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Court ruling puts mail-in voting on hold in Pennsylvania

Quote:A statewide court says Pennsylvania’s expansive two-year-old mail-in voting law is unconstitutional, agreeing with challenges by Republicans who soured on mail-in voting after then-President Donald Trump began baselessly attacking it as rife with fraud in 2020′s campaign.

According to a Commonwealth Court filing released Friday, the court ruled that Act 77, allowing residents to vote by mail in Pennsylvania, violates Article VII, Section 1 of the Pennsylvania constitution.

The Commonwealth Court denied the Pa. Department of State acting secretary's application for summary relief.
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They used the plandemic to issue unconstitutional elections rules and guidelines that went around Republican state legislatures approval so as to fortify the election after midnight on Nov 4. They used that ‘unusual’ pause to calculate what they needed to overcome the deficit in the count
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All rules were thrown out b/c it was a pandemic, ie the state could forbid you from going to church, etc. Trump should've just said 'since it's a pandemic, we're not holding the election till it's done.' We all knew what they were doing when Democrat governors made mail-in ballots a top priority once the lockdowns began.

(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  They used the plandemic to issue unconstitutional elections rules and guidelines that went around Republican state legislatures approval so as to fortify the election after midnight on Nov 4. They used that ‘unusual’ pause to calculate what they needed to overcome the deficit in the count

No kidding
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https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/14...0597073924

wait until the state’s liberal supreme court weighs in ...

DON’T GET YOUR HOPES UP
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(01-28-2022 10:38 AM)green Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/14...0597073924

wait until the state’s liberal supreme court weighs in ...

DON’T GET YOUR HOPES UP

NO shite ... right now, I'll take any win in the 5 states that fk'd #henceDJT
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(01-28-2022 10:41 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:38 AM)green Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/14...0597073924

wait until the state’s liberal supreme court weighs in ...

DON’T GET YOUR HOPES UP

NO shite ... right now, I'll take any win in the 5 states that fk'd #henceDJT

STICK IT UP YOUR ASS
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(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  All rules were thrown out b/c it was a pandemic, ie the state could forbid you from going to church, etc. Trump should've just said 'since it's a pandemic, we're not holding the election till it's done.' We all knew what they were doing when Democrat governors made mail-in ballots a top priority once the lockdowns began.

(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  They used the plandemic to issue unconstitutional elections rules and guidelines that went around Republican state legislatures approval so as to fortify the election after midnight on Nov 4. They used that ‘unusual’ pause to calculate what they needed to overcome the deficit in the count

No kidding

You guys making up your own fairytale about the evil democrats trying to steal the election?

Act 77 in PA was passed in 2019 well before the pandemic and was fully supported by the republican legislature.

But I guess you guys don't let facts get in the way of the Big Lie narrative.

"In the Senate, where Act 77 passed 35-14, Republicans voted 27-0 in favor along with eight Democrats; all 14 dissenting votes came from Democrats. In the House, Republicans voted 105-2 in favor while Democrats were more divided — 59 against, 33 in favor. "
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The PA supreme court was a part and party to the sham in PA. Only the legislature can make federal election laws, not the supreme court. So, yea, I fully expect the court which unconstitutionally allowed illegal voting activity to tell us it was all ok.
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(01-28-2022 10:47 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  All rules were thrown out b/c it was a pandemic, ie the state could forbid you from going to church, etc. Trump should've just said 'since it's a pandemic, we're not holding the election till it's done.' We all knew what they were doing when Democrat governors made mail-in ballots a top priority once the lockdowns began.

(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  They used the plandemic to issue unconstitutional elections rules and guidelines that went around Republican state legislatures approval so as to fortify the election after midnight on Nov 4. They used that ‘unusual’ pause to calculate what they needed to overcome the deficit in the count

No kidding

You guys making up your own fairytale about the evil democrats trying to steal the election?

Act 77 in PA was passed in 2019 well before the pandemic and was fully supported by the republican legislature.

But I guess you guys don't let facts get in the way of the Big Lie narrative.

