(02-03-2022 10:51 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 10:44 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 10:31 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 10:04 AM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 10:11 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  I think it will be more mental than physical as the season goes on. I don't want to tell Sampson how to coach, but I think he needs to pace himself. Houston plays at a break neck speed every game, and that's not easy to maintain wire to wire. Especially if you're short handed.

Sampson knows his team and how to pace the talent he has. Unlike other coaches, his culture brings the best among his players.

Yeah it seems to be working, but he was so focused on getting street cred and a good seed last year, it seemed to hurt them in the tournament. I know they made the FF last year but it was a struggle.

After the first game, they seemed to be playing to survive every game against teams that had nothing to lose. Nobody they beat had a seed in single digits. They didn't look the same to me. They gutted it out, but they really didn't look the same.

This year is different. He can get there again but he's running out of bullets. He can't afford to lose any more players at this point. JMO, but I think I'm right.

You’re hilarious. Houston went to a final 4 because Sampson coached too hard.

Every team we beat had just beat a high seed , and was a damn good team.

I’ll try to better understand your thought.

Yes our games last season took a lot from the team.

But winning them gave them so much toughness and stamina for 40 minutes that when Rutgers of all people were leading late in the game they survived and advanced

Ok....So what happened against Baylor? Baylor was fantastic, but no way were they better than Houston by that much.

(02-03-2022 10:54 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Ok....So what happened against Baylor? Baylor was fantastic, but no way were they better than Houston by that much.

they beat a historic Gonzaga team as badly as they beat us...

1st being baylor lived by the 3 and died by the 3, luckily for them every shot was falling in the final 4/championship
they shot 50% from 3, despite being hounded by houston main defenders who were all 6'5

but specifically with houston, their defensive strategy was amazing... it was a game of chess where they won...
they had 1 elite level defender (davion mitchell), almost everyone thought theyd put him on grimes (who was scoring most of our points)..they didnt, they put mitchell on dejon (our point - only pg on roster) and started hounding him from half-court and refused to let any offense be set up by him ..which threw everything off...

if we rematched we'd have faired better as we would have been more prepared to create offense without dejon

(02-03-2022 11:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 10:54 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Ok....So what happened against Baylor? Baylor was fantastic, but no way were they better than Houston by that much.

they beat a historic Gonzaga team as badly as they beat us...

1st being baylor lived by the 3 and died by the 3, luckily for them every shot was falling in the final 4/championship
they shot 50% from 3, despite being hounded by houston main defenders who were all 6'5

but specifically with houston, their defensive strategy was amazing... it was a game of chess where they won...
they had 1 elite level defender (davion mitchell), almost everyone thought theyd put him on grimes (who was scoring most of our points)..they didnt, they put mitchell on dejon (our point - only pg on roster) and started hounding him from half-court and refused to let any offense be set up by him ..which threw everything off...

if we rematched we'd have faired better as we would have been more prepared to create offense without dejon

I hear ya, but Houston looked a little spooked in that game. They were cocky as hell against us. They didn't look that way against Baylor. Baylor wasn't that good. Great guards but Houston was like Velociraptors all year. they really looked tentative against Baylor. That was not the team we played.

(02-03-2022 11:52 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 10:54 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Ok....So what happened against Baylor? Baylor was fantastic, but no way were they better than Houston by that much.

they beat a historic Gonzaga team as badly as they beat us...

1st being baylor lived by the 3 and died by the 3, luckily for them every shot was falling in the final 4/championship
they shot 50% from 3, despite being hounded by houston main defenders who were all 6'5

but specifically with houston, their defensive strategy was amazing... it was a game of chess where they won...
they had 1 elite level defender (davion mitchell), almost everyone thought theyd put him on grimes (who was scoring most of our points)..they didnt, they put mitchell on dejon (our point - only pg on roster) and started hounding him from half-court and refused to let any offense be set up by him ..which threw everything off...

if we rematched we'd have faired better as we would have been more prepared to create offense without dejon

I hear ya, but Houston looked a little spooked in that game. They were cocky as hell against us. They didn't look that way against Baylor. Baylor wasn't that good. Great guards but Houston was like Velociraptors all year. they really looked tentative against Baylor. That was not the team we played.

