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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
1) Louisiana
2) Troy
3) ULM
4) USA
5) Arkansas State
6) Texas State
7) Southern Miss

Louisiana was deeper than anyone last year in the west. Troy had a lot of talent in a tough east last year, so they will bounce back. ULM was good last year. South will still be improving and should make a run for a winning season. When you factor in the east, the Belt could have more bowl eligible teams than bowls guaranteed to the conference. Better win 7 or more to make a bowl.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
(04-08-2022 09:42 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  1) Louisiana
2) Troy
3) ULM
4) USA
5) Arkansas State
6) Texas State
7) Southern Miss

Louisiana was deeper than anyone last year in the west. Troy had a lot of talent in a tough east last year, so they will bounce back. ULM was good last year. South will still be improving and should make a run for a winning season. When you factor in the east, the Belt could have more bowl eligible teams than bowls guaranteed to the conference. Better win 7 or more to make a bowl.

Louisiana is losing Chauncey Menac and Humphrey away from being ordinary.

I wish there was a way to pin this comment because it's the most painfully obvious thing no one is talking about. Those two are the primary reason Louisiana beat App twice. Menac will be producing in the NFL this season and Humphrey is 6'5 350 lbs that can move. He is very much the Calais Campbell of the Sun Belt.

Those two guys will be impossible for Louisiana to replace and it's going to show in Louisiana's run and pass defense.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
If USM had started out with the super back set, we would have easily went bowling.

Having that superback option in the future will make us a tough play. I'm looking forward to the new season.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
(04-11-2022 04:30 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(04-08-2022 09:42 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  1) Louisiana
2) Troy
3) ULM
4) USA
5) Arkansas State
6) Texas State
7) Southern Miss

Louisiana was deeper than anyone last year in the west. Troy had a lot of talent in a tough east last year, so they will bounce back. ULM was good last year. South will still be improving and should make a run for a winning season. When you factor in the east, the Belt could have more bowl eligible teams than bowls guaranteed to the conference. Better win 7 or more to make a bowl.

Louisiana is losing Chauncey Menac and Humphrey away from being ordinary.

I wish there was a way to pin this comment because it's the most painfully obvious thing no one is talking about. Those two are the primary reason Louisiana beat App twice. Menac will be producing in the NFL this season and Humphrey is 6'5 350 lbs that can move. He is very much the Calais Campbell of the Sun Belt.

Those two guys will be impossible for Louisiana to replace and it's going to show in Louisiana's run and pass defense.

It's really a shame that app state won't be in the championship game this year to see our replacements producing and you losing the pin to this comment.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
(04-04-2022 08:50 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(04-04-2022 07:30 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Trying to figure out why Louisiana is being picked #1, even though they're at the bottom of the SBC in returning production, lost star players to the portal, and lost their coaching staff?

I understand the "they're #1 til someone beats them", but it would take something miraculous for the Cajuns to win the West again.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if UL doesn't win the division, but I don't know there's any one team I want to bet on to unseat them.

Butch Jones to me was a letdown. I get there's a less than ideal roster situation but come on, you're at Ark State, I don't think it's that hard to win more than 2 there. I don't think they compete at least until Jones makes a change at DC (which he probably should've after last season).

USM had last year what would be the worst total offense in the Sun Belt in a weaker conference. I know Will Hall is a pretty good offensive coach so there must be some roster issues.

With Troy, gonna be honest here, I'm always suspicious of first-time defensive head coaches. With the game being as offense-driven as it is I'm not a fan of a G5 team using their coordinator budget to hire someone to be in charge of it. Plus, I know Chip Lindsey isn't a good head coach but is a good offensive coach so I wonder if (with the bad offensive numbers) the problem on offense is on the roster.

South at least for this year has the second-highest floor in the division but not the second-highest ceiling.

Texas State isn't winning the East with Spavital as a coach. Maybe it was worth giving him one more year to see if he can get 6 wins and make the bowl game but otherwise he probably should've been let go last year.

ULM...naw.
USM finished the year with about 50 kids on scholarship. Most of those were really young. Got a ton of P5 players from the portal. Now have 80 plus kids on scholarship. Can’t really measure this year’s team by last year’s. With the portal that is somewhat true of most G5 teams but more so we USM.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
UL
Troy
Ark St
Texas St
USM
ULM
USA

To be fair, UL losing a lot and half the division having coaching changes is about the extent of my knowledge here.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
(04-11-2022 05:53 PM)BamaCajun Wrote:  
(04-11-2022 04:30 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(04-08-2022 09:42 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  1) Louisiana
2) Troy
3) ULM
4) USA
5) Arkansas State
6) Texas State
7) Southern Miss

Louisiana was deeper than anyone last year in the west. Troy had a lot of talent in a tough east last year, so they will bounce back. ULM was good last year. South will still be improving and should make a run for a winning season. When you factor in the east, the Belt could have more bowl eligible teams than bowls guaranteed to the conference. Better win 7 or more to make a bowl.

Louisiana is losing Chauncey Menac and Humphrey away from being ordinary.

