(01-26-2022 12:30 PM)chuckk3 Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 12:27 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 12:21 PM)chuckk3 Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 12:12 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 12:07 PM)chuckk3 Wrote:  Nope it's LaTech's fault. It's ALWAYS LaTech's fault, because it's our "modus operandi"!

I'll hand it to 'em, though. The SBC thread lasted ALMOST 2 WHOLE HOURS and 14 whopping posts before someone blamed Tech. That's gotta be a world record.

Some of you Tech fans are a weird lot.

"SBC is beneath us."
"SBC sucks"

*spends a ton of time lurking on the SBC boards*

1. You're attributing quotes to ME that I've never, ever, said. Please, do a search on my name. I've been on this board since 2003, i think...almost 20 years. You won't find a single negative thing I've ever posted about the SBC.

2. You said the source was the SBC board, so I wanted to read it. If I'm not welcome there, fine, I'll make sure to not go back. But please make that clear before you reference the SBC board as a source.

You know what Chuck. You're right. I don't recall you saying any of those things and I did reference that.

I lumped you in with some of the other ones. Please accept my apology.

No problem. For the record, I've been a fan of USM forever. It really bothers me a lot when i see fans from our 2 schools go at each other. This is juvenile stuff.

Every team has some bad apples.. And that's what usually causes issues on these boards.

(01-26-2022 12:14 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 11:40 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 11:08 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  You keep saying less travel for the one year affected. The only close school to La Tech that would be leaving for the coming season is USM. That's it. If travel is more costly it will be because the price of gas has gone up.

We'll all have to play more of what would currently be cross-divisional games, right?

Y'all will have to play some other eastern team to replace the trip to ODU, that's probably a wash. But maybe FIU has to travel to El Paso (someone will have to take the place of USM on your schedule). That's worse for them, right?

The (only?) advantage to the giant 14 team conference was that all but 2 games were within the division (and one of the cross-divisional games would be at home each year). In an 11 team league, you could (and probably should) try to emphasize geography, but someone is going to have more travel.

Do you think an 11 team league is better than a 14 team league?

Not necessarily.

In an 11-team conference it would be split in a 6/5 conference where 6 teams are in one division and 5 in the other with the following conference schedule breakdown:

6-Team Division:
--3 Home/2 Away in Division AND
--1 Home/2 Away Cross-Divisional

OR

--2 Home/3 Away in Division AND
--2 Home/1 Away Cross-Divisional


5-Team Division:
--2 Home/2 Away in Division AND
--2 Home/2 Away Cross-Divisional

The 5-team Division plays one more cross-divisional game, but they all have one less inner-division game, so it balances out. The cross-divsional games would likely be favored geographically with one far relative to the traveling school and one closer.

For example, it would be more likely that FIU had away trips to UAB and North Texas while MTSU might have Louisiana Tech and UTEP.

Are you saying that an 11 team league will involve less travel than a 14 team league? For everyone? Because that doesn't really make sense. Tech travels to USM next season. I'd rather we play @USM than @ any team in the east.

How can 11 be better?

(01-26-2022 12:43 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 12:14 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 11:40 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 11:08 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  You keep saying less travel for the one year affected. The only close school to La Tech that would be leaving for the coming season is USM. That's it. If travel is more costly it will be because the price of gas has gone up.

We'll all have to play more of what would currently be cross-divisional games, right?

Y'all will have to play some other eastern team to replace the trip to ODU, that's probably a wash. But maybe FIU has to travel to El Paso (someone will have to take the place of USM on your schedule). That's worse for them, right?

The (only?) advantage to the giant 14 team conference was that all but 2 games were within the division (and one of the cross-divisional games would be at home each year). In an 11 team league, you could (and probably should) try to emphasize geography, but someone is going to have more travel.

Do you think an 11 team league is better than a 14 team league?

Not necessarily.

In an 11-team conference it would be split in a 6/5 conference where 6 teams are in one division and 5 in the other with the following conference schedule breakdown:

6-Team Division:
--3 Home/2 Away in Division AND
--1 Home/2 Away Cross-Divisional

OR

--2 Home/3 Away in Division AND
--2 Home/1 Away Cross-Divisional


5-Team Division:
--2 Home/2 Away in Division AND
--2 Home/2 Away Cross-Divisional

The 5-team Division plays one more cross-divisional game, but they all have one less inner-division game, so it balances out. The cross-divsional games would likely be favored geographically with one far relative to the traveling school and one closer.