Baylor, the 2021 national championship team wasn’t that good. Ok bro. We play games for a reason. Houston and baylor both had a full week to prepare for each other. Baylor had 3 senior leaders on their team that knew what they were doing. And I tip my hat to them, they out played our 2021 team. They deserved the win. And I don’t think that takes anything at all from the final four team. The team that made it to the final four didn’t just get good at the end. They were winning games all year long. Besides an ecu loss and a baylor loss they were in every game if my memory serves me correct. (That ecu loss could have been the previous year and we might have been blown out one other game) I’m not as avid a fan as pesik but I do pay attention.

(02-03-2022 11:52 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 10:54 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Ok....So what happened against Baylor? Baylor was fantastic, but no way were they better than Houston by that much.

they beat a historic Gonzaga team as badly as they beat us...

1st being baylor lived by the 3 and died by the 3, luckily for them every shot was falling in the final 4/championship
they shot 50% from 3, despite being hounded by houston main defenders who were all 6'5

but specifically with houston, their defensive strategy was amazing... it was a game of chess where they won...
they had 1 elite level defender (davion mitchell), almost everyone thought theyd put him on grimes (who was scoring most of our points)..they didnt, they put mitchell on dejon (our point - only pg on roster) and started hounding him from half-court and refused to let any offense be set up by him ..which threw everything off...

if we rematched we'd have faired better as we would have been more prepared to create offense without dejon

I hear ya, but Houston looked a little spooked in that game. They were cocky as hell against us. They didn't look that way against Baylor. Baylor wasn't that good. Great guards but Houston was like Velociraptors all year. they really looked tentative against Baylor. That was not the team we played.

that was my point...i dont think houston was "spooked" but we were out of sorts... becuase they took dejon out of the game

dejon set up the offense for housston most of the season, and teams would put their best defenders on grimes... so most of the season was grimes scrambling around to get open/shots against opposing teams best D, with dejon getting him the ball in those spots
Baylor was unique in that they put their best D on dejon instead- they focused their Defense on not letting dejon set up anything (Even though dejon himself isnt a scorer) half-court pressing Dejon with Mitchell ..which forced everyone else into a lot of bad ISO offense

i dont think houston was spooked, just discombobulated, dejon ran our offense, and when they took dejon out, we didnt adjust on how to run the offense smoothly without him

and baylor beat a historic Gonzaga by 30 in the championship , they were that good

(02-04-2022 12:20 AM)vcoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:52 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 10:54 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Ok....So what happened against Baylor? Baylor was fantastic, but no way were they better than Houston by that much.

they beat a historic Gonzaga team as badly as they beat us...

1st being baylor lived by the 3 and died by the 3, luckily for them every shot was falling in the final 4/championship
they shot 50% from 3, despite being hounded by houston main defenders who were all 6'5

but specifically with houston, their defensive strategy was amazing... it was a game of chess where they won...
they had 1 elite level defender (davion mitchell), almost everyone thought theyd put him on grimes (who was scoring most of our points)..they didnt, they put mitchell on dejon (our point - only pg on roster) and started hounding him from half-court and refused to let any offense be set up by him ..which threw everything off...

if we rematched we'd have faired better as we would have been more prepared to create offense without dejon

I hear ya, but Houston looked a little spooked in that game. They were cocky as hell against us. They didn't look that way against Baylor. Baylor wasn't that good. Great guards but Houston was like Velociraptors all year. they really looked tentative against Baylor. That was not the team we played.

Baylor, the 2021 national championship team wasn’t that good. Ok bro. We play games for a reason. Houston and baylor both had a full week to prepare for each other. Baylor had 3 senior leaders on their team that knew what they were doing. And I tip my hat to them, they out played our 2021 team. They deserved the win. And I don’t think that takes anything at all from the final four team. The team that made it to the final four didn’t just get good at the end. They were winning games all year long. Besides an ecu loss and a baylor loss they were in every game if my memory serves me correct. (That ecu loss could have been the previous year and we might have been blown out one other game) I’m not as avid a fan as pesik but I do pay attention.

Ok........They got destroyed. See P's post for a sense of sanity. They got their ass kicked 6 ways to Sunday.

(02-04-2022 12:20 AM)vcoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:52 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 10:54 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Ok....So what happened against Baylor? Baylor was fantastic, but no way were they better than Houston by that much.

they beat a historic Gonzaga team as badly as they beat us...

