(01-23-2022 12:02 AM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 11:49 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 11:36 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 11:16 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 09:45 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  I would add A&T, Stephen F. Austin, and either Kennesaw or Chattanooga.

Yeah, I chose Kennesaw because of market and recruiting.
Again, new subdivision may not demand so much. The FBS non-autonomy subdivision may see a reduction from the scholarship requirements, seating capacity, attendance, etc, etc, so in that scenario I give the nod to Kennesaw. Georgia is a Top 4 state in production of major college football talent. Getting CUSA back into that state would be pretty valuable with the top 3 hottest football states by most sources in our conference being Florida, Texas, and Georgia in that order.

...Missouri State might be an option... not sure if they are ready yet, but I think they are wanting to move up sometime... EKU is another one that would be a nice 'bridge' between Liberty and the WKU/MTSU area. But the footprint would be much cleaner for what is shown, for sure...

I didn't include Missouri State because I believe the Missouri Valley Football Conference (of which they are a member) would join the current FBS Gang of 5 in the non-Autonomy Division 1 subdivision should the Pay-for-Play Autonomy 5 schools form their own subdivision or semi-pro sports league sometime in the next 10 years. Could possibly come much sooner.

...yeah, I remember there was something which made them a 'not so obvious' choice... hopefully they will be able to put themselves in a good spot... I've always wondered why there was only one 'P5' level program in a state the size (and apparent population base) of Missouri... and why UMKC and/or St. Louis haven't explored starting a football program. Wait, don't tell me, it's a money thing, as usual, right?

Matt Brown tweeted Missouri St withdrew themselves from consideration.

Missouri St likes their conference situation currently (their president headed the MVC expansion committee that picked Murray/Belmont) but they’re keeping an eye for the right fit and timing to move to FBS.

(01-23-2022 12:22 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 12:02 AM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 11:49 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 11:36 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 11:16 PM)All4One Wrote:  Yeah, I chose Kennesaw because of market and recruiting.
Again, new subdivision may not demand so much. The FBS non-autonomy subdivision may see a reduction from the scholarship requirements, seating capacity, attendance, etc, etc, so in that scenario I give the nod to Kennesaw. Georgia is a Top 4 state in production of major college football talent. Getting CUSA back into that state would be pretty valuable with the top 3 hottest football states by most sources in our conference being Florida, Texas, and Georgia in that order.

...Missouri State might be an option... not sure if they are ready yet, but I think they are wanting to move up sometime... EKU is another one that would be a nice 'bridge' between Liberty and the WKU/MTSU area. But the footprint would be much cleaner for what is shown, for sure...

I didn't include Missouri State because I believe the Missouri Valley Football Conference (of which they are a member) would join the current FBS Gang of 5 in the non-Autonomy Division 1 subdivision should the Pay-for-Play Autonomy 5 schools form their own subdivision or semi-pro sports league sometime in the next 10 years. Could possibly come much sooner.

...yeah, I remember there was something which made them a 'not so obvious' choice... hopefully they will be able to put themselves in a good spot... I've always wondered why there was only one 'P5' level program in a state the size (and apparent population base) of Missouri... and why UMKC and/or St. Louis haven't explored starting a football program. Wait, don't tell me, it's a money thing, as usual, right?

Matt Brown tweeted Missouri St withdrew themselves from consideration.

Missouri St likes their conference situation currently (their president headed the MVC expansion committee that picked Murray/Belmont) but they’re keeping an eye for the right fit and timing to move to FBS.

Like when the Power 5 become their own Pay-for-Play subdivision and everyone else is in another subdivision? That's on its way.

You should leave open the chance that not all 66 teams of the currently viewed P5 label will take part of a out right pay for play system. It's been suggested as much so there could be a lot of movement in all conferences.

How will they walk away from the money they are currently getting?

(01-22-2022 07:43 PM)All4One Wrote:  In the spirit of Shizzle, I decided to create my own Conference USA after the Gang of 5 conferences become part of a new subdivision--one which would be designed for those schools that are not-for-profit taxable businesses, which the Power 5 Autonomy schools will become, but are still wishing to compete at the highest collegiate non-pro level that will still adhere to Title IX and other federal regulations for tax exempt colleges and universities.

My premise is that the new subdivision will seek tighter geography because it will be slightly more challenging to make money due to Power 5 Autonomy scheduling that will eventually limit current Gang of 5's and completely eliminate current FCS's.


