(05-30-2022 11:40 AM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 11:35 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  ODU and UTSA both miss out. Clearly NCAA did not value CUSA this year.

Old Dominion in First Four out Liberty and Ole Miss got in ahead of them.

Definitely hurt. How tf does Grand Canyon get in?

I felt Ole Miss didn't deserve to get in.

They say the committee doesn’t look at “future projections”, not sure I buy it this year…

Liberty lost their ace a couple weeks ago, just got declared “out” for the remainder. And Coastal gets a 2, for what other reason than “being hot” to close the season. I mean, 1st round single elimination exit. 30s RPI as an at large.

(05-30-2022 11:46 AM)MOTIAW Wrote:  They say the committee doesn’t look at “future projections”, not sure I buy it this year…

Liberty lost there ace a couple weeks ago, just got declared “out” for the remainder. And Coastal gets a 2, for what other reason than “being hot” to close the season. I mean, 1st round single elimination exit. 30s RPI as an at large.

Coastal is a 3 on the NCAA.com bracket

(05-30-2022 11:51 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 11:46 AM)MOTIAW Wrote:  They say the committee doesn’t look at “future projections”, not sure I buy it this year…

Liberty lost there ace a couple weeks ago, just got declared “out” for the remainder. And Coastal gets a 2, for what other reason than “being hot” to close the season. I mean, 1st round single elimination exit. 30s RPI as an at large.

Coastal is a 3 on the NCAA.com bracket

I stand corrected, local news reported wrong (flipped us and UVA). Was just coming beck to amend.

(05-30-2022 11:11 AM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  Tough draw Georgia Southern paired with Tennessee regional and with Notre Dame in there but good luck!

We got a regional in spite of not winning a regular-season or tournament title and aren't going to have to face any of our in-state teams that are familiar with us.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth I guess.

(05-30-2022 12:00 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 11:51 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 11:46 AM)MOTIAW Wrote:  They say the committee doesn’t look at “future projections”, not sure I buy it this year…

Liberty lost there ace a couple weeks ago, just got declared “out” for the remainder. And Coastal gets a 2, for what other reason than “being hot” to close the season. I mean, 1st round single elimination exit. 30s RPI as an at large.

Coastal is a 3 on the NCAA.com bracket

I stand corrected, local news reported wrong (flipped us and UVA). Was just coming beck to amend.

You guys can take solace that the selection committee clearly ignored the SBC tournament this year outside of giving the winner an Auto bid. They based every decision in the league on regular season play.

Maybe if Texas State/Coastal/Georgia Southern wins the tournament, they get slightly better seeding, but even that's hard to say for sure.

In fact, I'm not sure they looked at any league tournament results nation wide.

Pulling hard for Southern Miss, Texas State, Georgia Southern, and Louisiana, too! Let's get some representation in Omaha because I'll be there in person. This is a synchronicity for Coastal in that I was just talking about having a rivalry with East Carolina and here we are heading to the Pirates' regional as the only school from SC to make it in the tournament...

(05-30-2022 12:03 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:00 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 11:51 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 11:46 AM)MOTIAW Wrote:  They say the committee doesn’t look at “future projections”, not sure I buy it this year…

Liberty lost there ace a couple weeks ago, just got declared “out” for the remainder. And Coastal gets a 2, for what other reason than “being hot” to close the season. I mean, 1st round single elimination exit. 30s RPI as an at large.

Coastal is a 3 on the NCAA.com bracket

I stand corrected, local news reported wrong (flipped us and UVA). Was just coming beck to amend.

You guys can take solace that the selection committee clearly ignored the SBC tournament this year outside of giving the winner an Auto bid. They based every decision in the league on regular season play.

Maybe if Texas State/Coastal/Georgia Southern wins the tournament, they get slightly better seeding, but even that's hard to say for sure.

In fact, I'm not sure they looked at any league tournament results nation wide.

