According to Matt Brown, who many on here are familiar with because of his Twitter... CUSA supposedly reached out to NDSU, as well as other MVFC members to see if they were interested in potentially joining CUSA.

They told CUSA they were not interested.

The writer also noted that "every indication I've gotten from NDSU is that it is not interested in joining CUSA. At all. Zero interest. I received that indication even before all the conference shakeups. CUSA was a mishmash of a conference before realignment and it's even more so now."

https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-med...-denies-it

Interesting, although I will say that I would not fault any NDSU supporter who wanted to go CUSA just to be FBS. I still think the distinction is worth taking on some issues for. BUT...I don't approach it from the perspective of a CFB fan living in the Dakotas.

It’s a shame NDSU is in the middle of nowhere, they’d be a good add. That said, if they weren’t in the middle of nowhere they’d already be FBS.

(02-12-2022 08:40 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Interesting, although I will say that I would not fault any NDSU supporter who wanted to go CUSA just to be FBS. I still think the distinction is worth taking on some issues for. BUT...I don't approach it from the perspective of a CFB fan living in the Dakotas.

They have a lot of strong teams and nearby rivalries in the MVFC, schools like SDSU, UND, UNI.

I can't imagine their fanbase getting stoked about playing UTEP, NMSU, JSU, and SHSU with no real media deal. Think I saw they make something like $1.8M on their own deal now with a regional ABC affiliate. Their big complaint about FCS is how weak the competition was, but SHSU and JSU are seen as relative scrub teams in FCS, playing them at FBS won't be a step up and they would lose their big rivals. NDSU would be competitive with MWC teams today, maybe even win that conference.

Aside from one or two agitators, I think NDSU is relatively happy with going to their Frisco bowl game most years and claiming the most nattys. They would jump for the MWC, but CUSA would be a downgrade for them and might destroy their fanbase. The catch 22 is some are getting bored with FCS also. They are stuck in no-mans land unless MAC or MWC throw them a rope.

I think the North Dakota schools "hope" to one day joint the Mountain West.

(02-12-2022 11:16 AM)rileylives Wrote:  I think the North Dakota schools "hope" to one day joint the Mountain West.

I don't ever see the B12 coming after SDSU or Boise. And neither of those have a shot at the PAC. So NDSU if they actually want a spot will have to take it from somewhere like CUSA. I don't ever see the MWC giving them one. Not straight from IAA anyway.

(02-12-2022 11:38 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 11:16 AM)rileylives Wrote:  I think the North Dakota schools "hope" to one day joint the Mountain West.

I don't ever see the B12 coming after SDSU or Boise. And neither of those have a shot at the PAC. So NDSU if they actually want a spot will have to take it from somewhere like CUSA. I don't ever see the MWC giving them one. Not straight from IAA anyway.

I still believe the Big 12 is going to continue to get raided on the next round of realignment, so I can absolutely see Boise being offered a Big 12 spot, and the Dakota schools jumping to the Mountain West, I think that's their hope and play.

Pac10 has already told Boise no a few years ago. As for Big XII, that depends on how Boise recovers from their current drought.
They had not so "Boise" years the last two. If that continues, well, Big 12 might not be as interested as many think.

(02-12-2022 10:51 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 08:40 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Interesting, although I will say that I would not fault any NDSU supporter who wanted to go CUSA just to be FBS. I still think the distinction is worth taking on some issues for. BUT...I don't approach it from the perspective of a CFB fan living in the Dakotas.

They have a lot of strong teams and nearby rivalries in the MVFC, schools like SDSU, UND, UNI.

I can't imagine their fanbase getting stoked about playing UTEP, NMSU, JSU, and SHSU with no real media deal. Think I saw they make something like $1.8M on their own deal now with a regional ABC affiliate. Their big complaint about FCS is how weak the competition was, but SHSU and JSU are seen as relative scrub teams in FCS, playing them at FBS won't be a step up and they would lose their big rivals. NDSU would be competitive with MWC teams today, maybe even win that conference.

Aside from one or two agitators, I think NDSU is relatively happy with going to their Frisco bowl game most years and claiming the most nattys. They would jump for the MWC, but CUSA would be a downgrade for them and might destroy their fanbase. The catch 22 is some are getting bored with FCS also. They are stuck in no-mans land unless MAC or MWC throw them a rope.

Most of their supporters are probably content with the status quo. However, it’s obvious all aren’t as they had empty seats in the Fargo Dome during the playoffs.

Well they have standards. Also trips to the four winds isn't exactly viable long-term.

Geographically the best FBS conference for them, (and highly unlikely despite proving they can play and beat its members) is the B1G. Especially with the proximity to Minnesota and Iowa. But I don't see that happening.

Most of those MVC/Big Sky teams probably wouldn't move up unless there was a mass exodus/merger of those two conferences which featured teams out of Idaho, Montana, Dakotas and Iowa...I'm sure CUSA would sign them tomorrow if they wanted but that conference is already stretched out as it is.

Someone check on Lakes. He campaigned so hard

(02-12-2022 11:40 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 11:38 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 11:16 AM)rileylives Wrote:  I think the North Dakota schools "hope" to one day joint the Mountain West.