For example, it would be more likely that FIU had away trips to UAB and North Texas while MTSU might have Louisiana Tech and UTEP.

Are you saying that an 11 team league will involve less travel than a 14 team league? For everyone? Because that doesn't really make sense. Tech travels to USM next season. I'd rather we play @USM than @ any team in the east.

How can 11 be better?

I'm saying it would be relatively the same. I'm not saying 11 is better for the long-term, but it would've been better for a year to avoid a year of bs that will come from schools that are leaving to go to the Belch. Look, I get that as a La Tech fan, you don't want Southern Miss and others to go out as winners against you in football. Sometimes that happens.

I don't want them to go at all (well, some of them).

If it's worse it's worse.

I don't care if it's not a lot worse. I'm not saying it's the end of the world. I'm saying it doesn't make sense for remaining schools to be rooting for something worse (even a little bit worse).

You want to quantify "avoid a year of bs" for me? Are you saying I should be hoping for a worse outcome (in real terms) in order to avoid??? What, exactly? Chippy message board posts? Grumpy ADs scribbling out the cusa patches with sharpies? What bs should I be worried about?

(01-26-2022 08:08 PM)inutech Wrote:  I don't want them to go at all (well, some of them).

If it's worse it's worse.

I don't care if it's not a lot worse. I'm not saying it's the end of the world. I'm saying it doesn't make sense for remaining schools to be rooting for something worse (even a little bit worse).

You want to quantify "avoid a year of bs" for me? Are you saying I should be hoping for a worse outcome (in real terms) in order to avoid??? What, exactly? Chippy message board posts? Grumpy ADs scribbling out the cusa patches with sharpies? What bs should I be worried about?

This guy knows about as much about quantum physics as he does about sports. (Not inutech). Anyone going to the AAC is golden in his book but for some reason SBC is horrid.

I mean he spewed BS elsewhere and was asked to show where it was said, ran.

IF we're here another year, we're here. Means we get another baseball series with Tech. Maybe another win in FB, honestly its always so up in the air you never know what's going to happen. I mean even last year I was on the edge of my seat because Tech had good drives and it would just fizzle.

The ideal conference most of these schools listed were in FAVOR of at one time (alphabetically):


Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
*
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
James Madison
Liberty
Marshall
MT
ODU
WKU

*Charlotte would have been considered but was already rumored for the AAC.


But-- it was idealistic and could never happen because of conference contracts,etc.

The best they could do was 7 out of ten-- so they took what they could get.

I still haven't found an answer to if anyone from any FBS conference has ever left with less than a years notice? I don't see the Sunbelt 3 being allowed to if it's never happened before. Nor do I think Judy is out of bounds for trying to keep us in for one year. It might be the first thing I've seen her do to proactive for the conference. I wish she had started playing hardball way earlier though.

(02-08-2022 06:10 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  I still haven't found an answer to if anyone from any FBS conference has ever left with less than a years notice? I don't see the Sunbelt 3 being allowed to if it's never happened before. Nor do I think Judy is out of bounds for trying to keep us in for one year. It might be the first thing I've seen her do to proactive for the conference. I wish she had started playing hardball way earlier though.

I thought west Virginia left earlier than their contracted amount.

(02-09-2022 08:45 AM)benny_t Wrote:  

(02-08-2022 06:10 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  I still haven't found an answer to if anyone from any FBS conference has ever left with less than a years notice? I don't see the Sunbelt 3 being allowed to if it's never happened before. Nor do I think Judy is out of bounds for trying to keep us in for one year. It might be the first thing I've seen her do to proactive for the conference. I wish she had started playing hardball way earlier though.

I thought west Virginia left earlier than their contracted amount.

I think you're right. They were invited over Louisville because they were willing to go early and I believe they paid a big amount to do so.

This SB3 may still happen since the SBC is not waiting for teams to leave in order to make room for the new teams. The AAC on the other hand does not have room until 2023.