Agree wholeheartedly!! Which shouldn’t be lost on anyone in this conference. The single elimination altered format WAS IGNORED. Because it’s a joke.

Anyone who had aspirations of hosting (Tx St), have a higher seed (whether GaSo Nationally, or Coastal Regionally) should abhor the repeated problem the Sun Belt refuses to fix.

It’s not about Coastal. But for example, we go to losers bracket and play Tx St, the winner, gets Ga So, and then a Louisiana squad that earns RPI by being winner bracket Champ… Runner up gets a HUGE boost in RPI, instead of an anchor from a one off loss.

It’s math people, not homerism.

(05-30-2022 12:11 PM)El Chanto Wrote:  Pulling hard for Southern Miss, Texas State, Georgia Southern, and Louisiana, too! Let's get some representation in Omaha because I'll be there in person. This is a synchronicity for Coastal in that I was just talking about having a rivalry with East Carolina and here we are heading to the Pirates' regional as the only school from SC to make it in the tournament...

Love being in Greenville. Been too long since the days of David Sappelt grand slams, when already up 10, to crush ECU souls.

Can’t wait.

(05-30-2022 12:13 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:03 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:00 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 11:51 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 11:46 AM)MOTIAW Wrote:  They say the committee doesn’t look at “future projections”, not sure I buy it this year…

Liberty lost there ace a couple weeks ago, just got declared “out” for the remainder. And Coastal gets a 2, for what other reason than “being hot” to close the season. I mean, 1st round single elimination exit. 30s RPI as an at large.

Coastal is a 3 on the NCAA.com bracket

I stand corrected, local news reported wrong (flipped us and UVA). Was just coming beck to amend.

You guys can take solace that the selection committee clearly ignored the SBC tournament this year outside of giving the winner an Auto bid. They based every decision in the league on regular season play.

Maybe if Texas State/Coastal/Georgia Southern wins the tournament, they get slightly better seeding, but even that's hard to say for sure.

In fact, I'm not sure they looked at any league tournament results nation wide.

Agree wholeheartedly!! Which shouldn’t be lost on anyone in this conference. The single elimination altered format WAS IGNORED. Because it’s a joke.

Anyone who had aspirations of hosting (Tx St), have a higher seed (whether GaSo Nationally, or Coastal Regionally) should abhor the repeated problem the Sun Belt refuses to fix.

It’s not about Coastal. But for example, we go to losers bracket and play Tx St, the winner, gets Ga So, and then a Louisiana squad that earns RPI by being winner bracket Champ… Runner up gets a HUGE boost in RPI, instead of an anchor from a one off loss.

It’s math people, not homerism.

You do realize that if you had gone to the Losers bracket you would have played App, right? The SBC separates its brackets in DE Format, so you could not have faced UL or Texas State until the Championship game. Your best hope would have been revenge on Troy and a chance to beat Georgia Southern twice.

Texas State was never going to have a shot at hosting. They were ranked the 3rd worst 2 seed.

Only 2 CUSA got in?? Damn I wanted ODU in

(05-30-2022 12:36 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Only 2 CUSA got in?? Damn I wanted ODU in

Our boys deserved to be in. I feel for them. Especially since a lot of our starters are seniors.

(05-30-2022 12:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:13 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:03 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:00 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 11:51 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Coastal is a 3 on the NCAA.com bracket

I stand corrected, local news reported wrong (flipped us and UVA). Was just coming beck to amend.

You guys can take solace that the selection committee clearly ignored the SBC tournament this year outside of giving the winner an Auto bid. They based every decision in the league on regular season play.

Maybe if Texas State/Coastal/Georgia Southern wins the tournament, they get slightly better seeding, but even that's hard to say for sure.

In fact, I'm not sure they looked at any league tournament results nation wide.

Agree wholeheartedly!! Which shouldn’t be lost on anyone in this conference. The single elimination altered format WAS IGNORED. Because it’s a joke.

Anyone who had aspirations of hosting (Tx St), have a higher seed (whether GaSo Nationally, or Coastal Regionally) should abhor the repeated problem the Sun Belt refuses to fix.

