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Big 12 will have 9 game conference schedule
https://twitter.com/DaveMcCannTV/status/...4786778113

CBS’ Dennis Dodd reports a 9-game conference schedule for the Big 12. BYU will shed all but three teams from its current 2023 lineup. Decisions! Decisions!
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A bit surprised at keeping 9. But it seems more and more Power Conf are doing that.
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I hope this is temporary and ends after 2024. I think the Big 12 is better off at 8 games if they only have 12 members.
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This will at least help UCF with our OOC scheduling woes.
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This will add value to the Big 12 future TV partners...as the new 12 team league will now have 54 conf games vs just 48 in a 8 conf game season.

NOTE: The current Big 12 plays just 45 conf games...so the extra 9 conf games, odds are those games will mean more vs a 4th non-conf game added to most schedules, which don't have much value at all.
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(01-20-2022 02:28 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  This will at least help UCF with our OOC scheduling woes.

03-lmfao I think that will mostly take care of itself with the move. 03-lmfao
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(01-20-2022 02:28 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  This will at least help UCF with our OOC scheduling woes.

Any chance on adding USF to the future schedule? I'm guessing not.
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(01-21-2022 12:36 PM)BaylorHistory Wrote:  
(01-20-2022 02:28 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  This will at least help UCF with our OOC scheduling woes.

Any chance on adding USF to the future schedule? I'm guessing not.

They should IMO. Guarantees them another game in Florida as well as sustaining the rivalry.
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(01-21-2022 01:54 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  
(01-21-2022 12:36 PM)BaylorHistory Wrote:  
(01-20-2022 02:28 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  This will at least help UCF with our OOC scheduling woes.

Any chance on adding USF to the future schedule? I'm guessing not.

They should IMO. Guarantees them another game in Florida as well as sustaining the rivalry.
I’m sure we would probably like to, but usf’s future schedules are filled until 2030 or so. It would take a lot of shuffling.
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(01-21-2022 01:54 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  
(01-21-2022 12:36 PM)BaylorHistory Wrote:  
(01-20-2022 02:28 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  This will at least help UCF with our OOC scheduling woes.

Any chance on adding USF to the future schedule? I'm guessing not.

They should IMO. Guarantees them another game in Florida as well as sustaining the rivalry.

Meh. Schedule Florida, Miami, or State and smack them around. The Gasparilla Bowl was a fun watch.
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(01-21-2022 02:21 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  
(01-21-2022 01:54 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  
(01-21-2022 12:36 PM)BaylorHistory Wrote:  
(01-20-2022 02:28 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  This will at least help UCF with our OOC scheduling woes.

Any chance on adding USF to the future schedule? I'm guessing not.

They should IMO. Guarantees them another game in Florida as well as sustaining the rivalry.

Meh. Schedule Florida, Miami, or State and smack them around. The Gasparilla Bowl was a fun watch.
That’s the strategy I’d prefer, although fsu won’t even return our calls, we tried to schedule Miami but the deal fell through, and uf we finally got on our schedule in a 2-1 (not including the bowl game).
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RE: Big 12 will have 9 game conference schedule
(01-21-2022 03:50 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(01-21-2022 02:21 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  
(01-21-2022 01:54 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  
(01-21-2022 12:36 PM)BaylorHistory Wrote:  
(01-20-2022 02:28 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  This will at least help UCF with our OOC scheduling woes.

Any chance on adding USF to the future schedule? I'm guessing not.

They should IMO. Guarantees them another game in Florida as well as sustaining the rivalry.

Meh. Schedule Florida, Miami, or State and smack them around. The Gasparilla Bowl was a fun watch.
That’s the strategy I’d prefer, although fsu won’t even return our calls, we tried to schedule Miami but the deal fell through, and uf we finally got on our schedule in a 2-1 (not including the bowl game).

I was going to say Miami if you could get a longer term 1:1, but figured they would be unlikely.

FSU wants to stay Florida’s main rival and they play Miami yearly anyways so doubt there is a chance there.

Florida to me seems to just want to be the best program in Florida so if another program comes knocking then they seem willing to play (example the 2 for 1). Keep knocking down their door and maybe they could become more of a yearly or at least rotation with another one or two Florida schools. Until that day I’d keep the USF rivalry going especially in Big 12. I have a feeling the programs that maintained their rivalries will be happy 10-20 years from now.
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USF, FAU, or FIU would be good as our G5 game of the year.
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(01-20-2022 04:08 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  A bit surprised at keeping 9. But it seems more and more Power Conf are doing that.
I think nine makes sense for two reasons.

