I was not happy that the Titans lost, but the NFL playoff games this weekend have been outstanding. Having said that.....they would have been even better if the NFL would change their damn OT rules. Both teams should get a possession in OT and especially in the playoffs. Games shouldn't be decided by a coin toss.

college football OT > NFL OT

If you let a team drive 50 yards in 13 seconds, you really don't have a right to complain about losing on a coin flip.

I had a buddy bet all the dogs in a 4 team parlay for 100/3150 … yesterday, I begged him to bet 900 ML on both faves as a hedge play … I’m glad he listened …

No way in hades is that supposed to happen with 13 secs left … but it did!

the young bucks may not remember this tidbit of historical irony … the Bills, down 35-3, score 35 with Frank Reich in the 2nd half to take the lead over Houston Oilers (then win in OT) with Kelly injured on the sideline … is still the largest comeback win in nfl playoff history …

I feel like there's always rule changes due to a loss in the playoffs. This go around it was the Bills. The year the Saints won the SB, they beat the Vikes in OT with a FG, which caused the rule that you must score a TD to win not a FG unless the other team didn't score first.

(01-23-2022 10:44 PM)STexMiner Wrote:  If you let a team drive 50 yards in 13 seconds, you really don't have a right to complain about losing on a coin flip.

Neither team could stop the other at the end. I absolutely believe the Bills would have won the game had they won the coin toss.

(01-24-2022 07:55 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I feel like there's always rule changes due to a loss in the playoffs. This go around it was the Bills. The year the Saints won the SB, they beat the Vikes in OT with a FG, which caused the rule that you must score a TD to win not a FG unless the other team didn't score first.

This scenario has already played out several times in the playoffs, including Super Bowl 51, with no change.

(01-23-2022 10:30 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  I was not happy that the Titans lost, but the NFL playoff games this weekend have been outstanding. Having said that.....they would have been even better if the NFL would change their damn OT rules. Both teams should get a possession in OT and especially in the playoffs. Games shouldn't be decided by a coin toss.

college football OT > NFL OT

Yep agreed. Everyone knew in 2019 with Pats and Chiefs whoever won toss was scoring a TD. Last night the same. Defenses were down and it basically comes down to luck to determine the winner. Either way sick of KC already, Go RAMS and Higbee!!

Some people think luck has little or no place in football, it all comes down to preparedness and execution.

(01-24-2022 09:49 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Some people think luck has little or no place in football, it all comes down to preparedness and execution.

Its not luck to win a coin toss?

(01-24-2022 09:51 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:49 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Some people think luck has little or no place in football, it all comes down to preparedness and execution.

Its not luck to win a coin toss?

Obviously you have to be prepared to execute calling the coin flip call correctly...

(01-24-2022 11:03 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:51 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(01-24-2022 09:49 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Some people think luck has little or no place in football, it all comes down to preparedness and execution.

Its not luck to win a coin toss?

Obviously you have to be prepared to execute calling the coin flip call correctly...

I remember that being a drill for us.. Coach flip it, and if we guessed wrong we ran 10 100 sprints.

We rarely missed coin flip

Of course I'm kidding.

Both teams should be able to touch the ball in OT.

(01-24-2022 05:22 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Both teams should be able to touch the ball in OT.

Or more precisely, both teams should have to expose their tired defenses in OT

This is really easy to fix if you don’t like the OT rules.

There is no OT.

If two teams end with the same score, the FIRST team to reach that score is the winner.

Which means if you’re down 3 with time running out you HAVE to play for the TD.

Or down 7 you gotta go for 2.

You’d also see a lot more 2 point conversion attempts in the third and fourth quarters.

In a tie game you could score a TD + 2 and make it a two score game.

W3hile I agree that I hate the OT rule. I dont understand how you even give the other team any chance at a fg with 13 seconds to play....

defensive holding is 5 yards and with 13 seconds you get 3 plays at most so KC should have been at the 35 (own 35) with one play left unless there's a 3rd defensive penalty.

You rush 3 and have 3 players lined up deep so no one gets pass you if you make a mistake. That leaves 5 on defense to tackle the 5 on offense that is going out on the play. You grab, hold, tackle, anything it takes to put that WR on the ground and keep him there.