It’s not about Coastal. But for example, we go to losers bracket and play Tx St, the winner, gets Ga So, and then a Louisiana squad that earns RPI by being winner bracket Champ… Runner up gets a HUGE boost in RPI, instead of an anchor from a one off loss.

It’s math people, not homerism.

You do realize that if you had gone to the Losers bracket you would have played App, right? The SBC separates its brackets in DE Format, so you could not have faced UL or Texas State until the Championship game. Your best hope would have been revenge on Troy and a chance to beat Georgia Southern twice.

Texas State was never going to have a shot at hosting. They were ranked the 3rd worst 2 seed.

Yes. Semantics. The idea is even coming through the losers bracket, Coastal or Texas State, or GaSo, would’ve eventually played better teams en route to climbing out. Including, for example, having to beat a good Louisiana team twice. Yes, realize not all teams would’ve had that path. Again, it’s the idea. Over time.

Of course, they could’ve lost game 2 too. The argument is predicated on what the law of averages will typically dictate for the better teams. Simple as that.

2 spots out. Ugh.

(05-30-2022 12:40 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:36 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Only 2 CUSA got in?? Damn I wanted ODU in

Our boys deserved to be in. I feel for them. Especially since a lot of our starters are seniors.

Yes, I agree. Big dissapointment.

(05-30-2022 12:44 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:13 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:03 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:00 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  I stand corrected, local news reported wrong (flipped us and UVA). Was just coming beck to amend.

You guys can take solace that the selection committee clearly ignored the SBC tournament this year outside of giving the winner an Auto bid. They based every decision in the league on regular season play.

Maybe if Texas State/Coastal/Georgia Southern wins the tournament, they get slightly better seeding, but even that's hard to say for sure.

In fact, I'm not sure they looked at any league tournament results nation wide.

Agree wholeheartedly!! Which shouldn’t be lost on anyone in this conference. The single elimination altered format WAS IGNORED. Because it’s a joke.

Anyone who had aspirations of hosting (Tx St), have a higher seed (whether GaSo Nationally, or Coastal Regionally) should abhor the repeated problem the Sun Belt refuses to fix.

It’s not about Coastal. But for example, we go to losers bracket and play Tx St, the winner, gets Ga So, and then a Louisiana squad that earns RPI by being winner bracket Champ… Runner up gets a HUGE boost in RPI, instead of an anchor from a one off loss.

It’s math people, not homerism.

You do realize that if you had gone to the Losers bracket you would have played App, right? The SBC separates its brackets in DE Format, so you could not have faced UL or Texas State until the Championship game. Your best hope would have been revenge on Troy and a chance to beat Georgia Southern twice.

Texas State was never going to have a shot at hosting. They were ranked the 3rd worst 2 seed.

Yes. Semantics. The idea is even coming through the losers bracket, Coastal or Texas State, or GaSo, would’ve eventually played better teams en route to climbing out. Including, for example, having to beat a good Louisiana team twice. Yes, realize not all teams would’ve had that path. Again, it’s the idea. Over time.

Of course, they could’ve lost game 2 too. The argument is predicated on what the law of averages will typically dictate for the better teams. Simple as that.

To clarify though chiefsfan… just sole curiosity of your process..

Are you saying, had Texas St won the Tourney, especially a double elimination where a likely top 4 seed got two cracks at them (if we went chalk, it would been GaSo, right?), that they wouldn’t have hosted, and a runner-up GaSo (keeping them runner up for comparison) would have?

I agree to disagree.

(05-30-2022 12:47 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  2 spots out. Ugh.

One of those 2 spots was taken by UL...

