(01-22-2022 09:01 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 08:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 08:37 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  This is the end of Dooley.

houston is a top 10 team, losing to us at home shouldnt be a killer.. we beat dan hurely by like 50 at home the last time we played...and he's doing fine

winning just 1 of your next 2 games and you are back to exceeding expectations

Hurley beat yo ass the last time we played, liarface.

lol i meant the end of the 18-19 season

and your the liarface lol as you beat us @uconn, not at home.. we beat you "at home"

(01-22-2022 09:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  .we havent been badly blownout since then 5 years ago, and only 1 game where we didnt have a chance to win it late (@oregon 2 seasons ago)

my point, being bad losses can be motivation...they could actually make you come out stronger

I mean... you never had a chance to beat Baylor last year. Not a knock on you. They were incredible that game (and the next).

(01-22-2022 09:16 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 09:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  .we havent been badly blownout since then 5 years ago, and only 1 game where we didnt have a chance to win it late (@oregon 2 seasons ago)

my point, being bad losses can be motivation...they could actually make you come out stronger

I mean... you never had a chance to beat Baylor last year. Not a knock on you. They were incredible that game (and the next).

i guess them too lol i erased that game from my memory

(01-22-2022 09:08 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 09:01 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 08:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 08:37 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  This is the end of Dooley.

houston is a top 10 team, losing to us at home shouldnt be a killer.. we beat dan hurely by like 50 at home the last time we played...and he's doing fine

winning just 1 of your next 2 games and you are back to exceeding expectations

Hurley beat yo ass the last time we played, liarface.

Credit Hurley he managed to finish 9th and 5th in the AAC

We'll always remember the kung fu jacket tear poses...

(01-22-2022 09:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 08:44 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 08:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 08:37 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  This is the end of Dooley.

houston is a top 10 team, losing to us at home should be a killer.. we beat dan hurely by like 50 at home the last time we played...and he's doing fine

winning just 1 of your next 2 games and you are back to exceeding expectations

That was year 1 of Dan Hurley. This is year 4 of Dooley, and this team quit. You think this team is winning 1 of it's next 2 games? You think they are responding from this and beating Memphis or Cincy? I know you don't.

depends, embarrassing losses are half the time motivational

i always tell people the turning point for Houston was wichita embarrassing us in 2017 ... prior to that game sampson was preaching "nba offense" and the goal of the team was to lead the conference in scoring.. i remember after the wichita game, he said "this will never happen again" and immediately changed..
i dont think sampson has preached anything about offensive goals ever since, since preached defense and rebounding

wichita could have beaten us by 40+ if they wanted (if they left starters out) i as a fan thought, there was no way we could compete with that team, they are just better.. Sampson post game said we will see what happens the next time we play, and what happened, wont happen again... i thought that was wild at the time...we played them 2 more times that year, we won both ..we havent been badly blownout since then 5 years ago, and only 1 game where we didnt have a chance to win it late (@oregon 2 seasons ago)

my point, being bad losses can be motivation...they could actually make you come out stronger

Dooley coached teams have always been soft. He's never had a team that wasn't. So he's going to all of a sudden make this team not soft in less than a week? Nope.

(01-22-2022 09:30 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Dooley coached teams have always been soft. He's never had a team that wasn't. So he's going to all of a sudden make this team not soft in less than a week? Nope.

ecu is probably going to be always soft under dooley, this year and next year...

but they can fortify their strengths...

you can win without being a great defensive/rebounding team.... ucf is in the NIT/NCAA conversation...USF just outrebounded them by +30 2 weeks ago...that is an insane rebounding margin

like i said if you were trying to make a case that ecu should be competing for the national title, he is probably too soft of a coach to get you there... but there are alot of things you can achieve without being a physical force

(01-22-2022 09:36 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-22-2022 09:30 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Dooley coached teams have always been soft. He's never had a team that wasn't. So he's going to all of a sudden make this team not soft in less than a week? Nope.

ecu is probably going to be always soft under dooley, this year and next year...

but they can fortify their strengths...

you can win without being a great defensive/rebounding team.... ucf is in the NIT/NCAA conversation...USF just outrebounded them by +30 2 weeks ago...that is an insane rebounding margin

like i said if you were trying to make a case that ecu should be competing for the national title, he is probably too soft of a coach to get you there... but there are alot of things you can achieve without being a physical force

Not just soft physically, but soft mentally. You punch a Dooley team in the mouth and they roll over and play dead. You didn't see UCF roll over after they got humiliated by USF and then get down big against ECU. That's what I mean by "soft" and you can't win anything if you quit every time the going gets tough. Something bad happens to Dooley teams and they go in the tank for weeks.