I wish there was a way to pin this comment because it's the most painfully obvious thing no one is talking about. Those two are the primary reason Louisiana beat App twice. Menac will be producing in the NFL this season and Humphrey is 6'5 350 lbs that can move. He is very much the Calais Campbell of the Sun Belt.

Those two guys will be impossible for Louisiana to replace and it's going to show in Louisiana's run and pass defense.

It's really a shame that app state won't be in the championship game this year to see our replacements producing and you losing the pin to this comment.
Lol, really. It’s his ABSOLUTE certainty that tells the story. I admit to a certain amount of bias, but still realize that there are far too many unknowns to be that certain of any outcome at this point in time.

P.S. +2 for you for the accurate, yet amusing response.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
(04-04-2022 07:30 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Trying to figure out why Louisiana is being picked #1, even though they're at the bottom of the SBC in returning production, lost star players to the portal, and lost their coaching staff?

I understand the "they're #1 til someone beats them", but it would take something miraculous for the Cajuns to win the West again.

Ditto
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
(04-12-2022 03:02 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  
(04-04-2022 07:30 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Trying to figure out why Louisiana is being picked #1, even though they're at the bottom of the SBC in returning production, lost star players to the portal, and lost their coaching staff?

I understand the "they're #1 til someone beats them", but it would take something miraculous for the Cajuns to win the West again.

Ditto

Last time we lost a western division game was oct 19, 2017...last time we lost to Troy was 2018...only team in the west with a winning record from last year. Picking us first in the west is just so crazy right? Only 3 of our coaches on staff didn’t coach under Napier.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
(04-12-2022 03:30 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  
(04-12-2022 03:02 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  
(04-04-2022 07:30 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Trying to figure out why Louisiana is being picked #1, even though they're at the bottom of the SBC in returning production, lost star players to the portal, and lost their coaching staff?

I understand the "they're #1 til someone beats them", but it would take something miraculous for the Cajuns to win the West again.

Ditto

Last time we lost a western division game was oct 19, 2017...last time we lost to Troy was 2018...only team in the west with a winning record from last year. Picking us first in the west is just so crazy right? Only 3 of our coaches on staff didn’t coach under Napier.
Let them sleep.
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(04-12-2022 04:36 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  
(04-12-2022 03:30 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  
(04-12-2022 03:02 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  
(04-04-2022 07:30 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Trying to figure out why Louisiana is being picked #1, even though they're at the bottom of the SBC in returning production, lost star players to the portal, and lost their coaching staff?

I understand the "they're #1 til someone beats them", but it would take something miraculous for the Cajuns to win the West again.

Ditto

Last time we lost a western division game was oct 19, 2017...last time we lost to Troy was 2018...only team in the west with a winning record from last year. Picking us first in the west is just so crazy right? Only 3 of our coaches on staff didn’t coach under Napier.
Let them sleep.
Yep. I just hope the players and coaches are having these same expectations.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
(04-12-2022 01:26 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(04-11-2022 05:53 PM)BamaCajun Wrote:  
(04-11-2022 04:30 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(04-08-2022 09:42 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  1) Louisiana
2) Troy
3) ULM
4) USA
5) Arkansas State
6) Texas State
7) Southern Miss

Louisiana was deeper than anyone last year in the west. Troy had a lot of talent in a tough east last year, so they will bounce back. ULM was good last year. South will still be improving and should make a run for a winning season. When you factor in the east, the Belt could have more bowl eligible teams than bowls guaranteed to the conference. Better win 7 or more to make a bowl.

Louisiana is losing Chauncey Menac and Humphrey away from being ordinary.

I wish there was a way to pin this comment because it's the most painfully obvious thing no one is talking about. Those two are the primary reason Louisiana beat App twice. Menac will be producing in the NFL this season and Humphrey is 6'5 350 lbs that can move. He is very much the Calais Campbell of the Sun Belt.

Those two guys will be impossible for Louisiana to replace and it's going to show in Louisiana's run and pass defense.

It's really a shame that app state won't be in the championship game this year to see our replacements producing and you losing the pin to this comment.
Lol, really. It’s his ABSOLUTE certainty that tells the story. I admit to a certain amount of bias, but still realize that there are far too many unknowns to be that certain of any outcome at this point in time.

P.S. +2 for you for the accurate, yet amusing response.

Who do you have to replace Humphrey and Menac? Those are two guys who will contribute in the NFL in 2022. You won't just replace a 6'5 350 lb guy who can move like him and Jordan Davis.

You will see far more performances like Rasheen Ali had against Louisiana than what Louisiana did against a team like Liberty.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
(04-12-2022 01:26 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(04-11-2022 05:53 PM)BamaCajun Wrote:  
(04-11-2022 04:30 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(04-08-2022 09:42 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  1) Louisiana
2) Troy
3) ULM
4) USA
5) Arkansas State
6) Texas State
7) Southern Miss

Louisiana was deeper than anyone last year in the west. Troy had a lot of talent in a tough east last year, so they will bounce back. ULM was good last year. South will still be improving and should make a run for a winning season. When you factor in the east, the Belt could have more bowl eligible teams than bowls guaranteed to the conference. Better win 7 or more to make a bowl.