My changes to CUSA:

1. New Mexico State and UTEP will take their old Border Conference rivalry to the Mountain West especially after raising their profile in the 2023 CUSA.

2. The remaining 7 adds 7 closing gaps in new markets and bringing in a quartet of heralded HBCUs to drive fan interest and make a political statement in the current environment of sports and everything else.

3. The CUSA headquarters moves from Dallas to Pensacola with it's nice tourist destinations, beaches, and proximity to places like Destin, Panama City, Gulf Shores, and Mobile that would give the league doors to neutral sites for selected conference tournaments.

4. I'm making the assumption that no schools from the AAC, MAC, Sun Belt, or Mountain West would alter their situation or return to CUSA.

This is strictly my opinion. But I do not believe any current FBS Gang of 5 schools will go back to the current FCS. It will be for those that cannot afford the kind of money the Alabamas and Ohio States will be able to pay student athletes to play for them. It will be for schools that cannot afford expanding scholarship numbers across all sports in the way the Power 5 schools will want to.

For many of the schools that I picked, we are throwing current budget restraints out the window since we don't know what the new subdivision will eventually expect. One thing is clear. None of these schools I picked will ever operate financially at the level of most of the current Power 5 that are all north of $80-$100 Million annually.

This is my new Conference USA.

Don't like it. I would love it if my school made itinto the MWC but since that's not happening, I hate it. Way too many eastern schools. Great for them but terrible for NMSU and UTEP. I would much rather assume that this will be my schools long term home and have evenly split divisions to avoid being left in the lurch down the road when an east heavy conference splits.

(01-23-2022 01:16 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 07:43 PM)All4One Wrote:  In the spirit of Shizzle, I decided to create my own Conference USA after the Gang of 5 conferences become part of a new subdivision--one which would be designed for those schools that are not-for-profit taxable businesses, which the Power 5 Autonomy schools will become, but are still wishing to compete at the highest collegiate non-pro level that will still adhere to Title IX and other federal regulations for tax exempt colleges and universities.

My premise is that the new subdivision will seek tighter geography because it will be slightly more challenging to make money due to Power 5 Autonomy scheduling that will eventually limit current Gang of 5's and completely eliminate current FCS's.


My changes to CUSA:

1. New Mexico State and UTEP will take their old Border Conference rivalry to the Mountain West especially after raising their profile in the 2023 CUSA.

2. The remaining 7 adds 7 closing gaps in new markets and bringing in a quartet of heralded HBCUs to drive fan interest and make a political statement in the current environment of sports and everything else.

3. The CUSA headquarters moves from Dallas to Pensacola with it's nice tourist destinations, beaches, and proximity to places like Destin, Panama City, Gulf Shores, and Mobile that would give the league doors to neutral sites for selected conference tournaments.

4. I'm making the assumption that no schools from the AAC, MAC, Sun Belt, or Mountain West would alter their situation or return to CUSA.

This is strictly my opinion. But I do not believe any current FBS Gang of 5 schools will go back to the current FCS. It will be for those that cannot afford the kind of money the Alabamas and Ohio States will be able to pay student athletes to play for them. It will be for schools that cannot afford expanding scholarship numbers across all sports in the way the Power 5 schools will want to.

For many of the schools that I picked, we are throwing current budget restraints out the window since we don't know what the new subdivision will eventually expect. One thing is clear. None of these schools I picked will ever operate financially at the level of most of the current Power 5 that are all north of $80-$100 Million annually.

This is my new Conference USA.

Don't like it. I would love it if my school made itinto the MWC but since that's not happening, I hate it. Way too many eastern schools. Great for them but terrible for NMSU and UTEP. I would much rather assume that this will be my schools long term home and have evenly split divisions to avoid being left in the lurch down the road when an east heavy conference splits.

Never say never. The MWC would've never even considered schools like San Jose State, Hawaii, or even Utah State had the former Pac-10 not expanded, or had BYU not left to go Independent, or had the WAC FBS conference not imploded.

(01-22-2022 08:55 PM)JSUCleburneslim Wrote:  I’d drop the other JSU , SC State, and fl a&m to add EKU. That would be 12 I believe.

…I'm pretty sure they are changing the name of Jackson State to Prime Time U. (PTU for short)...

