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RE: CUSA's Standoff
This is Judy’s Last Stand Hill. Either she wins this thing and brings in big revenue for CUSA, or she bleeds the conference coffers dry with a failed attempt at enforcing undefined penalties and she becomes the heel. Personally, I think she should be checking out places to eat in Dover, DE.
02-17-2022 07:55 PM
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(02-17-2022 06:53 PM)hburg Wrote:  An emergency board meeting has been called at Marshall for Monday.



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Maybe I'm a bit slow, but what is Mac Warner (Sec of State for WV for onlookers) having a meeting and not AG Morrisey?
02-17-2022 08:07 PM
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RE: CUSA's Standoff
(02-17-2022 07:55 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  This is Judy’s Last Stand Hill. Either she wins this thing and brings in big revenue for CUSA, or she bleeds the conference coffers dry with a failed attempt at enforcing undefined penalties and she becomes the heel. Personally, I think she should be checking out places to eat in Dover, DE.

. . . .. even IF she wins, she won’t be bringing in any “big revenue.” Any revenue windfall that C-DOA sees will be short term, and probably not much more than the exit fees the 3 would have to pay when they leave.

If it’s revenue from a court settlement (because the 3 leave early), again, it’ll be a one time penalty paid by the departing programs, and probably won’t amount to more than the revenue the 3 programs would have seen had they not left early.

The larger financial problem looming for C-DOA is trying to negotiate a “better TV deal” with that in-coming collection of stiffs that will formally make up the “New” C-DOA.

Personally, I don’t see that deal being much better than their current one.

C-DOA will survive, Judy may not, as the Bottom Conference of The G-5. But hey, someone’s gotta finish last . . .
02-17-2022 08:33 PM
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RE: CUSA's Standoff
(02-17-2022 07:55 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 04:14 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 04:10 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 03:03 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 02:49 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  How do you make somebody stay somewhere they’ve already left?

At that point, CUSA’s only hope is financial damages, which again just puts things back where they could’ve been months ago.

SBC3: I'm moving out of my apartment.

CUSA: But you can't you signed a lease.

SBC3: I got a new job out of state, I start in June.

CUSA: Nope you have to stay in this apartment for the rest of the year.

SBC3: What are you gonna do if I don't?

CUSA: uhhhhhh.

A lot of apartment complexes do make you pay a penalty fee if try to get out of your lease early.... just saying. 07-coffee3

Yeah we tried to pay the penalty back in December and January but the Apartment Complex refused to take our money. 07-coffee3

Yeah, and the amount of that penalty fee is stated in the lease.

And the fee almost always the same whether you move out the day after notification of breaking the lease or wait the full notice period.
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If cusa allow the first aac teams out without penalty, why should the sbc3 be any different and doesn't that also set a precedence?

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(02-17-2022 08:07 PM)HerdFanGuest Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 06:53 PM)hburg Wrote:  An emergency board meeting has been called at Marshall for Monday.



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Maybe I'm a bit slow, but what is Mac Warner (Sec of State for WV for onlookers) having a meeting and not AG Morrisey?

I don’t think that means they’re meeting with Warner himself. It’s just his office’s record/announcement of the meeting being scheduled.
02-17-2022 09:15 PM
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(02-17-2022 08:33 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 07:55 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  This is Judy’s Last Stand Hill. Either she wins this thing and brings in big revenue for CUSA, or she bleeds the conference coffers dry with a failed attempt at enforcing undefined penalties and she becomes the heel. Personally, I think she should be checking out places to eat in Dover, DE.

. . . .. even IF she wins, she won’t be bringing in any “big revenue.” Any revenue windfall that C-DOA sees will be short term, and probably not much more than the exit fees the 3 would have to pay when they leave.

If it’s revenue from a court settlement (because the 3 leave early), again, it’ll be a one time penalty paid by the departing programs, and probably won’t amount to more than the revenue the 3 programs would have seen had they not left early.

The larger financial problem looming for C-DOA is trying to negotiate a “better TV deal” with that in-coming collection of stiffs that will formally make up the “New” C-DOA.

Personally, I don’t see that deal being much better than their current one.

C-DOA will survive, Judy may not, as the Bottom Conference of The G-5. But hey, someone’s gotta finish last . . .

Even if an arbitrator were to set the damages at a full year of CUSA’s total media income for all 14 teams, that works out to $1.8 million apiece from each the 3. Would it sting? Sure. Is it going to carry the league through the next 4years? Hell naw. CUSA’s not going to be awarded big money because it doesn’t deal in big money.

