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(06-18-2023 07:11 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:27 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:16 AM)thanksjim Wrote:  Matthew Trickett signed with the Falcons

Odd to give a 3-year deal to a kicker that will back up a Pro Bowler who recently signed a 5 year deal.

https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/list...-nfl-news/

(06-17-2023 09:17 PM)bopol Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 11:09 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:27 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:16 AM)thanksjim Wrote:  Matthew Trickett signed with the Falcons

Odd to give a 3-year deal to a kicker that will back up a Pro Bowler who recently signed a 5 year deal.

https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/list...-nfl-news/

Ah one of the great examples of journalism today. Report a thing that happened then just put a bunch of tweets from randos reacting to it. We live in the golden age of journalism.

MDJ 39999 - Clicks and Views.

The new media does not demand rigorous intellectual presentation of news and issues, but, more often is reduced to the lowest common denominator of the human race. This course will teach you how create content that will maximize revenue while minimizing the actual work involved in creating the content. Social media sites like reddit, Twitter and YouTube will be discussed in great detail.

When i think about how much the news media has declined over my lifetime I can almost cry.

Has it really declined? Didn’t Hearst cause the Spanish American War. Weren’t newspaper headlines designed to sell newspapers by exaggerating a bit. The press isn’t worse it just gets to more people much more quickly than it used to. Technology has made it more dangerous not the people doing the writing.

(06-19-2023 10:57 AM)burden Wrote:  

(06-18-2023 07:11 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:27 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:16 AM)thanksjim Wrote:  Matthew Trickett signed with the Falcons

Odd to give a 3-year deal to a kicker that will back up a Pro Bowler who recently signed a 5 year deal.

https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/list...-nfl-news/

(06-17-2023 09:17 PM)bopol Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 11:09 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:27 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Odd to give a 3-year deal to a kicker that will back up a Pro Bowler who recently signed a 5 year deal.

https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/list...-nfl-news/

Ah one of the great examples of journalism today. Report a thing that happened then just put a bunch of tweets from randos reacting to it. We live in the golden age of journalism.

MDJ 39999 - Clicks and Views.

The new media does not demand rigorous intellectual presentation of news and issues, but, more often is reduced to the lowest common denominator of the human race. This course will teach you how create content that will maximize revenue while minimizing the actual work involved in creating the content. Social media sites like reddit, Twitter and YouTube will be discussed in great detail.

When i think about how much the news media has declined over my lifetime I can almost cry.

Has it really declined? Didn’t Hearst cause the Spanish American War. Weren’t newspaper headlines designed to sell newspapers by exaggerating a bit. The press isn’t worse it just gets to more people much more quickly than it used to. Technology has made it more dangerous not the people doing the writing.

Well, certainly more lazy. Now "reporting" is just screen grabbing random people's reaction that you didn't even do the leg work of soliciting from them. I often wonder if pro sports teams are investing in large amounts of burner accounts to just drive positive reactions when they make a move. And if they aren't... Why not?

(06-19-2023 10:57 AM)burden Wrote:  

(06-18-2023 07:11 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:27 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:16 AM)thanksjim Wrote:  Matthew Trickett signed with the Falcons

Odd to give a 3-year deal to a kicker that will back up a Pro Bowler who recently signed a 5 year deal.

https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/list...-nfl-news/

(06-17-2023 09:17 PM)bopol Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 11:09 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:27 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Odd to give a 3-year deal to a kicker that will back up a Pro Bowler who recently signed a 5 year deal.

https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/list...-nfl-news/

Ah one of the great examples of journalism today. Report a thing that happened then just put a bunch of tweets from randos reacting to it. We live in the golden age of journalism.

MDJ 39999 - Clicks and Views.

The new media does not demand rigorous intellectual presentation of news and issues, but, more often is reduced to the lowest common denominator of the human race. This course will teach you how create content that will maximize revenue while minimizing the actual work involved in creating the content. Social media sites like reddit, Twitter and YouTube will be discussed in great detail.

When i think about how much the news media has declined over my lifetime I can almost cry.

Has it really declined? Didn’t Hearst cause the Spanish American War. Weren’t newspaper headlines designed to sell newspapers by exaggerating a bit. The press isn’t worse it just gets to more people much more quickly than it used to. Technology has made it more dangerous not the people doing the writing.

