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(05-09-2022 07:39 AM)truEMU07 Wrote:  
(05-09-2022 07:02 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  Well we didn't get a sweep we did get a split. Still having a chance of making the tournament. We have 8 games left need to go at least 6-2 to have a chance along with help from Ball St.

I thought the top 8 were in the tournament?

We can't lose them all by any means but we still have a decent shot at making it and could control our own destiny against Kent in the final week.

MAC website is as clear as mud on the subject.

https://getsomemaction.com/tournaments/?...h=baseball

Wikipedia says top 4 for 2022.
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(05-09-2022 07:02 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  Well we didn't get a sweep we did get a split. Still having a chance of making the tournament. We have 8 games left need to go at least 6-2 to have a chance along with help from Ball St.
That's sounds right. It looks like EMU is 2.5 games behind Ohio with 8 games to play.
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It's only the top 4 per the MAC web site. It's tough to find but it's there on the tournament standings.
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Well now I know why I thought "back in my day I thought it was six."

Because it was. Bummer. Lots of work to do for the boys in the next 8 games then.
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(05-09-2022 12:46 PM)truEMU07 Wrote:  Well now I know why I thought "back in my day I thought it was six."

Because it was. Bummer. Lots of work to do for the boys in the next 8 games then.

Going to be tough but the guys can do it. This is a good team. 07-coffee3
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With our lose yesterday we are now a very large long shot to make the 4 team tournament. Played good but not good enough against CMUs top pitcher.
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Four teams is horseshite. Might as well not even have the tournament. Give the auto bid to the regular season champion.
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(05-15-2022 12:02 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Four teams is horseshite. Might as well not even have the tournament. Give the auto bid to the regular season champion.

I agree four isn't a great number.

The problem is doing the math. Eight is a very easy number for say a single-elimination hoops tourney.

I have no problem with say a 6-team double-elimination tourney but I haven't figured out the math.

Maybe even better, I'd have no problems with say Teams 3 - 6 play a single-elimination game E.g., #6 @ 3 and #5 at 4 with the winners advancing to join #1 and #2 seeds in a 4-team tourney.
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(05-15-2022 06:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 12:02 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Four teams is horseshite. Might as well not even have the tournament. Give the auto bid to the regular season champion.

I agree four isn't a great number.

The problem is doing the math. Eight is a very easy number for say a single-elimination hoops tourney.

I have no problem with say a 6-team double-elimination tourney but I haven't figured out the math.

Maybe even better, I'd have no problems with say Teams 3 - 6 play a single-elimination game E.g., #6 @ 3 and #5 at 4 with the winners advancing to join #1 and #2 seeds in a 4-team tourney.

The word is they are going back to the pre Covid-19 schedule next year. 07-coffee3
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We dropped a double header to CMU yesterday. We have a game with CMU today and a season ending series with Kent St.
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Wemu will have me as a guest on tomorrows after podcast. 3 o'clock
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(05-15-2022 06:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 12:02 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Four teams is horseshite. Might as well not even have the tournament. Give the auto bid to the regular season champion.

I agree four isn't a great number.

The problem is doing the math. Eight is a very easy number for say a single-elimination hoops tourney.

I have no problem with say a 6-team double-elimination tourney but I haven't figured out the math.

Maybe even better, I'd have no problems with say Teams 3 - 6 play a single-elimination game E.g., #6 @ 3 and #5 at 4 with the winners advancing to join #1 and #2 seeds in a 4-team tourney.

Please don't equate basketball and baseball in a tournament format. Pitchers arms are of incredible importance in baseball, while basketball has no comparable situation. This weekend was my first fan experience at Oestrike this season due to weather and it was clear that we cannot compete with Central, they are far better than us.

The NCAA conference basketball tournaments were established for one reason, MONEY. That is not the case for baseball either as it generates little revenue. I'm with the Cow, why have a tourney?
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(05-15-2022 05:26 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 06:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 12:02 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Four teams is horseshite. Might as well not even have the tournament. Give the auto bid to the regular season champion.

I agree four isn't a great number.

The problem is doing the math. Eight is a very easy number for say a single-elimination hoops tourney.

I have no problem with say a 6-team double-elimination tourney but I haven't figured out the math.

Maybe even better, I'd have no problems with say Teams 3 - 6 play a single-elimination game E.g., #6 @ 3 and #5 at 4 with the winners advancing to join #1 and #2 seeds in a 4-team tourney.

Please don't equate basketball and baseball in a tournament format. Pitchers arms are of incredible importance in baseball, while basketball has no comparable situation. This weekend was my first fan experience at Oestrike this season due to weather and it was clear that we cannot compete with Central, they are far better than us.