Again, if you dropped the WVU vs. Big East deal down to CUSA proportions based on media income, we’d each owe an additional $700-800k.
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RE: CUSA's Standoff
(02-17-2022 09:15 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 08:07 PM)HerdFanGuest Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 06:53 PM)hburg Wrote:  An emergency board meeting has been called at Marshall for Monday.



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Maybe I'm a bit slow, but what is Mac Warner (Sec of State for WV for onlookers) having a meeting and not AG Morrisey?

I don’t think that means they’re meeting with Warner himself. It’s just his office’s record/announcement of the meeting being scheduled.

This has to do with the AD approval.
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(02-17-2022 09:55 PM)Herdfan07 Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 09:15 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 08:07 PM)HerdFanGuest Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 06:53 PM)hburg Wrote:  An emergency board meeting has been called at Marshall for Monday.



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Maybe I'm a bit slow, but what is Mac Warner (Sec of State for WV for onlookers) having a meeting and not AG Morrisey?

I don’t think that means they’re meeting with Warner himself. It’s just his office’s record/announcement of the meeting being scheduled.

This has to do with the AD approval.

Welp. That’s that for now.
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RE: CUSA's Standoff
(02-17-2022 09:15 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 08:07 PM)HerdFanGuest Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 06:53 PM)hburg Wrote:  An emergency board meeting has been called at Marshall for Monday.



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Maybe I'm a bit slow, but what is Mac Warner (Sec of State for WV for onlookers) having a meeting and not AG Morrisey?

I don’t think that means they’re meeting with Warner himself. It’s just his office’s record/announcement of the meeting being scheduled.

I didn't figure he'd be involved, I was just wondering what his office had to do with it. But to be fair, I really don't know what all that office deals with
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RE: CUSA's Standoff
(02-17-2022 08:07 PM)HerdFanGuest Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 06:53 PM)hburg Wrote:  An emergency board meeting has been called at Marshall for Monday.



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Maybe I'm a bit slow, but what is Mac Warner (Sec of State for WV for onlookers) having a meeting and not AG Morrisey?

I mean...it could have to do with our New AD being picked..Judy's not worth a formal meeting..
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RE: CUSA's Standoff
(02-18-2022 01:04 AM)Herdfan1 Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 08:07 PM)HerdFanGuest Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 06:53 PM)hburg Wrote:  An emergency board meeting has been called at Marshall for Monday.



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Maybe I'm a bit slow, but what is Mac Warner (Sec of State for WV for onlookers) having a meeting and not AG Morrisey?

I mean...it could have to do with our New AD being picked..Judy's not worth a formal meeting..
I have been wondering if State Attorney Generals would get involved.
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In WV are the universities under HEPC considered as a state agency? Obviously they receive taxpayer funds but don’t know what policies and rules apply.

If so, WV agencies can be sued but monies for a judgement have to be appropriated and approved by the state legislature. In general terms, the state can be sued and lose but not pay judgements if funds are not appropriated. I don’t know the history of claims not paid but understand it is a tool to protect the state from making huge cuts in a fiscal year as well as to protect taxpayers from unreasonable judgements.

Possible interesting wrinkle that would encourage a reasonable person to negotiate rather than going straight to court, not passing go and not collecting $200 of Monopoly money (reasonable being a key word).
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Well apparently this is a federal matter according to someone... Which isn't.
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(02-18-2022 10:48 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Well apparently this is a federal matter according to someone... Which isn't.
A threat to national security.





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(02-17-2022 08:07 PM)HerdFanGuest Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 06:53 PM)hburg Wrote:  An emergency board meeting has been called at Marshall for Monday.



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Maybe I'm a bit slow, but what is Mac Warner (Sec of State for WV for onlookers) having a meeting and not AG Morrisey?

Patrick Ferrell is on the Marshall BOG and he included a #GoHerd tag. Other than that I have no idea why Warner is included. Maybe it was an easy way to screenshot the calendar and Warner is just included because it is a shared calendar.
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(02-18-2022 01:12 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 08:07 PM)HerdFanGuest Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 06:53 PM)hburg Wrote:  An emergency board meeting has been called at Marshall for Monday.



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Maybe I'm a bit slow, but what is Mac Warner (Sec of State for WV for onlookers) having a meeting and not AG Morrisey?

Patrick Ferrell is on the Marshall BOG and he included a #GoHerd tag. Other than that I have no idea why Warner is included. Maybe it was an easy way to screenshot the calendar and Warner is just included because it is a shared calendar.

Probably the required agency to announce government meeting notices IAW some regulation. Here's the full calendar: https://apps.sos.wv.gov/adlaw/meetingnotices/
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