I certainly think it has declined in my lifetime, but I think it's been crap in America from the 1770s to early 1900s. I think we grew up (not really sure how old you are, so sorry) during the golden years of journalism from 1930s through 1990s when the dominant media was newspapers and daily news programs. The journalism was more precise, cared more about being correct, and the news moved slower allowing for citizens to analyze the news independent of people telling them how to feel about the news. What analysis there was was more clearly thought out and presented on the editorial pages of newspaper or Sunday news programs.

Since the rise of AM radio, 24 hours cable news, the internet and social media sites, I think each step has steadily made the discussions worse as people more quickly form opinions based on copying what they are fed through these sources and this has dumbed down the discussions and made politics more polarized.

(06-19-2023 12:24 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  

(06-19-2023 10:57 AM)burden Wrote:  

(06-18-2023 07:11 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:27 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:16 AM)thanksjim Wrote:  Matthew Trickett signed with the Falcons

Odd to give a 3-year deal to a kicker that will back up a Pro Bowler who recently signed a 5 year deal.

https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/list...-nfl-news/

(06-17-2023 09:17 PM)bopol Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 11:09 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  Ah one of the great examples of journalism today. Report a thing that happened then just put a bunch of tweets from randos reacting to it. We live in the golden age of journalism.

MDJ 39999 - Clicks and Views.

The new media does not demand rigorous intellectual presentation of news and issues, but, more often is reduced to the lowest common denominator of the human race. This course will teach you how create content that will maximize revenue while minimizing the actual work involved in creating the content. Social media sites like reddit, Twitter and YouTube will be discussed in great detail.

When i think about how much the news media has declined over my lifetime I can almost cry.

Has it really declined? Didn’t Hearst cause the Spanish American War. Weren’t newspaper headlines designed to sell newspapers by exaggerating a bit. The press isn’t worse it just gets to more people much more quickly than it used to. Technology has made it more dangerous not the people doing the writing.

Well, certainly more lazy. Now "reporting" is just screen grabbing random people's reaction that you didn't even do the leg work of soliciting from them. I often wonder if pro sports teams are investing in large amounts of burner accounts to just drive positive reactions when they make a move. And if they aren't... Why not?

Oh, that's a good idea. That would probably fall under Digital Media Marketing. Could be a course in Marketing or MDJ.

(06-19-2023 02:49 PM)bopol Wrote:  

(06-19-2023 10:57 AM)burden Wrote:  

(06-18-2023 07:11 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:27 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 09:16 AM)thanksjim Wrote:  Matthew Trickett signed with the Falcons

Odd to give a 3-year deal to a kicker that will back up a Pro Bowler who recently signed a 5 year deal.

https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/list...-nfl-news/

(06-17-2023 09:17 PM)bopol Wrote:  

(06-17-2023 11:09 AM)anti-zip Wrote:  Ah one of the great examples of journalism today. Report a thing that happened then just put a bunch of tweets from randos reacting to it. We live in the golden age of journalism.

MDJ 39999 - Clicks and Views.

The new media does not demand rigorous intellectual presentation of news and issues, but, more often is reduced to the lowest common denominator of the human race. This course will teach you how create content that will maximize revenue while minimizing the actual work involved in creating the content. Social media sites like reddit, Twitter and YouTube will be discussed in great detail.

When i think about how much the news media has declined over my lifetime I can almost cry.

Has it really declined? Didn’t Hearst cause the Spanish American War. Weren’t newspaper headlines designed to sell newspapers by exaggerating a bit. The press isn’t worse it just gets to more people much more quickly than it used to. Technology has made it more dangerous not the people doing the writing.

I certainly think it has declined in my lifetime, but I think it's been crap in America from the 1770s to early 1900s. I think we grew up (not really sure how old you are, so sorry) during the golden years of journalism from 1930s through 1990s when the dominant media was newspapers and daily news programs. The journalism was more precise, cared more about being correct, and the news moved slower allowing for citizens to analyze the news independent of people telling them how to feel about the news. What analysis there was was more clearly thought out and presented on the editorial pages of newspaper or Sunday news programs.