The NCAA conference basketball tournaments were established for one reason, MONEY. That is not the case for baseball either as it generates little revenue. I'm with the Cow, why have a tourney?

Completely uncompetitive with Central, in every facet. We’re a long, long way from being strong enough to compete for a spot in the damn conference tournament.
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(05-15-2022 05:26 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 06:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 12:02 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Four teams is horseshite. Might as well not even have the tournament. Give the auto bid to the regular season champion.

I agree four isn't a great number.

The problem is doing the math. Eight is a very easy number for say a single-elimination hoops tourney.

I have no problem with say a 6-team double-elimination tourney but I haven't figured out the math.

Maybe even better, I'd have no problems with say Teams 3 - 6 play a single-elimination game E.g., #6 @ 3 and #5 at 4 with the winners advancing to join #1 and #2 seeds in a 4-team tourney.

Please don't equate basketball and baseball in a tournament format. Pitchers arms are of incredible importance in baseball, while basketball has no comparable situation. This weekend was my first fan experience at Oestrike this season due to weather and it was clear that we cannot compete with Central, they are far better than us.

The NCAA conference basketball tournaments were established for one reason, MONEY. That is not the case for baseball either as it generates little revenue. I'm with the Cow, why have a tourney?

Aren't college baseball tourneys double elimination???
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(05-15-2022 09:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 05:26 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 06:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 12:02 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Four teams is horseshite. Might as well not even have the tournament. Give the auto bid to the regular season champion.

I agree four isn't a great number.

The problem is doing the math. Eight is a very easy number for say a single-elimination hoops tourney.

I have no problem with say a 6-team double-elimination tourney but I haven't figured out the math.

Maybe even better, I'd have no problems with say Teams 3 - 6 play a single-elimination game E.g., #6 @ 3 and #5 at 4 with the winners advancing to join #1 and #2 seeds in a 4-team tourney.

Please don't equate basketball and baseball in a tournament format. Pitchers arms are of incredible importance in baseball, while basketball has no comparable situation. This weekend was my first fan experience at Oestrike this season due to weather and it was clear that we cannot compete with Central, they are far better than us.

The NCAA conference basketball tournaments were established for one reason, MONEY. That is not the case for baseball either as it generates little revenue. I'm with the Cow, why have a tourney?

Aren't college baseball tourneys double elimination???
No.07-coffee3
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(05-16-2022 05:17 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 09:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 05:26 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 06:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-15-2022 12:02 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Four teams is horseshite. Might as well not even have the tournament. Give the auto bid to the regular season champion.

I agree four isn't a great number.

The problem is doing the math. Eight is a very easy number for say a single-elimination hoops tourney.

I have no problem with say a 6-team double-elimination tourney but I haven't figured out the math.

Maybe even better, I'd have no problems with say Teams 3 - 6 play a single-elimination game E.g., #6 @ 3 and #5 at 4 with the winners advancing to join #1 and #2 seeds in a 4-team tourney.

Please don't equate basketball and baseball in a tournament format. Pitchers arms are of incredible importance in baseball, while basketball has no comparable situation. This weekend was my first fan experience at Oestrike this season due to weather and it was clear that we cannot compete with Central, they are far better than us.

The NCAA conference basketball tournaments were established for one reason, MONEY. That is not the case for baseball either as it generates little revenue. I'm with the Cow, why have a tourney?

Aren't college baseball tourneys double elimination???
No.07-coffee3

Maybe I'm confusing conference baseball tourneys and the NCAA tourney.

Here is the text on the NCAA tourney:

"Tournament format
The tournament is unique in that it features four tiers of competition, alternating between double-elimination brackets and best-of-three series. In fact, throughout the entire 64-team tournament, a team can lose a total of four games and still be crowned champions. "
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Super, Wikipedia disagrees with you. Things have CHANGED since Covid, but before it was double-elimination for the MAC...

In its final format, the top six finishers participated in the double-elimination tournament, which was most recently played at Crushers Stadium in Avon, Ohio, from 2012 through 2019. The winner of the tournament received an automatic berth to the NCAA Division I Baseball Championship.
Official website: mac-sports.com/tournaments/...
Conference: Mid-American Conference
Played: 1981–1983; 1992–2019; 2022–present
Number of teams: 6

Super/Jerry, you guys are confusing me. I was going to call my doc for a 'Covid fog' assessment. 03-lmfao

I used to watch those MAC tourney games when Chad and Greg did them (and EMU made the tourney, obviously).

That said, if the MAC had a 6-team double-elimination baseball tourney in Ohio before Covid.... (you know where this is going).

I propose a 6-team double elimination tourney for 2023.

Who is with me?
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(05-16-2022 07:31 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Super, Wikipedia disagrees with you. Things have CHANGED since Covid, but before it was double-elimination for the MAC...

