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RE: EMU Baseball 2022
(02-09-2023 04:56 PM)Ken Barna Wrote: Dear Friends,
This last page or so, should be a different thread. It has nothing to do with baseball.
Thank you Ken!
WTF? Why are we discussing adding a soccer team? Land grants/acquisitions? Dick measuring contests…
Have a modicum of respect for the baseball program.
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02-09-2023 04:59 PM |
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RE: EMU Baseball 2022
(02-09-2023 09:43 AM)cidbearit Wrote: (02-08-2023 08:23 AM)emussuperfan Wrote: (02-08-2023 08:15 AM)dansplaining Wrote: (02-07-2023 05:25 PM)emu steve Wrote: (02-07-2023 03:20 PM)dansplaining Wrote: Another locker room, additional offices, they use different balls, new kits (thats soccer for jerseys)
We have the office space at the GG GA Center. Locker room? Assume what we use for other sports.
Jerseys, balls, etc. I don't consider infrastructure. They are consumables, if you will.
Each team gets its own locker room space.
Oh and coaches. Those cost money too.
I guess what I'm saying is that the expense to add men's soccer would be the lowest of any potential addition. IF we dropped baseball and added another sport I would anticipate a return to soccer.
U of M had a large land donation when it was started. EMU had no such donation. Any land EMU could buy reduces the tax base of the city and township. I sat on many meetings about this.
Yes, land going to EMU does reduce the tax base, but it could be argued that the economic benefit of students, staff, alumni, et cetrea living in/spending in Ypsilanti far outweigh any tax loss on new land acquisitions by EMU. Add in the value of EMU having it's own police force that serves both on-campus and off-campus and all the other ancillary benefits to Ypsilanti as a community, they should not complain about losing a few thousand dollars annually on any new land acquisition by the school.
All those were argued and debated. It came to nothing. Most students don't live in the area. And didn't add all that much to the tax base. As it been pointed out the city has little to spare when it comes to available land. The city argued the student as a whole are more of a liability than an asset. Most of the land in the township is industrial.
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emussuperfan
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RE: EMU Baseball 2022
(02-09-2023 09:50 AM)emu steve Wrote: (02-09-2023 09:43 AM)cidbearit Wrote: (02-08-2023 08:23 AM)emussuperfan Wrote: (02-08-2023 08:15 AM)dansplaining Wrote: (02-07-2023 05:25 PM)emu steve Wrote: We have the office space at the GG GA Center. Locker room? Assume what we use for other sports.
Jerseys, balls, etc. I don't consider infrastructure. They are consumables, if you will.
Each team gets its own locker room space.
Oh and coaches. Those cost money too.
I guess what I'm saying is that the expense to add men's soccer would be the lowest of any potential addition. IF we dropped baseball and added another sport I would anticipate a return to soccer.
U of M had a large land donation when it was started. EMU had no such donation. Any land EMU could buy reduces the tax base of the city and township. I sat on many meetings about this.
Yes, land going to EMU does reduce the tax base, but it could be argued that the economic benefit of students, staff, alumni, et cetrea living in/spending in Ypsilanti far outweigh any tax loss on new land acquisitions by EMU. Add in the value of EMU having it's own police force that serves both on-campus and off-campus and all the other ancillary benefits to Ypsilanti as a community, they should not complain about losing a few thousand dollars annually on any new land acquisition by the school.
I understand your point. Well taken. My question for the posters is: What land are we talking? I'm not aware of any large purchases this century.
Is EMU taking (buying) land and taking it off the tax rolls? Are are we putting it back in (the tax rolls) the old business school business.
EMU is a non profit entity there for is not on the tax roll.
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02-09-2023 05:26 PM |
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DemIggs2018
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RE: EMU Baseball 2022
If you believe that we're cutting baseball I've got some GREAT beachfront property to sell you in Nebraska. Fantastic views. Great price. Let me know.
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02-09-2023 06:07 PM |
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emu steve
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RE: EMU Baseball 2022
(02-09-2023 05:26 PM)emussuperfan Wrote: (02-09-2023 09:50 AM)emu steve Wrote: (02-09-2023 09:43 AM)cidbearit Wrote: (02-08-2023 08:23 AM)emussuperfan Wrote: (02-08-2023 08:15 AM)dansplaining Wrote: Each team gets its own locker room space.
Oh and coaches. Those cost money too.
I guess what I'm saying is that the expense to add men's soccer would be the lowest of any potential addition. IF we dropped baseball and added another sport I would anticipate a return to soccer.
U of M had a large land donation when it was started. EMU had no such donation. Any land EMU could buy reduces the tax base of the city and township. I sat on many meetings about this.
Yes, land going to EMU does reduce the tax base, but it could be argued that the economic benefit of students, staff, alumni, et cetrea living in/spending in Ypsilanti far outweigh any tax loss on new land acquisitions by EMU. Add in the value of EMU having it's own police force that serves both on-campus and off-campus and all the other ancillary benefits to Ypsilanti as a community, they should not complain about losing a few thousand dollars annually on any new land acquisition by the school.
