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The Steelers after Big Ben
If, as suspected, Big Ben retires, how will the QB situation shake out? Will they be the Packers (great to great) or Dolphins, (great to 20 years in wilderness)
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01-26-2022 09:41 AM |
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
I could see them going after a QB in the offseason, depending on who all becomes available. Russel Wilson would be a logical target, I'm not sure how the ownership and/or fans would feel if they went after a 'controversial' QB like Rodgers or Watson.
I think it's more likely they trade up in the draft and take a QB in the first round this year though. Don't think there's any ways they go with Mason Rudolph next year.
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01-26-2022 01:18 PM |
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
Tough competition for QB's this year:
Carolina
Denver
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Does NYG stick with Jones?
Will Brady and/or Rogers return.
Does New Orleans go with a different direction
What does Houston do?
Where does Wilson end up at?
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
Big Ben officially done
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01-27-2022 01:54 PM |
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
I think the Stillas will go after Trubiski or Winston and focus on the rest of the holes via FA and the draft, then look at 23 or 24 for the next franchise QB.
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01-28-2022 07:22 AM |
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
Panther: So, the Patriot’s approach?
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
(01-26-2022 04:56 PM)dbackjon Wrote: Tough competition for QB's this year:
Carolina
Denver
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Does NYG stick with Jones?
Will Brady and/or Rogers return.
Does New Orleans go with a different direction
What does Houston do?
Where does Wilson end up at?
The Deshaun Watson thing is looming huge over a lot of decisions... and with his image hurt.... who will bite?
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01-30-2022 12:07 AM |
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
(01-28-2022 07:22 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: I think the Stillas will go after Trubiski or Winston and focus on the rest of the holes via FA and the draft, then look at 23 or 24 for the next franchise QB.
Why not Jimmy G?
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01-31-2022 09:13 PM |
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
(01-31-2022 09:13 PM)vandiver49 Wrote: (01-28-2022 07:22 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: I think the Stillas will go after Trubiski or Winston and focus on the rest of the holes via FA and the draft, then look at 23 or 24 for the next franchise QB.
Why not Jimmy G?
If there are enough interested teams, the 49ers will be able to get a 1st round pick for Jimmy G to partly make up for the two they traded away to move up to pick Trey Lance.
Steelers might well be interested in trading for Garoppolo. Broncos should be interested. Texans and Saints are also possibilities.
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
The Stillas would be moronic to trade anything more than a 5th rounder for Jimmy G. Frankly, I don't see him being much better than what we already have.
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02-03-2022 08:49 AM |
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
(02-03-2022 08:49 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: The Stillas would be moronic to trade anything more than a 5th rounder for Jimmy G. Frankly, I don't see him being much better than what we already have.
Jimmy G is easily better than Haskins and Rudolph. The fact Dobbs hasn't seen the field is telling in itself. I just can't see Pittsburgh willfully rolling out QB's in 2022 that would guarantee a losing season.
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
I would look at a player like Marcus Mariota to be my starter next season. Mariota will be a free agent and is 28 years old. The Steelers would be a good fit for him. The Steelers could draft a quarterback in the first or second round and take their time developing him.
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02-03-2022 09:37 AM |
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
(02-01-2022 04:13 PM)Wedge Wrote: (01-31-2022 09:13 PM)vandiver49 Wrote: (01-28-2022 07:22 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: I think the Stillas will go after Trubiski or Winston and focus on the rest of the holes via FA and the draft, then look at 23 or 24 for the next franchise QB.
Why not Jimmy G?
If there are enough interested teams, the 49ers will be able to get a 1st round pick for Jimmy G to partly make up for the two they traded away to move up to pick Trey Lance.
Steelers might well be interested in trading for Garoppolo. Broncos should be interested. Texans and Saints are also possibilities.
Jimmy G only has 1 year left on his contract, and it comes with a cap hit of almost $27 million. That would make it harder to demand a 1st round pick out of a trade.
He's definitely better than what the Steelers have right now though (and other teams who could potentially trade for him).
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02-03-2022 10:33 AM |
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
(02-03-2022 09:26 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: (02-03-2022 08:49 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: The Stillas would be moronic to trade anything more than a 5th rounder for Jimmy G. Frankly, I don't see him being much better than what we already have.
Jimmy G is easily better than Haskins and Rudolph. The fact Dobbs hasn't seen the field is telling in itself. I just can't see Pittsburgh willfully rolling out QB's in 2022 that would guarantee a losing season.