In its final format, the top six finishers participated in the double-elimination tournament, which was most recently played at Crushers Stadium in Avon, Ohio, from 2012 through 2019. The winner of the tournament received an automatic berth to the NCAA Division I Baseball Championship.
Official website: mac-sports.com/tournaments/...
Conference: Mid-American Conference
Played: 1981–1983; 1992–2019; 2022–present
Number of teams: 6

Super/Jerry, you guys are confusing me. I was going to call my doc for a 'Covid fog' assessment. 03-lmfao

I used to watch those MAC tourney games when Chad and Greg did them (and EMU made the tourney, obviously).

That said, if the MAC had a 6-team double-elimination baseball tourney in Ohio before Covid.... (you know where this is going).

I propose a 6-team double elimination tourney for 2023.

Who is with me?

Who are going to believe me or wikipedia? 07-coffee3
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(05-17-2022 08:12 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(05-16-2022 07:31 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Super, Wikipedia disagrees with you. Things have CHANGED since Covid, but before it was double-elimination for the MAC...

In its final format, the top six finishers participated in the double-elimination tournament, which was most recently played at Crushers Stadium in Avon, Ohio, from 2012 through 2019. The winner of the tournament received an automatic berth to the NCAA Division I Baseball Championship.
Official website: mac-sports.com/tournaments/...
Conference: Mid-American Conference
Played: 1981–1983; 1992–2019; 2022–present
Number of teams: 6

Super/Jerry, you guys are confusing me. I was going to call my doc for a 'Covid fog' assessment. 03-lmfao

I used to watch those MAC tourney games when Chad and Greg did them (and EMU made the tourney, obviously).

That said, if the MAC had a 6-team double-elimination baseball tourney in Ohio before Covid.... (you know where this is going).

I propose a 6-team double elimination tourney for 2023.

Who is with me?

Who are going to believe me or wikipedia? 07-coffee3

1. MAC Website,

2. Wikipedia,

3. My memory... (no evidence of Covid fog).

4. N/A (not needed, based on #1 - 3).

https://getsomemaction.com/tournaments/?id=48

I went fishing using the Wikipedia link and settled on the 2016 MAC tourney.

I believe I may remember this tourney. EMU played in it and was an #8 seed. We lost our first game and then won I think two before losing a chance to play in the championship game. I believe we lost to Kent in the next to last game. If we had won we would have played Kent on Sunday in the championship game.

We beat Kent that Saturday morning to give them their one defeat. The Saturday night game would have knocked out EMU or Kent. Kent won. We went home.
Kent played two games on Saturday and ended up losing to a low seeded Western team on Sunday in the championship game.
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(05-17-2022 08:58 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-17-2022 08:12 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(05-16-2022 07:31 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Super, Wikipedia disagrees with you. Things have CHANGED since Covid, but before it was double-elimination for the MAC...

In its final format, the top six finishers participated in the double-elimination tournament, which was most recently played at Crushers Stadium in Avon, Ohio, from 2012 through 2019. The winner of the tournament received an automatic berth to the NCAA Division I Baseball Championship.
Official website: mac-sports.com/tournaments/...
Conference: Mid-American Conference
Played: 1981–1983; 1992–2019; 2022–present
Number of teams: 6

Super/Jerry, you guys are confusing me. I was going to call my doc for a 'Covid fog' assessment. 03-lmfao

I used to watch those MAC tourney games when Chad and Greg did them (and EMU made the tourney, obviously).

That said, if the MAC had a 6-team double-elimination baseball tourney in Ohio before Covid.... (you know where this is going).

I propose a 6-team double elimination tourney for 2023.

Who is with me?

Who are going to believe me or wikipedia? 07-coffee3

1. MAC Website,

2. Wikipedia,

3. My memory... (no evidence of Covid fog).

4. N/A (not needed, based on #1 - 3).

https://getsomemaction.com/tournaments/?id=48

I went fishing using the Wikipedia link and settled on the 2016 MAC tourney.

I believe I may remember this tourney. EMU played in it and was an #8 seed. We lost our first game and then won I think two before losing a chance to play in the championship game. I believe we lost to Kent in the next to last game. If we had won we would have played Kent on Sunday in the championship game.

We beat Kent that Saturday morning to give them their one defeat. The Saturday night game would have knocked out EMU or Kent. Kent won. We went home.
Kent played two games on Saturday and ended up losing to a low seeded Western team on Sunday in the championship game.

I honestly don't think I have ever seen an NCAA baseball or softball tourney that was NOT double elimination. The 1976 runner-up team was the last unbeaten team in the CWS, ASU just beat us twice to win it all. Today that format has changed, the final two teams are now matched in a best two of three.
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