I understand your point. Well taken. My question for the posters is: What land are we talking? I'm not aware of any large purchases this century.
Is EMU taking (buying) land and taking it off the tax rolls? Are are we putting it back in (the tax rolls) the old business school business.
EMU is a non profit entity there for is not on the tax roll.
Last comment. This thread is off the rails and getting counter intelligent.
EMU, a non-profit can buy or sell land to/from another non-profit or for profit company or individual.
EMU, a non-profit bought the Catholic chapel from a non-profit, the Catholic diocese. NO effect on taxes.
EMU, a non-profit, sold the Gary Owens building to a for profit company. The building went ON TO the tax rolls by benefit of its sale to a for profit company.
All very simple. Think we ALL know this stuff. Don't need to study accounting, etc.
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02-09-2023 06:10 PM |
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emussuperfan
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RE: EMU Baseball 2022
(02-09-2023 06:10 PM)emu steve Wrote: (02-09-2023 05:26 PM)emussuperfan Wrote: (02-09-2023 09:50 AM)emu steve Wrote: (02-09-2023 09:43 AM)cidbearit Wrote: (02-08-2023 08:23 AM)emussuperfan Wrote: U of M had a large land donation when it was started. EMU had no such donation. Any land EMU could buy reduces the tax base of the city and township. I sat on many meetings about this.
Yes, land going to EMU does reduce the tax base, but it could be argued that the economic benefit of students, staff, alumni, et cetrea living in/spending in Ypsilanti far outweigh any tax loss on new land acquisitions by EMU. Add in the value of EMU having it's own police force that serves both on-campus and off-campus and all the other ancillary benefits to Ypsilanti as a community, they should not complain about losing a few thousand dollars annually on any new land acquisition by the school.
I understand your point. Well taken. My question for the posters is: What land are we talking? I'm not aware of any large purchases this century.
Is EMU taking (buying) land and taking it off the tax rolls? Are are we putting it back in (the tax rolls) the old business school business.
EMU is a non profit entity there for is not on the tax roll.
Last comment. This thread is off the rails and getting counter intelligent.
EMU, a non-profit can buy or sell land to/from another non-profit or for profit company or individual.
EMU, a non-profit bought the Catholic chapel from a non-profit, the Catholic diocese. NO effect on taxes.
EMU, a non-profit, sold the Gary Owens building to a for profit company. The building went ON TO the tax rolls by benefit of its sale to a for profit company.
All very simple. Think we ALL know this stuff. Don't need to study accounting, etc.
Only on your part! Duh! I had to take accounting 2 semester! It's not my fault you can't understand English. My last post on this . Counter intelligent my ass! It as okay until you added stupid remark!
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emu steve
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RE: EMU Baseball 2022
(02-09-2023 06:10 PM)emu steve Wrote: (02-09-2023 05:26 PM)emussuperfan Wrote: (02-09-2023 09:50 AM)emu steve Wrote: (02-09-2023 09:43 AM)cidbearit Wrote: (02-08-2023 08:23 AM)emussuperfan Wrote: U of M had a large land donation when it was started. EMU had no such donation. Any land EMU could buy reduces the tax base of the city and township. I sat on many meetings about this.
Yes, land going to EMU does reduce the tax base, but it could be argued that the economic benefit of students, staff, alumni, et cetrea living in/spending in Ypsilanti far outweigh any tax loss on new land acquisitions by EMU. Add in the value of EMU having it's own police force that serves both on-campus and off-campus and all the other ancillary benefits to Ypsilanti as a community, they should not complain about losing a few thousand dollars annually on any new land acquisition by the school.
I understand your point. Well taken. My question for the posters is: What land are we talking? I'm not aware of any large purchases this century.
Is EMU taking (buying) land and taking it off the tax rolls? Are are we putting it back in (the tax rolls) the old business school business.
EMU is a non profit entity there for is not on the tax roll.
Last comment. This thread is off the rails and getting counter intelligent.
EMU, a non-profit can buy or sell land to/from another non-profit or for profit company or individual.
EMU, a non-profit bought the Catholic chapel from a non-profit, the Catholic diocese. NO effect on taxes.
EMU, a non-profit, sold the Gary Owens building to a for profit company. The building went ON TO the tax rolls by benefit of its sale to a for profit company.
All very simple. Think we ALL know this stuff. Don't need to study accounting, etc.
Six miles west, a university does whatever it wants to, tax rolls be damned. When the Edwards Brothers book plant closed for sale on State Street, U-M circumvented the local law of allowing the City to match any U-M offer by paying an astronomical price for the land. Blue had the money and now has a world class tennis, lacrosse and soccer facility.
Blue also has a huge video board in front of the "Big House" that does not conform to city regulations. When confronted by city council, they declared that were "exempt" from local laws as they are a chartered by the State of Michigan and that the board will stay, and it has.
EMU has a FAR more community conscience than is legally required. Any discussion otherwise is truthfully feckless in nature. Let's get back to baseball.
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