"In the Senate, where Act 77 passed 35-14, Republicans voted 27-0 in favor along with eight Democrats; all 14 dissenting votes came from Democrats. In the House, Republicans voted 105-2 in favor while Democrats were more divided — 59 against, 33 in favor. "

Say what you want but I have NEVER seen a deficit that insurmountable erased in my lifetime and won't ever again. Rife with fraud no matter how you try to defend it. Biden got all those votes and the guy couldn't attract flies with an Earthmover full of manure.
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(01-28-2022 10:47 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  All rules were thrown out b/c it was a pandemic, ie the state could forbid you from going to church, etc. Trump should've just said 'since it's a pandemic, we're not holding the election till it's done.' We all knew what they were doing when Democrat governors made mail-in ballots a top priority once the lockdowns began.

(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  They used the plandemic to issue unconstitutional elections rules and guidelines that went around Republican state legislatures approval so as to fortify the election after midnight on Nov 4. They used that ‘unusual’ pause to calculate what they needed to overcome the deficit in the count

No kidding

You guys making up your own fairytale about the evil democrats trying to steal the election?

Act 77 in PA was passed in 2019 well before the pandemic and was fully supported by the republican legislature.

But I guess you guys don't let facts get in the way of the Big Lie narrative.

"In the Senate, where Act 77 passed 35-14, Republicans voted 27-0 in favor along with eight Democrats; all 14 dissenting votes came from Democrats. In the House, Republicans voted 105-2 in favor while Democrats were more divided — 59 against, 33 in favor. "
Sounds to me like if you make a deal w/ the Democrats you get screwed over. It was the Democrats pushing for the mail-in voting in the Act, the Republicans (foolishly) said fine. Glad GA & TX wise for the wear.
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(01-28-2022 10:57 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:47 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  All rules were thrown out b/c it was a pandemic, ie the state could forbid you from going to church, etc. Trump should've just said 'since it's a pandemic, we're not holding the election till it's done.' We all knew what they were doing when Democrat governors made mail-in ballots a top priority once the lockdowns began.

(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  They used the plandemic to issue unconstitutional elections rules and guidelines that went around Republican state legislatures approval so as to fortify the election after midnight on Nov 4. They used that ‘unusual’ pause to calculate what they needed to overcome the deficit in the count

No kidding

You guys making up your own fairytale about the evil democrats trying to steal the election?

Act 77 in PA was passed in 2019 well before the pandemic and was fully supported by the republican legislature.

But I guess you guys don't let facts get in the way of the Big Lie narrative.

"In the Senate, where Act 77 passed 35-14, Republicans voted 27-0 in favor along with eight Democrats; all 14 dissenting votes came from Democrats. In the House, Republicans voted 105-2 in favor while Democrats were more divided — 59 against, 33 in favor. "

Say what you want but I have NEVER seen a deficit that insurmountable erased in my lifetime and won't ever again. Rife with fraud no matter how you try to defend it. Biden got all those votes and the guy couldn't attract flies with an Earthmover full of manure.

I must have confused you when I posted facts, they aren't seen very often here.

We were talking about Act 77 and the expansion of mail in voting in PA.
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(01-28-2022 11:08 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:57 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:47 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  All rules were thrown out b/c it was a pandemic, ie the state could forbid you from going to church, etc. Trump should've just said 'since it's a pandemic, we're not holding the election till it's done.' We all knew what they were doing when Democrat governors made mail-in ballots a top priority once the lockdowns began.

(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  They used the plandemic to issue unconstitutional elections rules and guidelines that went around Republican state legislatures approval so as to fortify the election after midnight on Nov 4. They used that ‘unusual’ pause to calculate what they needed to overcome the deficit in the count

No kidding

You guys making up your own fairytale about the evil democrats trying to steal the election?

Act 77 in PA was passed in 2019 well before the pandemic and was fully supported by the republican legislature.

But I guess you guys don't let facts get in the way of the Big Lie narrative.

"In the Senate, where Act 77 passed 35-14, Republicans voted 27-0 in favor along with eight Democrats; all 14 dissenting votes came from Democrats. In the House, Republicans voted 105-2 in favor while Democrats were more divided — 59 against, 33 in favor. "

Say what you want but I have NEVER seen a deficit that insurmountable erased in my lifetime and won't ever again. Rife with fraud no matter how you try to defend it. Biden got all those votes and the guy couldn't attract flies with an Earthmover full of manure.

I must have confused you when I posted facts, they aren't seen very often here.

We were talking about Act 77 and the expansion of mail in voting in PA.

lmfao … you actually believe this wasn’t a security blanket put in place by the cabal super PACS….

