildings as a matter of protocol as long as they aren't complete failures, coaches don't.

No problem at all, but per another response I had, what coaches in college basketball these days besides Mark Few at Gonzaga and Bob McKillop at Davidson have stayed to build a successful basketball program at a great school?

At some point it’s time to be realistic.

Ultimately, this thread was about Bass’ retirement from UNCW. New chancellor, new AD, probably more transition within the department and hell, most likely a new basketball coach. Many of you on here are going to get what you’ve been wanting, a fresh start that will take UNCW to the next level with a coach, administration, etc. that will hopefully be here for the long haul. Hope we find it. I’m old enough to remember the administrations before this one, the grass isn’t always greener.

Me on the other hand, I’ll take a lot of the highs we have experienced across the board since Bass and those he’s had around him have been in town.

Best of luck Jimmy! Enjoy your family. Here’s to hoping basketball season gets here quickly!

I do think Jimmy Bass has been one of the best ADs we’ve had at UNCW.

I hope he enjoys a well deserved retirement, and if he visits Arizona I’d take him golfing and we can chat concession stands, bleachers, and the next basketball coach (SeahawkHoops).


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(06-15-2022 05:29 PM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  Ultimately, this thread was about Bass’ retirement from UNCW. New chancellor, new AD, probably more transition within the department and hell, most likely a new basketball coach. Many of you on here are going to get what you’ve been wanting, a fresh start that will take UNCW to the next level with a coach, administration, etc. that will hopefully be here for the long haul. Hope we find it. I’m old enough to remember the administrations before this one, the grass isn’t always greener.

Me on the other hand, I’ll take a lot of the highs we have experienced across the board since Bass and those he’s had around him have been in town.

Best of luck Jimmy! Enjoy your family. Here’s to hoping basketball season gets here quickly!

Jimmy has created a strong foundation for out athletics program like Zito has done as Chancellor. The table is set for UNCW to step up big time over the next decade. We just need our new leaders to recognize the opportunity and set a clear path with a clear vision.

(06-15-2022 10:51 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:48 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 09:55 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 09:29 AM)Hawk81 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 08:59 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  God himself could be named the next AD or Seahawk Club director at UNCW and they're not going to raise the $$$'s needed to compete from a facility or recruiting standpoint with ACC, SEC, hell even American Athletic Conference Schools.

This is offensive.

Sorry to offend you, but it's true. Anyone in this fan base that thinks the athletic department is going to fundraise itself to competing with ACC, SEC, AAC, etc. schools consistently is delusional.

Also, if you think that's offensive, imagine how offensive some of the comments from folks on here could be to student-athletes, coaches, administrators, and their families. I was exaggerating...many on here use this as an outlet to spew nonsense with no repercussions.

What did Mike Tyson say about social media? Something about being too comfortable because people can say what they want without getting punched in the face?!

LMAO.

Yes, anyone who thinks fundraising at UNCW will be on par with ACC, SEC, AAC, etc. is definitely delusional. Although, I doubt that's what 81 found offensive.

Gary, you can pm me if you want about the spewing of nonsense. It's a college sports message board. I'd love to hear what you classify as nonsense "with no repercussions". Perhaps you folks with all the sensitive feels should go visit some message boards for teams from the ACC, SEC, AAC, etc. and see what kind of nonsense gets spewed without repercussions and then realize it's really pretty tame 'round here.

I'm not offended with anything, I'm happy to go back and forth with any one of the clowns on here as is well documented

My response was to the fact that someone's offended because I said God himself could be the AD/fundraiser and not make people on this board happy. The comment about ACC, SEC, AAC schools etc. was in response to Mullet saying we were a strategic fundraising effort away from baseball competing with Carolina and State. You're right about the other school's boards though...they're very similar to this one in that a majority of the people that are most vocal on it, aren't financially invested enough with the university itself to have a voice heard anywhere on campus. So, message board it is.

UNCW has to step it up if they want to compete with any D1 programs in NC and State/UNC are the top of the heap in baseball for the most part. There is plenty of baseball talent in NC to recruit from but without facilities close to what they have it will grow further apart , Right within 1 1/2 hour drive we have Campbell,ECU and Coastal who all have much better facilities and they are schools that UNCW should absolutely look to compete with right now . Coastal recruits a lot of northern players and Campbell is all over the place but ECU,COC,UNCG pretty much recruit the same guys in NC,SC.
NCSU baseball facilities are not great and for my money State is a dump and I would much rather go to games at UNCW right now. Maybe they will actually follow through with the plan to upgrade there but it will be State no matter what they do.
NIL issue could easily erase all this along with free agency the deal is changed right now so who knows .