I don't ever see the B12 coming after SDSU or Boise. And neither of those have a shot at the PAC. So NDSU if they actually want a spot will have to take it from somewhere like CUSA. I don't ever see the MWC giving them one. Not straight from IAA anyway.

I still believe the Big 12 is going to continue to get raided on the next round of realignment, so I can absolutely see Boise being offered a Big 12 spot, and the Dakota schools jumping to the Mountain West, I think that's their hope and play.

If you have more leave, in excess of 3-5 or more the B12 will cease to be a so called Power Conference. At that point what would be the benefit of leaving the MWC then. Why join a bunch of urban CUSA2.0 schools plus BYU if that is the case. And well just as soon as the B12 was to lose power status I don't see BYU hanging around, they would just go back to indy status and well the WCC will always welcome them back.

(02-12-2022 01:03 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 11:40 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 11:38 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 11:16 AM)rileylives Wrote:  I think the North Dakota schools "hope" to one day joint the Mountain West.

I don't ever see the B12 coming after SDSU or Boise. And neither of those have a shot at the PAC. So NDSU if they actually want a spot will have to take it from somewhere like CUSA. I don't ever see the MWC giving them one. Not straight from IAA anyway.

I still believe the Big 12 is going to continue to get raided on the next round of realignment, so I can absolutely see Boise being offered a Big 12 spot, and the Dakota schools jumping to the Mountain West, I think that's their hope and play.

If you have more leave, in excess of 3-5 or more the B12 will cease to be a so called Power Conference. At that point what would be the benefit of leaving the MWC then. Why join a bunch of urban CUSA2.0 schools plus BYU if that is the case. And well just as soon as the B12 was to lose power status I don't see BYU hanging around, they would just go back to indy status and well the WCC will always welcome them back.

I argue the Big 12 is no longer a power conference anyway without Texas and Oklahoma, but you still saw multiple teams make the move.

(02-12-2022 11:40 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 11:38 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 11:16 AM)rileylives Wrote:  I think the North Dakota schools "hope" to one day joint the Mountain West.

I don't ever see the B12 coming after SDSU or Boise. And neither of those have a shot at the PAC. So NDSU if they actually want a spot will have to take it from somewhere like CUSA. I don't ever see the MWC giving them one. Not straight from IAA anyway.

I still believe the Big 12 is going to continue to get raided on the next round of realignment, so I can absolutely see Boise being offered a Big 12 spot, and the Dakota schools jumping to the Mountain West, I think that's their hope and play.

I agree. If the Big 12 gets raided any further is it even a power league anymore? Adding UCF and maybe Boise, would give them 2 new members with sub 200m endowments. Nothing about that says P5. They need huge endowments AND on field success to keep Power status long term in my opinion. Not many options available. It has more to do about money than any on field success anyway. This is why the Big 12 is slowly being exiled from their power status by the other 4. This is why current members would jump in a heartbeat. That's the direction they are headed. They should hold on as long as possible and be very reluctant with any further decisions that will make their split from the other 4 any larger.

Certain twitter person nu uh. I’m not affiliated but that’s not true. Everyone should want to be here

The Big XII is what the Big East was right before they let in ECU. The Big XII will be raided for OkSt and Kansas, I’m sure a couple others, the rest will fall back to “G5” status, which is where they were before the Big 12 needed to backfill after Nebraska, TxA&M and Mizzou left.

I about fell out my chair when I first learned this. After some thought it is most definitely the right call for NDSU. No reason to leave a stable situation for a ticking time bomb. They would possibly consider the MAC but it is MW or bust for NDSU.

(02-12-2022 04:58 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Certain twitter person nu uh. I’m not affiliated but that’s not true. Everyone should want to be here

They have like 3 followers and can't post here so take screen shots and ramble foolishly into the twitterverse. A certain banned poster and a couple of LU flukies.

(02-12-2022 05:57 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 04:58 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Certain twitter person nu uh. I’m not affiliated but that’s not true. Everyone should want to be here

They have like 3 followers and can't post here so take screen shots and ramble foolishly into the twitterverse. A certain banned poster and a couple of LU flukies.

the B12 schools will never be G5..some of them are the flagship schools of their state and draw huge numbers of fans and dollars of support in a whole different world from pretty much every G5 school. when Texas Tech or Iowa State or TCU start drawing 15-20,000 for football or 2500 for basketball games, maybe but not I dont see it happening.

(02-15-2022 03:45 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 05:57 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 04:58 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Certain twitter person nu uh. I’m not affiliated but that’s not true. Everyone should want to be here

They have like 3 followers and can't post here so take screen shots and ramble foolishly into the twitterverse. A certain banned poster and a couple of LU flukies.

the B12 schools will never be G5..some of them are the flagship schools of their state and draw huge numbers of fans and dollars of support in a whole different world from pretty much every G5 school. when Texas Tech or Iowa State or TCU start drawing 15-20,000 for football or 2500 for basketball games, maybe but not I dont see it happening.

Huh?