KEEP ON KEEPIN’ ON
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(01-28-2022 11:08 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:57 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:47 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  All rules were thrown out b/c it was a pandemic, ie the state could forbid you from going to church, etc. Trump should've just said 'since it's a pandemic, we're not holding the election till it's done.' We all knew what they were doing when Democrat governors made mail-in ballots a top priority once the lockdowns began.

(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  They used the plandemic to issue unconstitutional elections rules and guidelines that went around Republican state legislatures approval so as to fortify the election after midnight on Nov 4. They used that ‘unusual’ pause to calculate what they needed to overcome the deficit in the count

No kidding

You guys making up your own fairytale about the evil democrats trying to steal the election?

Act 77 in PA was passed in 2019 well before the pandemic and was fully supported by the republican legislature.

But I guess you guys don't let facts get in the way of the Big Lie narrative.

"In the Senate, where Act 77 passed 35-14, Republicans voted 27-0 in favor along with eight Democrats; all 14 dissenting votes came from Democrats. In the House, Republicans voted 105-2 in favor while Democrats were more divided — 59 against, 33 in favor. "

Say what you want but I have NEVER seen a deficit that insurmountable erased in my lifetime and won't ever again. Rife with fraud no matter how you try to defend it. Biden got all those votes and the guy couldn't attract flies with an Earthmover full of manure.

I must have confused you when I posted facts, they aren't seen very often here.

We were talking about Act 77 and the expansion of mail in voting in PA.

Except you missed the biggest “fact”. It was illegally passed. The changes involved items actually enumerated in the state constitution. The only way to change such items is via a constitutional amendment—-which the legislature did not do. Facts are stubborn things. What does that mean? As you pointed out, since it was passed in 2019, it means all those mail in ballots are just as illegal today as they were in 2020.
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Here's a fun fact. I live in PA.

I live in a town where for the longest time I couldn't find a blue drop box for the longest time. Months before the 2020 election they sprang up all over the place. It was great. A week after the election they were gone.
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(01-28-2022 10:47 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  All rules were thrown out b/c it was a pandemic, ie the state could forbid you from going to church, etc. Trump should've just said 'since it's a pandemic, we're not holding the election till it's done.' We all knew what they were doing when Democrat governors made mail-in ballots a top priority once the lockdowns began.

(01-28-2022 10:26 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  They used the plandemic to issue unconstitutional elections rules and guidelines that went around Republican state legislatures approval so as to fortify the election after midnight on Nov 4. They used that ‘unusual’ pause to calculate what they needed to overcome the deficit in the count

No kidding

You guys making up your own fairytale about the evil democrats trying to steal the election?

Act 77 in PA was passed in 2019 well before the pandemic and was fully supported by the republican legislature.

But I guess you guys don't let facts get in the way of the Big Lie narrative.

"In the Senate, where Act 77 passed 35-14, Republicans voted 27-0 in favor along with eight Democrats; all 14 dissenting votes came from Democrats. In the House, Republicans voted 105-2 in favor while Democrats were more divided — 59 against, 33 in favor. "

Never said it was just democrats. You should have paid attention to the Arizona thread. The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors who refused to cooperate was GOP controlled 4-1.

Likewise, in PA their General Assembly (or whatever they called it) did pass that law. Which was found to be unconstitutional.

Regardless, several Republicans have been trying to address election fraud/irregularities in PA but have been hampered by -- yep, you might have guessed it -- other Republicans.

You think you're scoring points saying Republicans did it, but you're not. It only demonstrates what we already know -- the swamp is deep.

Thankfully PA state senator Doug Mastriano is running for the gubernatorial nomination in the Republican Primary.

BTW, here's Mastriano's bio:

Senator Douglas V. Mastriano, PhD
(Colonel, U.S. Army, Retired)

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Doug Mastriano is a combat veteran and the son of a career US Navy man. He is an Eagle Scout and worked as a paperboy, janitor, security guard, short-order cook, pizza delivery person and dishwasher. Doug was commissioned in the U.S. Army in 1986 and served on the Iron Curtain with the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment in West Germany. While serving along the East German and Czechoslovakian borders, he witnessed the end of the Cold War and thereafter deployed to Iraq for Operation Desert Storm (1991) to liberate Kuwait. His regiment led the attack against Saddam's elite Republican Guard forces. Doug went on to serve in Washington, DC, the 3rd Infantry Division and US Army Europe. After 9/11, Mastriano was the lead planner for the operation to invade Iraq via Turkey. He served four years with NATO and deployed three times to Afghanistan. Mastriano was the director of NATO's Joint Intelligence Center in Afghanistan, leading 80 people from 18 nations. On his own initiative, Doug led seven relief operations to help Afghan orphans. He completed his career as a Professor of the U.S. Army War College (PAWC), Carlisle, PA, and taught Strategic Studies at the Master Degree level to the next generation of senior leaders.

