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RE: The AAC under achieved in basketball big time.
(01-26-2022 11:03 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 10:39 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 10:30 AM)Meatwad Wrote:  one of your freshman transfers from last season is balling the F out at LSU and is looking like a first round pick.

Don't remind me. He was a John Brannen recruit. Brannen often sat him for a walk on from England. Its been a rough couple years for UC basketball fans.

What really sucks is had they kept Eason this is a tournament team. He would have solved so many of their issues. He's an elite rebounder on both ends and has been an elite high usage inside scorer.

UC's biggest problem is none of their bigs are strong around the rim. None rebound well out of their area. They don't have any dude that just goes and gets it on the glass.

Yep. Need to get the type of guys who have been the cornerstone of this program for the last 30 years.
01-26-2022 11:13 AM
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RE: The AAC under achieved in basketball big time.
(01-26-2022 11:13 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 11:03 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 10:39 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 10:30 AM)Meatwad Wrote:  one of your freshman transfers from last season is balling the F out at LSU and is looking like a first round pick.

Don't remind me. He was a John Brannen recruit. Brannen often sat him for a walk on from England. Its been a rough couple years for UC basketball fans.

What really sucks is had they kept Eason this is a tournament team. He would have solved so many of their issues. He's an elite rebounder on both ends and has been an elite high usage inside scorer.

UC's biggest problem is none of their bigs are strong around the rim. None rebound well out of their area. They don't have any dude that just goes and gets it on the glass.

Yep. Need to get the type of guys who have been the cornerstone of this program for the last 30 years.

He was our most talented inside guy since at least Maxiell, probably since Kenyon.
01-26-2022 11:25 AM
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RE: The AAC under achieved in basketball big time.
(01-26-2022 10:21 AM)Meatwad Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 09:24 AM)WhalerFan Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 03:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 02:49 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  UCONN was unique in the AAC situation. They were part of a mostly southern conference with no rivalries and no visiting fans. Houston was right at home with us: your CUSA peers.

this is a good argument for fan support.... and little worth to a conversation about why they werent good with 4 and 5stars playing against 3stars and juco...
his point was that uconn is a top 15 quality basketball team...and that was impossible to do in the aac for uconn

I'm here in Connecticut. While most of your point with some on the roster is true the atmosphere changed around here dramatically when the announcement of the move to the Big East happened. Kevin Ollie was one heck of a recruiter but not a good game coach. He won his championship with Jim Calhoun's players. Look at Memphis. All those great recruiting classes and what do they have to show for it? Congrats on the move to the B12. It's good for your university. Let's just hope it's better than what is happening with BCU, Pitt and 'Cuse.
that's not a conflicting statement to you? winning with another coach's players is what people say about coaches that can't recruit.

No not at all. Ollie did win with JC's players. His recruits either didn't pan out, didn't come or had quite a surprise if they stayed with Hurley. For crying out loud, we had Josh Carlton for 4 years. Bouk came after the move to the Big East. AG stayed but only played parts of years and ironically transferred to another AAC school. Our situation was different from others as we were left behind in this conference while others were elevated.
01-26-2022 11:43 AM
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RE: The AAC under achieved in basketball big time.
(01-26-2022 11:43 AM)WhalerFan Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 10:21 AM)Meatwad Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 09:24 AM)WhalerFan Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 03:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 02:49 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  UCONN was unique in the AAC situation. They were part of a mostly southern conference with no rivalries and no visiting fans. Houston was right at home with us: your CUSA peers.

this is a good argument for fan support.... and little worth to a conversation about why they werent good with 4 and 5stars playing against 3stars and juco...
his point was that uconn is a top 15 quality basketball team...and that was impossible to do in the aac for uconn

I'm here in Connecticut. While most of your point with some on the roster is true the atmosphere changed around here dramatically when the announcement of the move to the Big East happened. Kevin Ollie was one heck of a recruiter but not a good game coach. He won his championship with Jim Calhoun's players. Look at Memphis. All those great recruiting classes and what do they have to show for it? Congrats on the move to the B12. It's good for your university. Let's just hope it's better than what is happening with BCU, Pitt and 'Cuse.
that's not a conflicting statement to you? winning with another coach's players is what people say about coaches that can't recruit.