1. It adds an extra automatic Power 5 game to the schedule, which will likely help schedule strength across the league.
2. It requires members to find one fewer nonconference game, which could become more difficult in the new landscape.

Honestly, I prefer the nine-game conference schedule format, but I do understand the competitive advantage that comes with playing eight and having everyone's record look better in the end.
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They'll explore the idea of 8 as they negotiate with TV partners for a new contract. 8 is not dead, there just is no reason to drop now when you have OUT and your existing Fox/ESPN deal.
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(01-24-2022 02:37 PM)bear2be2 Wrote:  
(01-20-2022 04:08 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  A bit surprised at keeping 9. But it seems more and more Power Conf are doing that.
I think nine makes sense for two reasons.

1. It adds an extra automatic Power 5 game to the schedule, which will likely help schedule strength across the league.
2. It requires members to find one fewer nonconference game, which could become more difficult in the new landscape.

Honestly, I prefer the nine-game conference schedule format, but I do understand the competitive advantage that comes with playing eight and having everyone's record look better in the end.
9 game schedule also helps schools like UCF that typically have a hard time finding teams that actually will schedule us.
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https://kslsports.com/478463/

According to Kansas State Athletic Director Gene Taylor:

They are working on divisions for 2023-24. The mention of UCF, Cincinnati, and Houston being in place for the 2023-24 season means they would be paying a buyout with the American Athletic Conference.

We think right now we’re focused on nine conference games in football, I think 18 in the two basketballs, and so we’re just really starting to have those conversations. We’re getting a little deeper as to what that looks like,” said Taylor. “Our goal is to present this as an AD group to each other to vote on in our March meetings or talk about in March meetings and vote on final approval of those divisions in May. But it has been talked about and that’s kind of the plan right now.”

Basically the nine-game conference schedule is because of the alliance among the Pac-12 and the Big Ten and the ACC make this alliance will make OOC games harder to come by. It also increases inventory available in the Big 12 TV deal.
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(02-05-2022 12:33 PM)f1do Wrote:  https://kslsports.com/478463/

According to Kansas State Athletic Director Gene Taylor:

They are working on divisions for 2023-24. The mention of UCF, Cincinnati, and Houston being in place for the 2023-24 season means they would be paying a buyout with the American Athletic Conference.

We think right now we’re focused on nine conference games in football, I think 18 in the two basketballs, and so we’re just really starting to have those conversations. We’re getting a little deeper as to what that looks like,” said Taylor. “Our goal is to present this as an AD group to each other to vote on in our March meetings or talk about in March meetings and vote on final approval of those divisions in May. But it has been talked about and that’s kind of the plan right now.”

Basically the nine-game conference schedule is because of the alliance among the Pac-12 and the Big Ten and the ACC make this alliance will make OOC games harder to come by. It also increases inventory available in the Big 12 TV deal.

The certainty with which he said this does not bode well for Memphis and USF.

“ So we’ll have 14 schools in 23-24 and 24-25 and then we’ll go back to 12,”
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(02-05-2022 10:11 PM)Acres Wrote:  
(02-05-2022 12:33 PM)f1do Wrote:  https://kslsports.com/478463/

According to Kansas State Athletic Director Gene Taylor:

They are working on divisions for 2023-24. The mention of UCF, Cincinnati, and Houston being in place for the 2023-24 season means they would be paying a buyout with the American Athletic Conference.

We think right now we’re focused on nine conference games in football, I think 18 in the two basketballs, and so we’re just really starting to have those conversations. We’re getting a little deeper as to what that looks like,” said Taylor. “Our goal is to present this as an AD group to each other to vote on in our March meetings or talk about in March meetings and vote on final approval of those divisions in May. But it has been talked about and that’s kind of the plan right now.”

Basically the nine-game conference schedule is because of the alliance among the Pac-12 and the Big Ten and the ACC make this alliance will make OOC games harder to come by. It also increases inventory available in the Big 12 TV deal.

The certainty with which he said this does not bode well for Memphis and USF.

“ So we’ll have 14 schools in 23-24 and 24-25 and then we’ll go back to 12,”


They're going into media negotiations with the new 12. There's no reason whatsoever to think media partners would have a pro rata clause included for any new schools.

Memphis, USF, SDSU, Boise, etc will not be entering the Big 12 unless there's further defections or until a new media contract.
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