(01-29-2022 10:53 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 11:04 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 09:46 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 08:17 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  Did you put this together or take it from an article? You are the man if you did all this research.

He followed Florida Twitter, when he says “new”... all those coaches were promoted, they have been here, they aren’t new. We have one 1 new coach, TE/AHC Jorge Munoz who coached head coach Michael Desormeaux when he played here and was at UL for a decade and was joe burrows QB coach. Every single other coach on staff coached under Billy Napier at UL.

What you've said here is mostly false, based on information that can be found on your own school's website.

If your coordinators or position coaches were not in those roles last season, then they are "new" coordinators or position coaches. They don't just inherit the previous guys experience by osmosis.

The DC job went to guy who has never been a defensive coordinator at any level, and has only ever been a DBs coach, albeit a very, very good one. So I think I'm qualified in saying the Cajuns have a new defensive coordinator. He was on the Cajun's staff as a DBs coach, but most recently at Vanderbilt. You could call that a promotion I guess, but its a stretch considering he wasn't on Napier's staff in 2021.

The Cajun's Special Teams Coordinator was hired by Napier at Florida eight days ago. Safe to say you have a new one there too.

Louisiana's head OL coach was at FAU the past two seasons and hasn't worked with Napier since he was at North Alabama. This is a good hire, but not an internal promotion like you've suggested.

Neither was Wes Neighbors (Associate Head Coach/OLB), who most recently spent time at South Florida, Florida Atlantic, and Alabama.

Matt Bergeron (RBs coach), was an analyst the past two seasons, and only recently served as interim running backs coach in the New Orleans Bowl. I'll give you credit and say he is not new to the Cajuns, but you knew what I meant when I said new.

Regarding the OC job, I'm aware he was the Co-OC last season with Desormeaux, so I'll give you that and say there's enough continuity there where there shouldn't be a learning curve. It's worth noting Napier was the primary play caller, but between Desormeaux and Leger, considering their backgrounds, it should work out fine.

Being nit picky here, but Munoz was not Joe Burrow's QB coach, though he did have a hand in his development. Steve Ensminger was LSU's QBs coach and offensive coordinator. Munoz was an offensive analyst. It's a very good hire regardless.

They are not new, they are not new people. They know the players, they worked hand in hand with the guys that left. Billy raided the support staff, not really the coaching staff. It was the off the field people. You are completely wrong on the OL coach Norrid was here last year, Neighbors you are wrong also bc he was the safeties coach last year and the DC in the bowl game. Bryant Ross the other OL coach was here with Rob Sale and DJ Looney. Lamar almost got the DC job when Robert’s left but it went to Toney so we lost Lamar. Desormeaux will be a better play caller than Napier, that was not Napier’s strength at all IMO. I don’t care what Ensmingers title was, Burrow literally singled out and thanked Munoz in his heisman speech for his development. Our strength coach Connor neighbors was also here under Hocke and previously worked under Tommy moffit and Scott Cochran. He learned under 3 of the best in the business. I know people here are praying that we are about to fall apart, we aren’t.

Very well said. Thanks and +2 for you.

(01-29-2022 10:32 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(01-27-2022 03:20 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 11:27 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I think Louisiana's run of dominance in the SBC west could come to an end in 2022. I believe A-State, South, and Troy (if we play in the west) will really push you guys this coming year and since you guys are weakened it could finally be the year somebody topples your kingdom. Not saying it will happen but I think the possibility is real.

October 19th 2017 is last time we lost a western division game. Not saying we won’t drop games but I don’t think this train is coming off the tracks or being toppled. 15 of our starters this year were recruited by mark hudspeth, Napier’s recruits haven’t started yet. CMD said in his press conference, this roster was built the right way and we don’t need to Raid the portal. Also you have to get back to 85 scholarships this year. A 13-1 championship team that had tremendous depth, that needs to cut to 85 won’t be bringing in a ton of transfers. We most likely lose the same guys if Napier stays and nobody would be saying anything about is being toppled.

The " roster was built the right way and we don’t need to Raid the portal" would worry me as a Cajun fan, as the world just changed. It's already hurt you, but your coach could be choosing to use it to your advantage but is insisting on going "old school" and that could be disastrous.

Everyone has to get back to 85 scholarships first off. Like I’ve said previously, 15 starters were recruited under mark hudspeth. We ended with the number 1 recruiting class for 4 straight years under Napier, those guys are here. Why would we need to raid the portal? We aren’t trying to fix anything. Our coaches didn’t get fired, we aren’t trying to repair a locker room or fix a team with no talent.