Teams in by conference:

$EC- Tennessee, Georgia, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, LSU, Auburn, Vanderbilt, and Florida
ACC- Wake Forest, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, UNC, Virginia, Miami, Louisville, Florida State, and Virginia Tech
PAC-12- Stanford, Arizona, Oregon, UCLA, and Oregon State
Big XII- Texas Tech, Texas, Oklahoma State, TCU, and Oklahoma
Sun Belt- Texas State, Coastal Carolina, Louisiana, and Georgia Southern
Big Ten- Maryland & Michigan
C-USA- Louisiana Tech & Southern Miss
Missouri Valley- Dallas Baptist & Missouri State
ASUN- Kennesaw State & Liberty
WAC- Grand Canyon & NMSU
West Coast- Gonzaga & San Diego
Southland- SE LA
Horizon- Wright State
Ivy- Columbia
Summit League- Oral Roberts
MAAC- Canisius
Ohio Valley- SEMO
Patriot- Army
MAC- Central Michigan
American Athletic- East Carolina
MEAC- Coppin State
Colonial- Hofstra
Atlantic 10- VCU
MWC- Air Force
Northeast- LIU
Big East- UCONN
Big West- UCSB
Southern- UNCG
America East- Binghamton
SWAC- Alabama State
Big South- Campbell

(05-30-2022 12:54 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:44 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:13 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 12:03 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  You guys can take solace that the selection committee clearly ignored the SBC tournament this year outside of giving the winner an Auto bid. They based every decision in the league on regular season play.

Maybe if Texas State/Coastal/Georgia Southern wins the tournament, they get slightly better seeding, but even that's hard to say for sure.

In fact, I'm not sure they looked at any league tournament results nation wide.

Agree wholeheartedly!! Which shouldn’t be lost on anyone in this conference. The single elimination altered format WAS IGNORED. Because it’s a joke.

Anyone who had aspirations of hosting (Tx St), have a higher seed (whether GaSo Nationally, or Coastal Regionally) should abhor the repeated problem the Sun Belt refuses to fix.

It’s not about Coastal. But for example, we go to losers bracket and play Tx St, the winner, gets Ga So, and then a Louisiana squad that earns RPI by being winner bracket Champ… Runner up gets a HUGE boost in RPI, instead of an anchor from a one off loss.

It’s math people, not homerism.

You do realize that if you had gone to the Losers bracket you would have played App, right? The SBC separates its brackets in DE Format, so you could not have faced UL or Texas State until the Championship game. Your best hope would have been revenge on Troy and a chance to beat Georgia Southern twice.

Texas State was never going to have a shot at hosting. They were ranked the 3rd worst 2 seed.

Yes. Semantics. The idea is even coming through the losers bracket, Coastal or Texas State, or GaSo, would’ve eventually played better teams en route to climbing out. Including, for example, having to beat a good Louisiana team twice. Yes, realize not all teams would’ve had that path. Again, it’s the idea. Over time.

Of course, they could’ve lost game 2 too. The argument is predicated on what the law of averages will typically dictate for the better teams. Simple as that.

To clarify though chiefsfan… just sole curiosity of your process..

Are you saying, had Texas St won the Tourney, especially a double elimination where a likely top 4 seed got two cracks at them (if we went chalk, it would been GaSo, right?), that they wouldn’t have hosted, and a runner-up GaSo (keeping them runner up for comparison) would have?

I agree to disagree.

Yes, I generally believe that. The Bobcats entered Montgomery with an RPI in the low 20's, were seeded as one of the bottom 8 2 seeds in this tournament, and didn't have that impressive an OOC schedule.

Their Conference record was nuts, but those 15 road wins included the 7, 9.10, 11, and 12th place SBC teams. Their RPI got drug down quite a bit by the struggles of Ohio State, and how particularly awful the bottom of the SBC was this year.

Their head coach voted for Single Elimination, which leads me to believe he was pretty confident they wouldn't host regardless of what happened in Montgomery. I do think that a Tourney win probably puts them in a much better regional for fans though.

Way to go SBC teams(I include USM in that). I hope all of you make a lot of noise getting as many as we can to the WS. ODU...I hate that. Wish it was y'all instead of tech.