What is the qb going to do if all of his receivers are on the ground or a defender holding them and not letting them get off the line? The time it takes to run the play still counts and in all honestly its going to probably throw the qb out of whack and he's going to use enough time that you only have one more play left....

they will have to score a td at that point. But lets say there's 7 seconds left and now KC has the ball at their 30 after the 5 yard holding call. You do it again and now they are at their own 35 and all you have to do is stop them from getting a td and not get another penalty.

I've seen this play out in college the same way and all a defense really has to do is hold, grab, tackle the offense to use those seconds up. No reason in the world to give the other team any chance to make a big play.

But there's no doubt in my mind that two future hall of famers were playing qb in the KC and Bills game

(01-25-2022 12:33 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  W3hile I agree that I hate the OT rule. I dont understand how you even give the other team any chance at a fg with 13 seconds to play....

defensive holding is 5 yards and with 13 seconds you get 3 plays at most so KC should have been at the 35 (own 35) with one play left unless there's a 3rd defensive penalty.

You rush 3 and have 3 players lined up deep so no one gets pass you if you make a mistake. That leaves 5 on defense to tackle the 5 on offense that is going out on the play. You grab, hold, tackle, anything it takes to put that WR on the ground and keep him there.

What is the qb going to do if all of his receivers are on the ground or a defender holding them and not letting them get off the line? The time it takes to run the play still counts and in all honestly its going to probably throw the qb out of whack and he's going to use enough time that you only have one more play left....

they will have to score a td at that point. But lets say there's 7 seconds left and now KC has the ball at their 30 after the 5 yard holding call. You do it again and now they are at their own 35 and all you have to do is stop them from getting a td and not get another penalty.

I've seen this play out in college the same way and all a defense really has to do is hold, grab, tackle the offense to use those seconds up. No reason in the world to give the other team any chance to make a big play.

But there's no doubt in my mind that two future hall of famers were playing qb in the KC and Bills game

That’s not very sporting

I’d hate to win a game like that

The rules just needs a little tinkering:

1. Make OT 12 mins instead of 10 mins.
2. Give both teams a possession.
3. Apply current OT rules when the 2nd team gets their possession.
4. A safety ends the game.

I have no issues with a game ending in a tie with the above changes.

(01-27-2022 04:08 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  The rules just needs a little tinkering:

1. Make OT 12 mins instead of 10 mins.
2. Give both teams a possession.
3. Apply current OT rules when the 2nd team gets their possession.
4. A safety ends the game.

I have no issues with a game ending in a tie with the above changes.

Playoff game can't end in a tie though. Here comes another 12 minutes.

Play 10 min and see what score is, still tied play 8 min. If Still tied go 4 min both teams get ball at 50..Regular season get rid of OT all together..

(01-27-2022 12:06 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 12:33 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  W3hile I agree that I hate the OT rule. I dont understand how you even give the other team any chance at a fg with 13 seconds to play....

defensive holding is 5 yards and with 13 seconds you get 3 plays at most so KC should have been at the 35 (own 35) with one play left unless there's a 3rd defensive penalty.

You rush 3 and have 3 players lined up deep so no one gets pass you if you make a mistake. That leaves 5 on defense to tackle the 5 on offense that is going out on the play. You grab, hold, tackle, anything it takes to put that WR on the ground and keep him there.

What is the qb going to do if all of his receivers are on the ground or a defender holding them and not letting them get off the line? The time it takes to run the play still counts and in all honestly its going to probably throw the qb out of whack and he's going to use enough time that you only have one more play left....

they will have to score a td at that point. But lets say there's 7 seconds left and now KC has the ball at their 30 after the 5 yard holding call. You do it again and now they are at their own 35 and all you have to do is stop them from getting a td and not get another penalty.

I've seen this play out in college the same way and all a defense really has to do is hold, grab, tackle the offense to use those seconds up. No reason in the world to give the other team any chance to make a big play.

But there's no doubt in my mind that two future hall of famers were playing qb in the KC and Bills game

That’s not very sporting

I’d hate to win a game like that

But that might be the catalyst to actually affect change. Bad OTs won't do it. Exploiting penalties would.