1st being baylor lived by the 3 and died by the 3, luckily for them every shot was falling in the final 4/championship
they shot 50% from 3, despite being hounded by houston main defenders who were all 6'5

but specifically with houston, their defensive strategy was amazing... it was a game of chess where they won...
they had 1 elite level defender (davion mitchell), almost everyone thought theyd put him on grimes (who was scoring most of our points)..they didnt, they put mitchell on dejon (our point - only pg on roster) and started hounding him from half-court and refused to let any offense be set up by him ..which threw everything off...

if we rematched we'd have faired better as we would have been more prepared to create offense without dejon

I hear ya, but Houston looked a little spooked in that game. They were cocky as hell against us. They didn't look that way against Baylor. Baylor wasn't that good. Great guards but Houston was like Velociraptors all year. they really looked tentative against Baylor. That was not the team we played.

Baylor, the 2021 national championship team wasn’t that good. Ok bro. We play games for a reason. Houston and baylor both had a full week to prepare for each other. Baylor had 3 senior leaders on their team that knew what they were doing. And I tip my hat to them, they out played our 2021 team. They deserved the win. And I don’t think that takes anything at all from the final four team. The team that made it to the final four didn’t just get good at the end. They were winning games all year long. Besides an ecu loss and a baylor loss they were in every game if my memory serves me correct. (That ecu loss could have been the previous year and we might have been blown out one other game) I’m not as avid a fan as pesik but I do pay attention.

This shows how fking dumb you are. I said Baylor was a fantastic team. Memphis played Kansas in 08. A great team who we took to overtime in the championship game.

You got your balls blown off in the semi finals. Quit acting like Baylor was the god of basketball. You got destroyed! You looked like last years Tulane.

(02-04-2022 01:08 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(02-04-2022 12:20 AM)vcoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:52 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 10:54 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Ok....So what happened against Baylor? Baylor was fantastic, but no way were they better than Houston by that much.

they beat a historic Gonzaga team as badly as they beat us...

1st being baylor lived by the 3 and died by the 3, luckily for them every shot was falling in the final 4/championship
they shot 50% from 3, despite being hounded by houston main defenders who were all 6'5

but specifically with houston, their defensive strategy was amazing... it was a game of chess where they won...
they had 1 elite level defender (davion mitchell), almost everyone thought theyd put him on grimes (who was scoring most of our points)..they didnt, they put mitchell on dejon (our point - only pg on roster) and started hounding him from half-court and refused to let any offense be set up by him ..which threw everything off...

if we rematched we'd have faired better as we would have been more prepared to create offense without dejon

I hear ya, but Houston looked a little spooked in that game. They were cocky as hell against us. They didn't look that way against Baylor. Baylor wasn't that good. Great guards but Houston was like Velociraptors all year. they really looked tentative against Baylor. That was not the team we played.

Baylor, the 2021 national championship team wasn’t that good. Ok bro. We play games for a reason. Houston and baylor both had a full week to prepare for each other. Baylor had 3 senior leaders on their team that knew what they were doing. And I tip my hat to them, they out played our 2021 team. They deserved the win. And I don’t think that takes anything at all from the final four team. The team that made it to the final four didn’t just get good at the end. They were winning games all year long. Besides an ecu loss and a baylor loss they were in every game if my memory serves me correct. (That ecu loss could have been the previous year and we might have been blown out one other game) I’m not as avid a fan as pesik but I do pay attention.

This shows how fking dumb you are. I said Baylor was a fantastic team. Memphis played Kansas in 08. A great team who we took to overtime in the championship game.

You got your balls blown off in the semi finals. Quit acting like Baylor was the god of basketball. You got destroyed! You looked like last years Tulane.

Gonzaga was one of the best teams you can even have and baylor made easy work to win the National championship . From pre season to the tournament every media outlet was salivating at how good they were and baylor easily beat them. So yes houston lost to baylor too. Big whoop. It wasn’t because Sampson coached them too hard lmao what even was our recruiting ranking of that team probably not even top 50 and we were in the final 4.

Memphis knows a little about pre season hype but your coach is a ***** who didn’t push his players to be a team and now look at you trying to judge Sampson for getting a cookie cutter team to the final 4 and witnessing him to the same thing again with only one starter from last year. Really you need to assess your arguments just say dang I wonder if houston can keep this up because no one knows the answer to that. What we know thus far is he’s been able to win games and rise in the rankings when he wasn’t expected to. Memphis has done the opposite