Mastriano is a Doctor of History (PhD) and has four master’s degrees: Strategy, Strategic Intelligence, Military Operations, and Airpower. He earned a BA from Eastern University in St. Davids, Pennsylvania and was the alumnus of the year in 2009. He led the search to locate where America's greatest WW I hero, Alvin York, received the Medal of Honor and led the construction of a three mile trail, with two monuments and nine markers in the Argonne Forest of France. He published 30 articles on strategy and historic topics and authored the book Alvin York: A New Biography of the Hero of the Argonne which received four awards. His new book, Thunder in the Argonne is the first to tell the complete story of America’s largest battle, the 1918 Meuse-Argonne Campaign. Doug's next book, Pershing's Lieutenants, was just released and is an edited work that focuses on the leadership style of American officers in the First World War.

Mastriano has appeared on Tucker Carlson, C-Span, numerous national radio programs (John Batchelor Show, Eric Metaxas Show) and on Fox Business with Stuart Varney. He retired from the U.S. Army in November 2017 after 30 years of active duty as a Colonel. In 2018, he was a candidate for Pennsylvania's 13th U.S. Congressional District, where he overwhelmingly won Franklin and Fulton Counties and placed 3rd (of 8 candidates) in Adams and Cumberland Counties.

Doug is married to Rebecca (Stewart), whose ancestors settled this region of Pennsylvania in 1732. Rebecca was a chaplain with Marketplace Ministries at Martin's Famous Pastry Shoppe. Their son Josiah is a graduate of Liberty University, and an Eagle Scout, Canadian Chief Scout and recipient of the Duke of Edinburgh's Gold, Silver and Bronze Awards.

Mastriano is an active member of his church and resides near Caledonia State Park, Pennsylvania.

Mastriano was elected to serve as the Senator for Pennsylvania's 33rd District in May 2019, which includes all of Adams County, most of Franklin County and parts of Cumberland and York Counties. Mastriano has thirty years of experience building teams to get the job done. He has dedicated his life to fighting for freedom, defending our families and serving the people of this great land.

Academic Background
  • 1986 Bachelor of Arts, History, Eastern University, St. Davids, Pennsylvania
  • 1992 Masters Strategic Intelligence, Joint Intelligence College, Washington, DC
  • 2001 Masters Airpower Theory, Air University, Maxwell AFB, AL
  • 2002 Masters Military Operational Art and Science, Air University, Maxwell AFB, AL
  • 2010 Masters Strategic Studies, US Army War College, Carlisle, Pennsylvania
  • 2013 Ph.D. University of New Brunswick, Canada (Doctor of History)

Key Military Assignments
  • 1986 Commissioned as an officer in the United States Army
  • 1988-1990 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment (2ACR) on the Iron Curtain
  • 1990-1991 2ACR for Operations Desert Shield/Storm in Iraq
  • 1992-1995 Assignments in Washington, DC
  • 1995-1998 229th Military Intelligence Battalion
  • 1998-2000 3rd Infantry Division (Rock of the Marne)
  • 2002-2005 US Army Europe
  • 2005-2009 NATO (Deployments to Afghanistan 2006, 2007, 2008)
  • 2009-2010 U.S. Army War College, Carlisle, Pennsylvania.
  • 2012-2017 Professor Army War College (PAWC), Carlisle, Pennsylvania
    Retired as Colonel in the United States Army

Published Books:
  • Pershing's Lieutenants, (London, UK, Osprey; 2020). Coeditor with David Zabecki
    Douglas Mastriano
  • Thunder in the Argonne: A New History of America’s Greatest Battle,
    (Lexington, KY: University Press of Kentucky, 2018).
    Douglas Mastriano,
  • Alvin York, (Lexington, KY: University Press of Kentucky, 2014).
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