(01-29-2022 09:59 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 11:05 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  I enjoy doing this kind of research every once and while. It's just information, while some people might take it as an afront to their program, I actually do want all SBC programs to succeed. I don't always get everything right, but it's fun to do when you have a Friday to waste on nothing important.

Well, I don’t really take it as an insult to our program. And I do think it’s kind of odd that while I disagree with much of what you have said, we do end up at roughly the same conclusion. Although, with my vermilion-colored glasses firmly on, I think it will not be too much of a stretch to see us get to 10 wins in 2022.

But again, my main disagreements with your opinions is that you seem to jump to a few things that can easily be seen in another light:

—-Your assumption that CMD will not be able to sustain the cULture that Napier and he have built over the last 4 years is off-base. I just don’t see why both CBN and more importantly, Dr Maggard, would’ve been willing to trust him with him with the keys to kingdom if that was not the case.

—-I also think your research failed to include just how deep we are, which will really offset the loses we are having.

—-I also think you are being waaaay to nit-picky about how to classify our ‘new’ coaches. Even though they might not have done the new jobs they have, the fact that they were currently on-staff puts them in a different category.

Just my thoughts.

I used to have a pair of cardinal colored glasses, but Chip Lindsey has made me not want to wear them for a while. I see 5 to 7 wins this season for Troy, with year two being closer to the 9 or 10 win mark.

To your point about culture, I think you're overstating what I've said. I'll bet its mostly the same system, I'm just not sure if the x-factor or edge from last year's team will be there. Could be a dream team like Troy's 11-2 season in 2017. None of my points were really about dramatic differences by themselves, I would just be concerned about the compound effect of all of them at once.

The players who transferred out and a few of those who graduated will be hard to replace, but your right, I didn't notice all the seniors on your roster, and maybe it moves a long nicely.

If I were looking at it with Original Louisiana Hot Sauce infused glasses, I'd say continuity with the offensive staff and a deep roster could get you to 10 wins if you get the right bounces. You've convinced me of that. Though I agree with Lucky, you guys should hit the portal for a few play makers. Can't hurt.

Thanks for the conversation and best of luck in 2022.

(01-29-2022 10:53 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 11:04 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 09:46 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 08:17 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  Did you put this together or take it from an article? You are the man if you did all this research.

He followed Florida Twitter, when he says “new”... all those coaches were promoted, they have been here, they aren’t new. We have one 1 new coach, TE/AHC Jorge Munoz who coached head coach Michael Desormeaux when he played here and was at UL for a decade and was joe burrows QB coach. Every single other coach on staff coached under Billy Napier at UL.

What you've said here is mostly false, based on information that can be found on your own school's website.

If your coordinators or position coaches were not in those roles last season, then they are "new" coordinators or position coaches. They don't just inherit the previous guys experience by osmosis.

The DC job went to guy who has never been a defensive coordinator at any level, and has only ever been a DBs coach, albeit a very, very good one. So I think I'm qualified in saying the Cajuns have a new defensive coordinator. He was on the Cajun's staff as a DBs coach, but most recently at Vanderbilt. You could call that a promotion I guess, but its a stretch considering he wasn't on Napier's staff in 2021.

The Cajun's Special Teams Coordinator was hired by Napier at Florida eight days ago. Safe to say you have a new one there too.

Louisiana's head OL coach was at FAU the past two seasons and hasn't worked with Napier since he was at North Alabama. This is a good hire, but not an internal promotion like you've suggested.

Neither was Wes Neighbors (Associate Head Coach/OLB), who most recently spent time at South Florida, Florida Atlantic, and Alabama.

Matt Bergeron (RBs coach), was an analyst the past two seasons, and only recently served as interim running backs coach in the New Orleans Bowl. I'll give you credit and say he is not new to the Cajuns, but you knew what I meant when I said new.

Regarding the OC job, I'm aware he was the Co-OC last season with Desormeaux, so I'll give you that and say there's enough continuity there where there shouldn't be a learning curve. It's worth noting Napier was the primary play caller, but between Desormeaux and Leger, considering their backgrounds, it should work out fine.

Being nit picky here, but Munoz was not Joe Burrow's QB coach, though he did have a hand in his development. Steve Ensminger was LSU's QBs coach and offensive coordinator. Munoz was an offensive analyst. It's a very good hire regardless.