(01-23-2022 08:23 AM)JSUCleburneslim Wrote:  How will they walk away from the money they are currently getting?

...they might not have a CHOICE, or at least will have to ante up a truckload of $$$$... I think if they DO ultimately form the 'Premier League of College Football', the entry fees/commitment will be quite hefty - in other words, no pay, no play.

And you have to think 'one SUPER LEAGUE' - that means NO current conferences, at least for football - the Olympic sports could still be the 'legacy conferences'.

(01-22-2022 07:54 PM)All4One Wrote:  

UNLVFan90 d' Wrote:  No thanks.

Meh. I'd expect nothing less from a fan of a school who has one of the single most irrevocably abysmal football programs in Division 1 history whose Mountain West invitation was gifted strictly due to location. There's a reason you weren't part of the Airport 5.

Um, also no thanks.

(01-23-2022 03:00 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 07:54 PM)All4One Wrote:  

UNLVFan90 d' Wrote:  No thanks.

Meh. I'd expect nothing less from a fan of a school who has one of the single most irrevocably abysmal football programs in Division 1 history whose Mountain West invitation was gifted strictly due to location. There's a reason you weren't part of the Airport 5.

Um, also no thanks.

Doubtful Louisiana Tech will be able to afford paying their athletes hundreds of dollars or thousands per game at the next level, but okay then.

The large privates like Northwestern and Notre Dame are against pay-for-play idea. Since the privates are not public schools, I could see a more of a league of privates schools formed an identity like the NCCAA because they can't be forced to follow the laws or court rulings because they are mainly Religious schools. These schools do not have to give their athletes the NIL either. They do have an exemptions because the Seperation of Church and State.

(01-23-2022 03:08 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 03:00 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 07:54 PM)All4One Wrote:  

UNLVFan90 d' Wrote:  No thanks.

Meh. I'd expect nothing less from a fan of a school who has one of the single most irrevocably abysmal football programs in Division 1 history whose Mountain West invitation was gifted strictly due to location. There's a reason you weren't part of the Airport 5.

Um, also no thanks.

Doubtful Louisiana Tech will be able to afford paying their athletes hundreds of dollars or thousands per game at the next level, but okay then.

Thank you for your concern.

(01-22-2022 11:45 PM)JSUCleburneslim Wrote:  If NMSU and UTEP are gone then I’d say

MTSU Tn
WKU. Ky
liberty. Va
EKU. Ky
NCAT. Nc
Jax St Al
KSU. Ga
UTC. Tn
UCA. Ark
MO St. Mo
FIU. Fl
La Tech. La
SHSU. Tx
SFA. Tx

14 schools
tight footprint
Except FIU but what can you do about that?

Add TUNA and SELA if you want 16 and a pod system.

I’d only add TUNA with MAYO.

(01-27-2022 06:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 11:45 PM)JSUCleburneslim Wrote:  If NMSU and UTEP are gone then I’d say

MTSU Tn
WKU. Ky
liberty. Va
EKU. Ky
NCAT. Nc
Jax St Al
KSU. Ga
UTC. Tn
UCA. Ark
MO St. Mo
FIU. Fl
La Tech. La
SHSU. Tx
SFA. Tx

14 schools
tight footprint
Except FIU but what can you do about that?

Add TUNA and SELA if you want 16 and a pod system.

I’d only add TUNA with MAYO.

...I'm glad someone else popped on that, as I have no clue who TUNA is.... is it THE University of North Alabama, perhaps?

Yep, that's TUNA (the University of North Alabama) alright. I know this as a Montevallo grad, one of UNA's old rivals in the GSC.

(01-28-2022 02:17 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Yep, that's TUNA (the University of North Alabama) alright. I know this as a Montevallo grad, one of UNA's old rivals in the GSC.

...my wife went to Montevallo her freshman year (in the late 80's) before transferring to UAB and ultimately Nursing School... she loved Mootown, tho, and still has a group of friends from that one year she hangs with to this day (all 'Purples', if that means anything... )

I remember as a kid my dad taking me to basketball games at Birmingham-Southern (actually they played at Boutwell Auditorium downtown, and sometimes at the old State Fairgrounds Expo Building), and seeing them play UAH, AUM, and I'm pretty sure Montevallo... at some point I think those were all NAIA? Or at least the same 'general level' in bball that they played each other quite a bit...