No not at all. Ollie did win with JC's players. His recruits either didn't pan out, didn't come or had quite a surprise if they stayed with Hurley. For crying out loud, we had Josh Carlton for 4 years. Bouk came after the move to the Big East. AG stayed but only played parts of years and ironically transferred to another AAC school. Our situation was different from others as we were left behind in this conference while others were elevated.

You weren't left behind, you fell behind. Stop blaming the conference. You recruited better players than the other AAC teams yet you performed worse. That your fanbase was not enamored with the AAC is not a performance issue, and you had no issue when you won the Natty in 2014. Good luck in the BE, it is where you can stop blaming conference, I guess.
01-26-2022 02:42 PM
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RE: The AAC under achieved in basketball big time.
(01-26-2022 02:42 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 11:43 AM)WhalerFan Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 10:21 AM)Meatwad Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 09:24 AM)WhalerFan Wrote:  
(01-26-2022 03:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  this is a good argument for fan support.... and little worth to a conversation about why they werent good with 4 and 5stars playing against 3stars and juco...
his point was that uconn is a top 15 quality basketball team...and that was impossible to do in the aac for uconn

I'm here in Connecticut. While most of your point with some on the roster is true the atmosphere changed around here dramatically when the announcement of the move to the Big East happened. Kevin Ollie was one heck of a recruiter but not a good game coach. He won his championship with Jim Calhoun's players. Look at Memphis. All those great recruiting classes and what do they have to show for it? Congrats on the move to the B12. It's good for your university. Let's just hope it's better than what is happening with BCU, Pitt and 'Cuse.
that's not a conflicting statement to you? winning with another coach's players is what people say about coaches that can't recruit.

No not at all. Ollie did win with JC's players. His recruits either didn't pan out, didn't come or had quite a surprise if they stayed with Hurley. For crying out loud, we had Josh Carlton for 4 years. Bouk came after the move to the Big East. AG stayed but only played parts of years and ironically transferred to another AAC school. Our situation was different from others as we were left behind in this conference while others were elevated.

You weren't left behind, you fell behind. Stop blaming the conference. You recruited better players than the other AAC teams yet you performed worse. That your fanbase was not enamored with the AAC is not a performance issue, and you had no issue when you won the Natty in 2014. Good luck in the BE, it is where you can stop blaming conference, I guess.

While there were many factors in the decision to exclude UConn from the power conferences, we were in effect left behind. Much like when Temple was asked to leave the Big East years ago. Connecticut gets it's (rightly deserved) blame for the lawsuit but Louisville CC and Rutty? As sleepy Joe says Come on Man!
01-26-2022 07:56 PM
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RE: The AAC under achieved in basketball big time.
(01-26-2022 01:19 AM)WhalerFan Wrote:  
(01-21-2022 05:45 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  Idk as there was a lot of individual program underachievement. There is plenty of space for programs to build consistent success though.

1) UConn - Underachieved. Gone
2) Cincinnati - So-So achievement. Did what was expected under Cronin. Garbage under Brannen. Don’t foresee us not making the tourney many years under Wes. Doesn’t matter though. Gone
3) Houston - Overachieved. Gone
4) Temple - Underachieved. Will they ever get back to level with new coach? Staying. Not sure.
5) Memphis - Underachieved. Staying. Too much support and likely will get better. Penny or new coach?
6) Wichita- Downhill trend since joining. Staying. Too much support and likely will get better.

UConn has revived itself in the Big East. Perhaps we saw the writing on the wall and bolted when the time was right. 5 Big East schools in the top 25. UConn is now a top 15 strength school. That would NEVER have happened in the AAC.
I'm honestly happy for UConn. You did want was important for your school and it's worked out pretty good.

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