Louisiana is losing Chauncey Menac and Humphrey away from being ordinary.

I wish there was a way to pin this comment because it's the most painfully obvious thing no one is talking about. Those two are the primary reason Louisiana beat App twice. Menac will be producing in the NFL this season and Humphrey is 6'5 350 lbs that can move. He is very much the Calais Campbell of the Sun Belt.

Those two guys will be impossible for Louisiana to replace and it's going to show in Louisiana's run and pass defense.

It's really a shame that app state won't be in the championship game this year to see our replacements producing and you losing the pin to this comment.
Lol, really. It’s his ABSOLUTE certainty that tells the story. I admit to a certain amount of bias, but still realize that there are far too many unknowns to be that certain of any outcome at this point in time.

P.S. +2 for you for the accurate, yet amusing response.

I'm not nearly as confident that Louisiana and Coastal will just keep trucking after losing so much, but I do keep open the possibility that you guys could win the league, or even demolish everyone you play. I just don't think it's very likely, and that there will be some real growing pains. With the exception of any games with Troy, I hope you guys get things sorted out early, as an SBC fan.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
(04-12-2022 06:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(04-12-2022 01:26 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(04-11-2022 05:53 PM)BamaCajun Wrote:  
(04-11-2022 04:30 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(04-08-2022 09:42 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  1) Louisiana
2) Troy
3) ULM
4) USA
5) Arkansas State
6) Texas State
7) Southern Miss

Louisiana was deeper than anyone last year in the west. Troy had a lot of talent in a tough east last year, so they will bounce back. ULM was good last year. South will still be improving and should make a run for a winning season. When you factor in the east, the Belt could have more bowl eligible teams than bowls guaranteed to the conference. Better win 7 or more to make a bowl.

Louisiana is losing Chauncey Menac and Humphrey away from being ordinary.

I wish there was a way to pin this comment because it's the most painfully obvious thing no one is talking about. Those two are the primary reason Louisiana beat App twice. Menac will be producing in the NFL this season and Humphrey is 6'5 350 lbs that can move. He is very much the Calais Campbell of the Sun Belt.

Those two guys will be impossible for Louisiana to replace and it's going to show in Louisiana's run and pass defense.

It's really a shame that app state won't be in the championship game this year to see our replacements producing and you losing the pin to this comment.
Lol, really. It’s his ABSOLUTE certainty that tells the story. I admit to a certain amount of bias, but still realize that there are far too many unknowns to be that certain of any outcome at this point in time.

P.S. +2 for you for the accurate, yet amusing response.

Who do you have to replace Humphrey and Menac? Those are two guys who will contribute in the NFL in 2022. You won't just replace a 6'5 350 lb guy who can move like him and Jordan Davis.

You will see far more performances like Rasheen Ali had against Louisiana than what Louisiana did against a team like Liberty.
It’s Manac, for goodness sake.

And no, we *absolutely* do not have anyone to replace those 2. So you are correct in that it will be *impossible* for us to carry on without them.
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(04-12-2022 12:49 PM)Herdfan1991 Wrote:  UL
Troy
Ark St
Texas St
USM
ULM
USA

To be fair, UL losing a lot and half the division having coaching changes is about the extent of my knowledge here.

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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
1. Louisiana
2. Troy
3. ULM
4. USA
5. stAte
6. USM
7. Texas State
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November 5 will prove to be the most important date for a SBC West game this season according to these standings.
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(04-13-2022 09:47 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  November 5 will prove to be the most important date for a SBC West game this season according to these standings.

And we are looking forward to welcoming you to Cajun Field. Just a warning though, our product on the field is MUCH better than the venue, lol.
But our tailgating can’t be beat, our women are all gorgeous and you will have some of the best food of your life. So that might help,ease the sting of the inevitable L just a bit.
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
(04-04-2022 10:19 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  
(04-04-2022 07:30 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Trying to figure out why Louisiana is being picked #1, even though they're at the bottom of the SBC in returning production, lost star players to the portal, and lost their coaching staff?

I understand the "they're #1 til someone beats them", but it would take something miraculous for the Cajuns to win the West again.

start off with the last 3 years worth of recruiting. being #1 in 3 stars, and in the top group for average per recruit, builds a very deep and talented roster.

next add the fact that Napier and staff played a lot of players during his 4 seasons, meaning that players maybe didnt start, but banked a lot of game snaps. The only place the portal was truly hurtful was the OL. thats a question mark for depth. RB/WR/and to a less degree CB will be just fine replacing what was lost in the portal.

while coaching losses were big, the new staff has a lot of coaches from that system. they wont be trying to recreate a new system, or follow a plan that they were not apart of themselves.

lastly, who in the west dont have question marks that make them the clear #1 team instead of Louisiana?

these are the reason Louisiana should be still considered the favorite in the west until proven otherwise.

G5 recruiting rankings are crap
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RE: Sun Belt BBS Preseason West Division Poll
Here’s the other thing about the Cajuns, other than App, most of those other games were very close and coin flips at the end.

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