Since the rise of AM radio, 24 hours cable news, the internet and social media sites, I think each step has steadily made the discussions worse as people more quickly form opinions based on copying what they are fed through these sources and this has dumbed down the discussions and made politics more polarized.

I think we are saying the same thing but just blaming different things for the demise. No matter how good a journalist wants to be he/she still must meet deadlines and profit goals to stay employed. Those timeframes are so short it’s pretty much impossible to be accurate and thorough especially when the majority of the public doesn’t care. Heck the other day a prominent team on sports radio were talking about whether the Guardians should trade Bieber at the June 30th trade deadline and not one caller called out their error. By the way I’m 73 and agree with your analysis. I just think journalists are doing what they always have done. Get the story as right as they can in the time they are given. Currently their time limit is minuscule and certainly doesn’t reward accuracy. By the way it’s not just America since the 1770. I’m pretty sure some of the cave paintings in France were lies.

It appears to me that what happened was part of a national trend for larger and larger companies swallowing up local then regional news outlets. And in the push for greater profits, they saw news not as a public benefit, but as a drain on those profits. News gathering became increasingly outsourced and generalized and news departments’ budgets were drastically slashed, staffs cut to the bone and what actual journalists were left, were so overburdened as to essentially be just compilers of information taken from outside sources.

Almost everyone who follows KSU sports has seen it first hand in the R-C and the ABJ. We remember how good those newspapers could be and are now stripped down into being vague shadows of their former selves. It’s not the journalists fault. They aren’t even there anymore. They retired, were laid off, or simply left the field. What’s left of most local hard news and sports staffs are mostly entry level assemblers of publicly available information. Sports stories are often even computer generated from box scores (ESPN) and are not individually written.

It’s all part of the belief that things not intended to maximize profit above all else are not worth pursuing. Damn the public good, let’s just squeeze out whatever money we can, then fold it up and close it down. It’s not the journalists who have done this. It’s the corporate vultures who have done the same thing in lots of other fields and businesses. Squeeze it, strip it, let it die, then move on to the next one.

Sorry for the rant. As someone who taught journalism for a couple of decades, I’ve seen it firsthand. The kind of journalism we used to teach barely exists anymore. I quit recommending young folks go into the field a good while ago because there is little future doing that kind of reporting. It’s a whole different career now that has little in common with independent journalism, whether it’s news, sports, politics, or finance. But if you want to write briefly and shallowly about popular culture and youth trends, we might be able to find a spot for you. We need five best and worst lists by noon! Chop, chop!

Journalism is not much different than other things we grew up with that got eliminated or greatly reduced. Mom and pop shops in small town America got run off by the big box stores as they can't compete with somebody that buys in such huge quantities they can sell it far below the cost their shops could buy it at. Hard to imagine how families were able to survive when say dad owned a small deli or clothing store or whatever when now you can run to WallyWorld and get your groceries, clothes, car stuff and more all under one roof and all much cheaper than you could if you sent downtown and did it in several small family-operated businesses.

(06-20-2023 07:31 AM)axeme Wrote:  It appears to me that what happened was part of a national trend for larger and larger companies swallowing up local then regional news outlets. And in the push for greater profits, they saw news not as a public benefit, but as a drain on those profits. News gathering became increasingly outsourced and generalized and news departments’ budgets were drastically slashed, staffs cut to the bone and what actual journalists were left, were so overburdened as to essentially be just compilers of information taken from outside sources.

Almost everyone who follows KSU sports has seen it first hand in the R-C and the ABJ. We remember how good those newspapers could be and are now stripped down into being vague shadows of their former selves. It’s not the journalists fault. They aren’t even there anymore. They retired, were laid off, or simply left the field. What’s left of most local hard news and sports staffs are mostly entry level assemblers of publicly available information. Sports stories are often even computer generated from box scores (ESPN) and are not individually written.

It’s all part of the belief that things not intended to maximize profit above all else are not worth pursuing. Damn the public good, let’s just squeeze out whatever money we can, then fold it up and close it down. It’s not the journalists who have done this. It’s the corporate vultures who have done the same thing in lots of other fields and businesses. Squeeze it, strip it, let it die, then move on to the next one.