For $25m and loss of draft capital, Jimmy is worse than Mason and Haskins. If Jimmy was a FA and coming with a 5-10 min cap hit, I'd entertain the idea. Jimmy G wouldn't guarantee a winning season with this roster.
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02-03-2022 01:59 PM |
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
(02-03-2022 01:59 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: (02-03-2022 09:26 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: (02-03-2022 08:49 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: The Stillas would be moronic to trade anything more than a 5th rounder for Jimmy G. Frankly, I don't see him being much better than what we already have.
Jimmy G is easily better than Haskins and Rudolph. The fact Dobbs hasn't seen the field is telling in itself. I just can't see Pittsburgh willfully rolling out QB's in 2022 that would guarantee a losing season.
For $25m and loss of draft capital, Jimmy is worse than Mason and Haskins. If Jimmy was a FA and coming with a 5-10 min cap hit, I'd entertain the idea. Jimmy G wouldn't guarantee a winning season with this roster.
Thanks to the single season and huge cap hit, it's actually possible for Jimmy G to get cut. The 49ers wouldn't take a giant cap hit for doing that, and it's not crazy to think other teams don't want to invest that much salary into him.
At that point he'd be an extremely desirable commodity and could come in with a $10-15 million cap hit instead. That would be worth it for the Steelers to look into, especially if it's the lower end.
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
(02-03-2022 10:33 AM)e-parade Wrote: (02-01-2022 04:13 PM)Wedge Wrote: (01-31-2022 09:13 PM)vandiver49 Wrote: (01-28-2022 07:22 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: I think the Stillas will go after Trubiski or Winston and focus on the rest of the holes via FA and the draft, then look at 23 or 24 for the next franchise QB.
Why not Jimmy G?
If there are enough interested teams, the 49ers will be able to get a 1st round pick for Jimmy G to partly make up for the two they traded away to move up to pick Trey Lance.
Steelers might well be interested in trading for Garoppolo. Broncos should be interested. Texans and Saints are also possibilities.
Jimmy G only has 1 year left on his contract, and it comes with a cap hit of almost $27 million. That would make it harder to demand a 1st round pick out of a trade.
He's definitely better than what the Steelers have right now though (and other teams who could potentially trade for him).
His 2022 cap hit makes it more difficult for the Steelers. But, it depends on the trade market. Denver and maybe a couple others have cap space and plenty of draft assets, but they might opt for other QB solutions.
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
The Stillas actually has a lot of cap space. The problem is the plethora of holes in the roster to field a competive team. At best we will see 2 new starters on the OLine and at worst 4 new starters. Then there's WR with the prospects of James Washington leaving and Juju likely leaving. We probably also need a RB to compliment Najee. Then on Defense, Alualu returning definitely helps the DL, but we definitely need another DL or two to help solidify the DL for not just next year, but years to come. Cam is a season or two from retiring. We probably need a #3 Edge guy to fill in plus a ILB or two. Finally in the secondary there's a strong likelihood the Stillas don't bring back Edmunds and Haden , thus creating two more holes that needs filled. Now tell me how trading a #1 for Jimmy G makes this team better. I just don't see it. We need as much draft capital as possible to fill our needs. I'm not against grapping the BPA at #20 regardless of the position. I have my favorites of course. It's going to take a couple of seasons of FA and the draft to fill these holes and potential holes to come.
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
That's another way to look at it, for any team.
Trading for Garoppolo, even though he's far from perfect, is a "win now" move, or for some teams a "we're tired of not making the playoffs" move. Denver and Washington are in the latter category. A team without that kind of motivation isn't going to spend much draft or player value to trade for a QB.
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
And for the teams who can afford to not trade for a "win now" mentality they can just wait to see if no one trades for him and he gets released. The Steelers are a franchise that doesn't seem to make any rash decisions and are okay with not making the post season for a little bit while they restock. Having the extremely loyal fanbase that they do definitely helps out there as well. Those fans are going to go no matter what.
I suppose there's also an option of trading for him with a "we'll take on half his salary" or something (saw that in an ESPN post, specifically about the Steelers hypothetically offering a 2nd rounder and half the salary to get him).
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RE: The Steelers after Big Ben
There will be teams offering to trade for Garoppolo even if they have to take on his contract. Look at how many teams have only lousy QB options on their roster. Jimmy G would be an upgrade for half the NFL.
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