Houston is a top 10 job in the country, and people still get on this thread to ask if Kelvin is going somewhere in the next year or two. Lmfao.

And why is Kellen leaving? Dude is the coach in waiting. For a top 10 program. Kelvin only has 5 or 6 years left.

(01-23-2022 12:02 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Houston is a top 10 job in the country, and people still get on this thread to ask if Kelvin is going somewhere in the next year or two. Lmfao.

And why is Kellen leaving? Dude is the coach in waiting. For a top 10 program. Kelvin only has 5 or 6 years left.

no one is waiting 5-6 years when they can get top jobs today.. the potential of another final 4 Calibur team can be enticing to him for 1 more year.. no way he is waiting 5-6 years.. he was already getting mid-major offers last year.. a high major team will start to come knocking this offseason...

most coaches think they can make any high major program top 10, and he can come back to Houston if he really wanted to be back

(01-23-2022 12:09 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 12:02 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Houston is a top 10 job in the country, and people still get on this thread to ask if Kelvin is going somewhere in the next year or two. Lmfao.

And why is Kellen leaving? Dude is the coach in waiting. For a top 10 program. Kelvin only has 5 or 6 years left.

no one is waiting 5-6 years when they can get top jobs today.. the potential of another final 4 Calibur team can be enticing to him for 1 more year.. no way he is waiting 5-6 years.. he was already getting mid-major offers last year.. a high major team will start to come knocking this offseason...

most coaches think they can make any high major program top 10, and he can come back to Houston if he really wanted to be back

What job is he getting that will be better than being the top assistant at Houston? Knowing it is his job when Kelvin retires.

He has the keys to a top 10 program in 5-6 years.

(01-23-2022 12:27 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 12:09 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 12:02 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Houston is a top 10 job in the country, and people still get on this thread to ask if Kelvin is going somewhere in the next year or two. Lmfao.

And why is Kellen leaving? Dude is the coach in waiting. For a top 10 program. Kelvin only has 5 or 6 years left.

no one is waiting 5-6 years when they can get top jobs today.. the potential of another final 4 Calibur team can be enticing to him for 1 more year.. no way he is waiting 5-6 years.. he was already getting mid-major offers last year.. a high major team will start to come knocking this offseason...

most coaches think they can make any high major program top 10, and he can come back to Houston if he really wanted to be back

What job is he getting that will be better than being the top assistant at Houston? Knowing it is his job when Kelvin retires.

He has the keys to a top 10 program in 5-6 years.

you are missing the point that he can come back if he wanted houston that much... or that houston wasnt a top 10 job when he took over

there are zero assistants that would stay at a assistant job for 5-6 years, when being offered high major jobs

every coach believes they can make any high major programa top 10...like kelvin did with Houston

looking at likely job openings or might look a for a new coach.. he isnt turning down maryland, Georgetown, pitt, arizona st, cal, Georgia, mizzou, Butler to be an assistant SIX MORE YEARS!!! literally, no one would do that... no one!

(01-23-2022 12:43 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 12:27 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 12:09 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 12:02 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Houston is a top 10 job in the country, and people still get on this thread to ask if Kelvin is going somewhere in the next year or two. Lmfao.

And why is Kellen leaving? Dude is the coach in waiting. For a top 10 program. Kelvin only has 5 or 6 years left.

no one is waiting 5-6 years when they can get top jobs today.. the potential of another final 4 Calibur team can be enticing to him for 1 more year.. no way he is waiting 5-6 years.. he was already getting mid-major offers last year.. a high major team will start to come knocking this offseason...

most coaches think they can make any high major program top 10, and he can come back to Houston if he really wanted to be back

What job is he getting that will be better than being the top assistant at Houston? Knowing it is his job when Kelvin retires.