Sorry for the rant. As someone who taught journalism for a couple of decades, I’ve seen it firsthand. The kind of journalism we used to teach barely exists anymore. I quit recommending young folks go into the field a good while ago because there is little future doing that kind of reporting. It’s a whole different career now that has little in common with independent journalism, whether it’s news, sports, politics, or finance. But if you want to write briefly and shallowly about popular culture and youth trends, we might be able to find a spot for you. We need five best and worst lists by noon! Chop, chop!

FWIW, I appreciate the rant. I only know of one person who made it in journalism: he's a reporter for a trade magazine. Everyone else left the field. I would say that David Carducci, who worked in the field for year and left for public relations is a prime example.

(06-20-2023 07:58 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Journalism is not much different than other things we grew up with that got eliminated or greatly reduced. Mom and pop shops in small town America got run off by the big box stores as they can't compete with somebody that buys in such huge quantities they can sell it far below the cost their shops could buy it at. Hard to imagine how families were able to survive when say dad owned a small deli or clothing store or whatever when now you can run to WallyWorld and get your groceries, clothes, car stuff and more all under one roof and all much cheaper than you could if you sent downtown and did it in several small family-operated businesses.

Boy is this true. If there are any mom and pop shops left there is a good chance they are fake. I thought I was supporting a mom and pop during the pandemic. It was a small coffee shop. That small shop is now 4 separate coffee shops, a breakfast restaurant, a bakery and a coffee roaster. Think he had some big time money behind him!

(06-20-2023 07:31 AM)axeme Wrote:  It appears to me that what happened was part of a national trend for larger and larger companies swallowing up local then regional news outlets. And in the push for greater profits, they saw news not as a public benefit, but as a drain on those profits. News gathering became increasingly outsourced and generalized and news departments’ budgets were drastically slashed, staffs cut to the bone and what actual journalists were left, were so overburdened as to essentially be just compilers of information taken from outside sources.

Almost everyone who follows KSU sports has seen it first hand in the R-C and the ABJ. We remember how good those newspapers could be and are now stripped down into being vague shadows of their former selves. It’s not the journalists fault. They aren’t even there anymore. They retired, were laid off, or simply left the field. What’s left of most local hard news and sports staffs are mostly entry level assemblers of publicly available information. Sports stories are often even computer generated from box scores (ESPN) and are not individually written.

It’s all part of the belief that things not intended to maximize profit above all else are not worth pursuing. Damn the public good, let’s just squeeze out whatever money we can, then fold it up and close it down. It’s not the journalists who have done this. It’s the corporate vultures who have done the same thing in lots of other fields and businesses. Squeeze it, strip it, let it die, then move on to the next one.

Sorry for the rant. As someone who taught journalism for a couple of decades, I’ve seen it firsthand. The kind of journalism we used to teach barely exists anymore. I quit recommending young folks go into the field a good while ago because there is little future doing that kind of reporting. It’s a whole different career now that has little in common with independent journalism, whether it’s news, sports, politics, or finance. But if you want to write briefly and shallowly about popular culture and youth trends, we might be able to find a spot for you. We need five best and worst lists by noon! Chop, chop!

You are so right. It’s never the worker bee. It’s always management. I’m afraid the more we move away from making things and instead become a service economy the worse this will get. When the most successful people in the country make their money posting on tik tok or whatever we are not trending in a good direction.

(06-20-2023 07:31 AM)axeme Wrote:  It appears to me that what happened was part of a national trend for larger and larger companies swallowing up local then regional news outlets.

This. +1000.

It's not just that. Grew up in nice suburban home, but really feel like placed an unhealthy expectation of needing a "bigger" house to "improve"

It's part why I enjoy the G5 stadiums so much and the smaller size and can enjoy a Tuesday night empty crowd game.

(04-29-2023 02:30 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Watching the draft and realizing, with college athletics and portal being what they are, we’ll never have a Flash getting drafted again. Last Flashes drafted were both 3rd rounders, Brian Winters in 2013 and Dri Archer in 2014.

And speaking of Brian Winters, holy smokes! No wonder Cribbs didn’t recognize him, who would? Good for him to trim down and lead a healthier life post-football.