You are completely wrong on the OL coach Norrid was here last year, Neighbors you are wrong also bc he was the safeties coach last year and the DC in the bowl game.

That's on me for saying you were wrong. The Louisiana athletics website has not updated their bios yet, as it had with others, and used the present tense of "has added" as if they were recent hires.

I appreciate the conversation, and the corrections. Take care.

(01-29-2022 10:58 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-29-2022 10:32 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(01-27-2022 03:20 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 11:27 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I think Louisiana's run of dominance in the SBC west could come to an end in 2022. I believe A-State, South, and Troy (if we play in the west) will really push you guys this coming year and since you guys are weakened it could finally be the year somebody topples your kingdom. Not saying it will happen but I think the possibility is real.

October 19th 2017 is last time we lost a western division game. Not saying we won’t drop games but I don’t think this train is coming off the tracks or being toppled. 15 of our starters this year were recruited by mark hudspeth, Napier’s recruits haven’t started yet. CMD said in his press conference, this roster was built the right way and we don’t need to Raid the portal. Also you have to get back to 85 scholarships this year. A 13-1 championship team that had tremendous depth, that needs to cut to 85 won’t be bringing in a ton of transfers. We most likely lose the same guys if Napier stays and nobody would be saying anything about is being toppled.

The " roster was built the right way and we don’t need to Raid the portal" would worry me as a Cajun fan, as the world just changed. It's already hurt you, but your coach could be choosing to use it to your advantage but is insisting on going "old school" and that could be disastrous.

Everyone has to get back to 85 scholarships first off. Like I’ve said previously, 15 starters were recruited under mark hudspeth. We ended with the number 1 recruiting class for 4 straight years under Napier, those guys are here. Why would we need to raid the portal? We aren’t trying to fix anything. Our coaches didn’t get fired, we aren’t trying to repair a locker room or fix a team with no talent.

If it's just this season? Okay. If you plan to ignore the Portal? Well, I guess that's good for the rest of us in the West.

(01-29-2022 05:02 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(01-29-2022 10:58 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-29-2022 10:32 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(01-27-2022 03:20 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 11:27 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I think Louisiana's run of dominance in the SBC west could come to an end in 2022. I believe A-State, South, and Troy (if we play in the west) will really push you guys this coming year and since you guys are weakened it could finally be the year somebody topples your kingdom. Not saying it will happen but I think the possibility is real.

October 19th 2017 is last time we lost a western division game. Not saying we won’t drop games but I don’t think this train is coming off the tracks or being toppled. 15 of our starters this year were recruited by mark hudspeth, Napier’s recruits haven’t started yet. CMD said in his press conference, this roster was built the right way and we don’t need to Raid the portal. Also you have to get back to 85 scholarships this year. A 13-1 championship team that had tremendous depth, that needs to cut to 85 won’t be bringing in a ton of transfers. We most likely lose the same guys if Napier stays and nobody would be saying anything about is being toppled.

The " roster was built the right way and we don’t need to Raid the portal" would worry me as a Cajun fan, as the world just changed. It's already hurt you, but your coach could be choosing to use it to your advantage but is insisting on going "old school" and that could be disastrous.

Everyone has to get back to 85 scholarships first off. Like I’ve said previously, 15 starters were recruited under mark hudspeth. We ended with the number 1 recruiting class for 4 straight years under Napier, those guys are here. Why would we need to raid the portal? We aren’t trying to fix anything. Our coaches didn’t get fired, we aren’t trying to repair a locker room or fix a team with no talent.

If it's just this season? Okay. If you plan to ignore the Portal? Well, I guess that's good for the rest of us in the West.

We brought in an OL from Michigan State through the portal. He made the comment in response to a question at a press conference. This wasn’t Coach Des taking some anti-portal stance. We don’t need to raid the portal, we have depth. Having to cut the roster to 85 we don’t have a bunch of scholarships to give with the free Covid year. Also, once again..if USM and Troy are in the west next year we are the only team that had a winning record. We are the only ones not seeking “to fix” anything. This portal/immediately eligible deal is new for everyone. You have no idea how it’s going to work out, nobody does. You may be bringing in other people problems, you may be creating Locker room issues between portal guys and guys already on your team. There is a lot of moving parts to this. CMD at no point said we would never use the portal.