He has the keys to a top 10 program in 5-6 years.

you are missing the point that he can come back if he wanted houston that much... or that houston wasnt a top 10 job when he took over

there are zero assistants that would stay at a assistant job for 5-6 years, when being offered high major jobs

every coach believes they can make any high major programa top 10...like kelvin did with Houston

looking at likely job openings or might look a for a new coach.. he isnt turning down maryland, Georgetown, pitt, arizona st, cal, Georgia, mizzou, Butler to be an assistant SIX MORE YEARS!!! literally, no one would do that... no one!

Fail at any of those stops and coming back to Houston isn’t an option.

(01-23-2022 12:48 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Fail at any of those stops and coming back to Houston isn’t an option.

agreed but no coach thinks that are going to fail going in... that won't be in his equation

like i said, how good next years roster looks might be enticing enough for him to stay 1 more year, and try and get a title with his dad... we arent holding on to him for 6 years as an assistant

(01-23-2022 12:51 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 12:48 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Fail at any of those stops and coming back to Houston isn’t an option.

agreed but no coach thinks that are going to fail going in... that won't be in his equation

like i said, how good next years roster looks might be enticing enough for him to stay 1 more year, and try and get a title with his dad... we arent holding on to him for 6 years as an assistant

We shall see. If Kellen does leave, will be interesting to see the names tossed around to replace Kelvin when he retires. Should be a long line.

(01-23-2022 12:02 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Houston is a top 10 job in the country, and people still get on this thread to ask if Kelvin is going somewhere in the next year or two. Lmfao.

And why is Kellen leaving? Dude is the coach in waiting. For a top 10 program. Kelvin only has 5 or 6 years left.

I think you might be a little over your skis here.

It's incredibly difficult to overstate how much progress has been made over the past ~8 years or so, but you are really reaching to make those kind of Top 10 statements.

Now, I agree with you that Kelvin isn't going anywhere because it's a perfect marriage of coach and career arc, but that doesn't mean we should depart planet Earth.

(01-23-2022 12:43 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 12:27 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 12:09 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-23-2022 12:02 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Houston is a top 10 job in the country, and people still get on this thread to ask if Kelvin is going somewhere in the next year or two. Lmfao.

And why is Kellen leaving? Dude is the coach in waiting. For a top 10 program. Kelvin only has 5 or 6 years left.

no one is waiting 5-6 years when they can get top jobs today.. the potential of another final 4 Calibur team can be enticing to him for 1 more year.. no way he is waiting 5-6 years.. he was already getting mid-major offers last year.. a high major team will start to come knocking this offseason...

most coaches think they can make any high major program top 10, and he can come back to Houston if he really wanted to be back

What job is he getting that will be better than being the top assistant at Houston? Knowing it is his job when Kelvin retires.

He has the keys to a top 10 program in 5-6 years.

you are missing the point that he can come back if he wanted houston that much... or that houston wasnt a top 10 job when he took over

there are zero assistants that would stay at a assistant job for 5-6 years, when being offered high major jobs

every coach believes they can make any high major programa top 10...like kelvin did with Houston

looking at likely job openings or might look a for a new coach.. he isnt turning down maryland, Georgetown, pitt, arizona st, cal, Georgia, mizzou, Butler to be an assistant SIX MORE YEARS!!! literally, no one would do that... no one!

He is enjoying working with his father and family. If he wanted a HC job he’d already be gone.

16/5/67 for ECU. Yikes.

Having an elite coach in college is what matters. Houston has that, hence why they are still the best team in the league minus two of their best players.

Kelvin is an elite coach. Houston isn't a top 10 job by any measure. They were basically irrelevant for what, 30 years?

(01-23-2022 06:58 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  16/5/67 for ECU. Yikes.

Having an elite coach in college is what matters. Houston has that, hence why they are still the best team in the league minus two of their best players.

Sampson is an elite coach, Dooley is an awful coach who's teams quit at the first sign of adversity, and he needs to be fired.

(01-22-2022 03:35 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  UCF is so damn streaky. They just got hot. Fun game.

Too many times some of them lack confidence (mostly shooting out of rhythm) but with true freshmen Darius Johnson now starting at the point...he is learning pretty quick about the college game and he is one of the few that attacks the lane for dishes to Center or wing or go to hoop for score and/or foul (get to line).

After UCF's and UH's wins (Temple/usf game was cancelled due to covid outbreak at usf), he is the latest standings as of this am: