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The Next Steps That Greg Sankey, The SEC, and ESPN Should Make
We are in the midst of a coordinated effort by the Big Ten, PAC 12, and ACC to wrest control of the College Football Playoffs from ESPN, blunt the impact of Texas and Oklahoma's move to the SEC, and carve out concessions for themselves in the form of guaranteed, not earned, access to the playoffs, and in the beginning death throes of the NCAA to shape a post NCAA world in which they can create a new governing body which is more in their favor, than one led by a more powerful, and arguably more visionary, SEC and influenced by ESPN.

The moment to seize the direction of the future of college sports is now. Warren, Phillips, and Kiavkoff are at least aware enough to know this. After years in competitive sales and even in nonprofit work there is one immutable truth about a seminal opportunity, it's a fleeting moment, which if not seized may not appear again in a lifetime, and maybe not even then.

ESPN and the SEC have such a moment to seize now. All they need do is to get out in front of the SCOTUS on pay for play. Start such a conference and do it this Summer. And do it without issuing a formal invitation to any particular school, a simple blanket invitation should be offered to any schools which desire to help get the new tier established. They would join with the 16 members of the SEC in creating the new league complete with pay for play basketball and baseball.

No specific invitations means no tortuous interference can be claimed. All applying can be worked in accordingly. Parameters for the amount needed to invest to join would have to be established. Rights values could be promised by ESPN who would also control playoff rights for the new league.

As a different concept set up and operated for profit and paying taxes it is reasonable to assume it would be viewed as a legal alternative to amateur sports. Therefore, interested schools in the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, and PAC 12 would have a chance to choose to be a part.

The risk is theirs. The moves are in concert with recent court decisions, and it is their chance not to have their futures decided by a few commissioners who are sold on a regressive stagnation which seeks to redeem a failed model and which would continue down the same path leading to dissolution. Do it before they gain any associative ties upon your schools. They should have the choice to take a new path, and one not beholden to an old entrenched bureaucracy earning a fat living on the sacrifices and backs of unpaid young people.

There are at least another 24 to 32 schools which would likely embrace this future. Before they, the SEC, and ESPN are tied down by mental Lilliputians it's time for Gulliver to travel on.

So, Greg get together with ESPN/ABC/Disney and chart the future and neither look back nor mourn the laggards of history. A future with 2 conferences in one league with regional divisions beckons to all with unity, cohesion, and a self-made path free of polls and committees to championships. And all of it maximizing more than just football. Basketball and Baseball are ready as well!

So, let's get busy doing it before the socialist zombies of the NCAA try to eat the living!
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Now that is a fresh approach if I've ever heard one.

It would be interesting theater if nothing else.
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RE: The Next Steps That Greg Sankey, The SEC, and ESPN Should Make
Stanley already sold a profitable future to get OU and UT to switch conferences. I’m sure there will be great divide between what the alliance Gleans appropriate moving forward, probably more inline with current NCAA standards, than what the SEC is preparing for. I’m sure dissenters will inquire with the SEC after failed attempts in their current conferences won’t yield the rules and regulations y to o keep up with what the SEC moves forward with.

Next couple of years could be wilder than we ever imagined in terms of realignment if the Alliance stays close to current NCAA standards.
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(01-17-2022 01:46 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Now that is a fresh approach if I've ever heard one.

It would be interesting theater if nothing else.

I wrote a lengthy post a couple of days ago, and got to the end and lost it. That
has happened a few times. It is physical at times, not carelessness.

ATU, you made a good point that does needs emphasized. What the SEC and Sankey do on the expansion front does impact all in the higher levels of college athletics. Of course the SEC adding Texas and OU, which was a huge matter, would generate reactions of resentment, a measure of panic, and efforts at saving face. Sankey, ESPN, OU/TX, and other strategic players knew this prior to embarking on the initiative.

The "Alliance" is rather vague in purpose and the artificial unification will soon fall to the wayside. Really, it is saying to the SEC, "please don't add any ACC schools or do further expansion that impacts the interests of the BIG, PAC12, and the ACC".

They decided to do scheduling agreements with each other as an outcome? Wonderful, they could have done that long before the SEC expanded. Years ago, USC & Stanford sabotaged a PAC/BIG scheduling agreement because of their love for scheduling Notre Dame. An individual school's perceived self-interest prevailed over a conference's goal. If Virginia Tech wants to schedule Oregon State, or Nebraska schedules Boston College, let's clap. The SEC has an abundance of OOC scheduling options, and they can increase the number of conference games as desired.

They will all come to the table on the playoffs after the posturing wanes. Too much money is on the line not to do so. I believe they all, including the SEC, need to realize that ESPN interests may not be identical to the missions, needs, and the sustainability of each conference and individual schools.

Sankey and company need to synthesize OU and TX into the SEC as soon as reasonably attainable, plan future scheduling and groupings, focus on the broadcasting elements and enhancing revenue, and press for a cooperative and lucrative playoff format. Right now, I would not be itching to see more SEC expansion. If two grade A+ schools suddenly fall before the SEC knees, and they would be glorious "fits", OK, don't dismiss it.

The SEC is in great shape.
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RE: The Next Steps That Greg Sankey, The SEC, and ESPN Should Make
(01-21-2022 10:46 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 01:46 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Now that is a fresh approach if I've ever heard one.

It would be interesting theater if nothing else.

I wrote a lengthy post a couple of days ago, and got to the end and lost it. That
has happened a few times. It is physical at times, not carelessness.

ATU, you made a good point that does needs emphasized. What the SEC and Sankey do on the expansion front does impact all in the higher levels of college athletics. Of course the SEC adding Texas and OU, which was a huge matter, would generate reactions of resentment, a measure of panic, and efforts at saving face. Sankey, ESPN, OU/TX, and other strategic players knew this prior to embarking on the initiative.

The "Alliance" is rather vague in purpose and the artificial unification will soon fall to the wayside. Really, it is saying to the SEC, "please don't add any ACC schools or do further expansion that impacts the interests of the BIG, PAC12, and the ACC".

They decided to do scheduling agreements with each other as an outcome? Wonderful, they could have done that long before the SEC expanded. Years ago, USC & Stanford sabotaged a PAC/BIG scheduling agreement because of their love for scheduling Notre Dame. An individual school's perceived self-interest prevailed over a conference's goal. If Virginia Tech wants to schedule Oregon State, or Nebraska schedules Boston College, let's clap. The SEC has an abundance of OOC scheduling options, and they can increase the number of conference games as desired.

They will all come to the table on the playoffs after the posturing wanes. Too much money is on the line not to do so. I believe they all, including the SEC, need to realize that ESPN interests may not be identical to the missions, needs, and the sustainability of each conference and individual schools.

Sankey and company need to synthesize OU and TX into the SEC as soon as reasonably attainable, plan future scheduling and groupings, focus on the broadcasting elements and enhancing revenue, and press for a cooperative and lucrative playoff format. Right now, I would not be itching to see more SEC expansion. If two grade A+ schools suddenly fall before the SEC knees, and they would be glorious "fits", OK, don't dismiss it.

The SEC is in great shape.

The NCAA convention gave control over structure to the various divisions to determine. This means that limits on divisions or requirements to even have divisions will be likely removed by the FBS. That opens the door for larger conferences and further consolidation among the P5 and G5 which will see further division when athletes are deemed to be employees.

Normally I would agree with a proscribed period of integration for OU and UT but the forces at work indicate a 20 member to 24-member conference is now viable as they are no longer mandated restrictions upon structure. The looming 40 million dollar deficit between ACC bluebloods and the SEC and B1G cellar dwellers will no longer be tolerated, especially now that such money is making football first schools in those 2 conferences stronger in hoops than basketball first schools in the ACC.

There will be more additions made.
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RE: The Next Steps That Greg Sankey, The SEC, and ESPN Should Make
(01-21-2022 07:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-21-2022 10:46 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 01:46 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Now that is a fresh approach if I've ever heard one.

It would be interesting theater if nothing else.

I wrote a lengthy post a couple of days ago, and got to the end and lost it. That
has happened a few times. It is physical at times, not carelessness.

ATU, you made a good point that does needs emphasized. What the SEC and Sankey do on the expansion front does impact all in the higher levels of college athletics. Of course the SEC adding Texas and OU, which was a huge matter, would generate reactions of resentment, a measure of panic, and efforts at saving face. Sankey, ESPN, OU/TX, and other strategic players knew this prior to embarking on the initiative.

The "Alliance" is rather vague in purpose and the artificial unification will soon fall to the wayside. Really, it is saying to the SEC, "please don't add any ACC schools or do further expansion that impacts the interests of the BIG, PAC12, and the ACC".

They decided to do scheduling agreements with each other as an outcome? Wonderful, they could have done that long before the SEC expanded. Years ago, USC & Stanford sabotaged a PAC/BIG scheduling agreement because of their love for scheduling Notre Dame. An individual school's perceived self-interest prevailed over a conference's goal. If Virginia Tech wants to schedule Oregon State, or Nebraska schedules Boston College, let's clap. The SEC has an abundance of OOC scheduling options, and they can increase the number of conference games as desired.

They will all come to the table on the playoffs after the posturing wanes. Too much money is on the line not to do so. I believe they all, including the SEC, need to realize that ESPN interests may not be identical to the missions, needs, and the sustainability of each conference and individual schools.

Sankey and company need to synthesize OU and TX into the SEC as soon as reasonably attainable, plan future scheduling and groupings, focus on the broadcasting elements and enhancing revenue, and press for a cooperative and lucrative playoff format. Right now, I would not be itching to see more SEC expansion. If two grade A+ schools suddenly fall before the SEC knees, and they would be glorious "fits", OK, don't dismiss it.

The SEC is in great shape.

The NCAA convention gave control over structure to the various divisions to determine. This means that limits on divisions or requirements to even have divisions will be likely removed by the FBS. That opens the door for larger conferences and further consolidation among the P5 and G5 which will see further division when athletes are deemed to be employees.

Normally I would agree with a proscribed period of integration for OU and UT but the forces at work indicate a 20 member to 24-member conference is now viable as they are no longer mandated restrictions upon structure. The looming 40 million dollar deficit between ACC bluebloods and the SEC and B1G cellar dwellers will no longer be tolerated, especially now that such money is making football first schools in those 2 conferences stronger in hoops than basketball first schools in the ACC.

There will be more additions made.

Finebaum was on the radio the other day advocating for Clemson, Florida State and Norte Dame to look at how much it would cost them to leave the ACC if that conference can’t keep up with the SEC, and presumably the B1G, as NIL, TV revenue and general governance of the game moves forward.
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(01-22-2022 07:08 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  
(01-21-2022 07:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-21-2022 10:46 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(01-17-2022 01:46 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Now that is a fresh approach if I've ever heard one.

It would be interesting theater if nothing else.

I wrote a lengthy post a couple of days ago, and got to the end and lost it. That
has happened a few times. It is physical at times, not carelessness.

ATU, you made a good point that does needs emphasized. What the SEC and Sankey do on the expansion front does impact all in the higher levels of college athletics. Of course the SEC adding Texas and OU, which was a huge matter, would generate reactions of resentment, a measure of panic, and efforts at saving face. Sankey, ESPN, OU/TX, and other strategic players knew this prior to embarking on the initiative.

The "Alliance" is rather vague in purpose and the artificial unification will soon fall to the wayside. Really, it is saying to the SEC, "please don't add any ACC schools or do further expansion that impacts the interests of the BIG, PAC12, and the ACC".

They decided to do scheduling agreements with each other as an outcome? Wonderful, they could have done that long before the SEC expanded. Years ago, USC & Stanford sabotaged a PAC/BIG scheduling agreement because of their love for scheduling Notre Dame. An individual school's perceived self-interest prevailed over a conference's goal. If Virginia Tech wants to schedule Oregon State, or Nebraska schedules Boston College, let's clap. The SEC has an abundance of OOC scheduling options, and they can increase the number of conference games as desired.

They will all come to the table on the playoffs after the posturing wanes. Too much money is on the line not to do so. I believe they all, including the SEC, need to realize that ESPN interests may not be identical to the missions, needs, and the sustainability of each conference and individual schools.

Sankey and company need to synthesize OU and TX into the SEC as soon as reasonably attainable, plan future scheduling and groupings, focus on the broadcasting elements and enhancing revenue, and press for a cooperative and lucrative playoff format. Right now, I would not be itching to see more SEC expansion. If two grade A+ schools suddenly fall before the SEC knees, and they would be glorious "fits", OK, don't dismiss it.

The SEC is in great shape.

The NCAA convention gave control over structure to the various divisions to determine. This means that limits on divisions or requirements to even have divisions will be likely removed by the FBS. That opens the door for larger conferences and further consolidation among the P5 and G5 which will see further division when athletes are deemed to be employees.

Normally I would agree with a proscribed period of integration for OU and UT but the forces at work indicate a 20 member to 24-member conference is now viable as they are no longer mandated restrictions upon structure. The looming 40 million dollar deficit between ACC bluebloods and the SEC and B1G cellar dwellers will no longer be tolerated, especially now that such money is making football first schools in those 2 conferences stronger in hoops than basketball first schools in the ACC.

There will be more additions made.

Finebaum was on the radio the other day advocating for Clemson, Florida State and Norte Dame to look at how much it would cost them to leave the ACC if that conference can’t keep up with the SEC, and presumably the B1G, as NIL, TV revenue and general governance of the game moves forward.

Sounds like an audition for a 4th addition.
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Add then subtract. NIL will do it.

https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/col...state-news
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(01-25-2022 10:58 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Add then subtract. NIL will do it.

https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/col...state-news

Ohio State's vision for athletics and the mood of half of the B1G are diverging. The SEC's strength currently resides in its near unanimous agreement to embrace the change. The Big Ten's weakness is in its divide over change. Both will bear watching.
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(01-25-2022 11:53 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:58 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Add then subtract. NIL will do it.

https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/col...state-news

Ohio State's vision for athletics and the mood of half of the B1G are diverging. The SEC's strength currently resides in its near unanimous agreement to embrace the change. The Big Ten's weakness is in its divide over change. Both will bear watching.

Will be interesting to see which Big Ten schools opt to abandon the collegiate model for the NIL based one. This next shift happens quicker if the SEC leaves the NCAA, if not, it’ll be a long wait for them ACC schools to escape.
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(02-08-2022 05:51 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 11:53 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:58 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Add then subtract. NIL will do it.

https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/col...state-news

Ohio State's vision for athletics and the mood of half of the B1G are diverging. The SEC's strength currently resides in its near unanimous agreement to embrace the change. The Big Ten's weakness is in its divide over change. Both will bear watching.

Will be interesting to see which Big Ten schools opt to abandon the collegiate model for the NIL based one. This next shift happens quicker if the SEC leaves the NCAA, if not, it’ll be a long wait for them ACC schools to escape.

You are correct. The ACC withers under the financial disparity if the SEC doesn't make a break. And pay for play has the capacity to split the B1G, maybe even 7=7.
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(02-08-2022 05:54 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-08-2022 05:51 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 11:53 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:58 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Add then subtract. NIL will do it.

https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/col...state-news

Ohio State's vision for athletics and the mood of half of the B1G are diverging. The SEC's strength currently resides in its near unanimous agreement to embrace the change. The Big Ten's weakness is in its divide over change. Both will bear watching.

Will be interesting to see which Big Ten schools opt to abandon the collegiate model for the NIL based one. This next shift happens quicker if the SEC leaves the NCAA, if not, it’ll be a long wait for them ACC schools to escape.

You are correct. The ACC withers under the financial disparity if the SEC doesn't make a break. And pay for play has the capacity to split the B1G, maybe even 7=7.

Will "the Alliance" try to create their own policies as to NIL, pay-the-players, and even playoffs if such becomes unsettled?

If the NCAA is too rustic and inflexible, with entrenched and conflicting interests, to address the external forces pressing for radical changes in policies and organizational governance, I see divergence and major separations. I don't know when the preparedness becomes critical, but hope it is not chaotic. Perhaps a comprehensive design happens whereby 75+% of power conferences are pleased with it, and the majority of FBS, and even much of FCS, finds it acceptable for their own sphere of needs.
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(02-15-2022 08:47 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(02-08-2022 05:54 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-08-2022 05:51 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 11:53 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-25-2022 10:58 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Add then subtract. NIL will do it.

https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/col...state-news

Ohio State's vision for athletics and the mood of half of the B1G are diverging. The SEC's strength currently resides in its near unanimous agreement to embrace the change. The Big Ten's weakness is in its divide over change. Both will bear watching.

Will be interesting to see which Big Ten schools opt to abandon the collegiate model for the NIL based one. This next shift happens quicker if the SEC leaves the NCAA, if not, it’ll be a long wait for them ACC schools to escape.

You are correct. The ACC withers under the financial disparity if the SEC doesn't make a break. And pay for play has the capacity to split the B1G, maybe even 7=7.

Will "the Alliance" try to create their own policies as to NIL, pay-the-players, and even playoffs if such becomes unsettled?

If the NCAA is too rustic and inflexible, with entrenched and conflicting interests, to address the external forces pressing for radical changes in policies and organizational governance, I see divergence and major separations. I don't know when the preparedness becomes critical, but hope it is not chaotic. Perhaps a comprehensive design happens whereby 75+% of power conferences are pleased with it, and the majority of FBS, and even much of FCS, finds it acceptable for their own sphere of needs.

Separation is coming. Most of the G5 would be better off with a separate system. Six or seven of them could step up. Among the P5 divergence is likely as well. If the SEC takes the lead, then B1G ego and PAC 12 financial limitations could easily create 2 systems. If so that's good for us. The country will see their version as second tier and a culling of the P5 could then take place.
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The ACC in this 'Alliance' will be short-lived, I predict. While the BIG and PAC may have, naturally, their internal discrepancies, they have appreciable homogeneity in terms institutional types, self-awareness, bonding, and expectations for strong, sustained stability. In other words, no body is leaving these two conferences unless financially forced.
I believe the ACC's GoR will get busted before it expires, perhaps sooner than later. While it is less a conference of convenience compared to the Big12, it has factions and types, that show enough diversity that some will defect due to dangling, unforced financial incencentives.

If the 'Alliance' creates a governance mechanism that impacts the terms and conditions of ACC membership, though not being unique to the ACC, that could be the catalyst to eventually declare the GoR null and void.
I can't see ESPN paying the ACC the extra media rights revenue for years for a school that has left, and deny the school media revenue earned as a member of another conference also contracted with ESPN. The ACC will fight to enforce the GoR if it is just one or two that pursue leaving. If it is three or four, plus Notre Dame, that GoR folds under pressure.
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Whatever happens, CFB would do well to look at the increase in NFL playoff ratings versus CFB's poor ratings in Alabama vs Ga., it was the second lowest ever only beating last year which was a weird year. They better come up with a plan that engages the country and not just 40 programs or its going to look more and more like a regional sport like NASCAR.

The lack of a real playoff and replacing it with post season exhibition games is one problem and the second one is you can't create such a disparity of revenues between the leagues.

So if there is an open invitation you better make it so at least 64 teams, maybe more like 72-80 teams can compete to keep the sport more national.
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(02-17-2022 01:51 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  Whatever happens, CFB would do well to look at the increase in NFL playoff ratings versus CFB's poor ratings in Alabama vs Ga., it was the second lowest ever only beating last year which was a weird year. They better come up with a plan that engages the country and not just 40 programs or its going to look more and more like a regional sport like NASCAR.

The lack of a real playoff and replacing it with post season exhibition games is one problem and the second one is you can't create such a disparity of revenues between the leagues.

So if there is an open invitation you better make it so at least 64 teams, maybe more like 72-80 teams can compete to keep the sport more national.

NASCAR was much more popular before they took it nationally. And the SEC will be stronger by simply dominating its region, you know the last region in the nation that still enjoys and reveres physical contact combat sports. SEC championships are harder to win than national championships and if the SEC simply added the best Southern football schools to the conference the rest of the nation would have only accounted for 3 of the last 25, one being USC's stripped title and the 2 Ohio State earned.

If the SEC added Clemson, FSU, Miami and Ohio State we wouldn't need to play anyone else.
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(02-17-2022 02:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 01:51 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  Whatever happens, CFB would do well to look at the increase in NFL playoff ratings versus CFB's poor ratings in Alabama vs Ga., it was the second lowest ever only beating last year which was a weird year. They better come up with a plan that engages the country and not just 40 programs or its going to look more and more like a regional sport like NASCAR.

The lack of a real playoff and replacing it with post season exhibition games is one problem and the second one is you can't create such a disparity of revenues between the leagues.

So if there is an open invitation you better make it so at least 64 teams, maybe more like 72-80 teams can compete to keep the sport more national.

NASCAR was much more popular before they took it nationally. And the SEC will be stronger by simply dominating its region, you know the last region in the nation that still enjoys and reveres physical contact combat sports. SEC championships are harder to win than national championships and if the SEC simply added the best Southern football schools to the conference the rest of the nation would have only accounted for 3 of the last 25, one being USC's stripped title and the 2 Ohio State earned.

If the SEC added Clemson, FSU, Miami and Ohio State we wouldn't need to play anyone else.

Actually, I support regionalism, within reason, for defining conference turf. For a long time, the mindset was to expand into new states for recruiting access, to add new media markets, and to look wider and bigger.

Florida State and Clemson would fit right into the SEC and the fb stadiums, basketball arenas, and baseball stands would fill-up. Natural rivalry games are already there, but would be broader within the same conference.

Some conferences don't have much of a choice but to be far-flung. It is for survival and viability, although the weaknesses become apparent.
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RE: The Next Steps That Greg Sankey, The SEC, and ESPN Should Make
(02-17-2022 02:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-17-2022 01:51 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  Whatever happens, CFB would do well to look at the increase in NFL playoff ratings versus CFB's poor ratings in Alabama vs Ga., it was the second lowest ever only beating last year which was a weird year. They better come up with a plan that engages the country and not just 40 programs or its going to look more and more like a regional sport like NASCAR.

The lack of a real playoff and replacing it with post season exhibition games is one problem and the second one is you can't create such a disparity of revenues between the leagues.

So if there is an open invitation you better make it so at least 64 teams, maybe more like 72-80 teams can compete to keep the sport more national.

NASCAR was much more popular before they took it nationally. And the SEC will be stronger by simply dominating its region, you know the last region in the nation that still enjoys and reveres physical contact combat sports. SEC championships are harder to win than national championships and if the SEC simply added the best Southern football schools to the conference the rest of the nation would have only accounted for 3 of the last 25, one being USC's stripped title and the 2 Ohio State earned.

If the SEC added Clemson, FSU, Miami and Ohio State we wouldn't need to play anyone else.


Adding UNC and Duke would give us 11 of the past 25 basketball champions.

But there we aren't adding UConn or Syracuse or Villanova, so there is a cap on our dominance.
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RE: The Next Steps That Greg Sankey, The SEC, and ESPN Should Make
https://www.si.com/college/2022/03/24/mi...ams-future

Mentions Boise State. This past season, the Presidents for both Oklahoma State and Boise State met and discussed expansion in the Big 12 after the additions of Cincinnati, Houston, UCF and BYU. The Baylor radio sports show, 365 Sports or Sicem Bears, discussed that the Big 12 was ready to add more than 4 schools at the time but there were some problems that needed time. Boise State had stadium capacity issues to address, Memphis also had stadium issues and a change in school Presidents coming up. The Big 12 could turn into a national Big 16 stretching across all four time zones, imho.
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RE: The Next Steps That Greg Sankey, The SEC, and ESPN Should Make
(03-25-2022 06:23 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  https://www.si.com/college/2022/03/24/mi...ams-future

Mentions Boise State. This past season, the Presidents for both Oklahoma State and Boise State met and discussed expansion in the Big 12 after the additions of Cincinnati, Houston, UCF and BYU. The Baylor radio sports show, 365 Sports or Sicem Bears, discussed that the Big 12 was ready to add more than 4 schools at the time but there were some problems that needed time. Boise State had stadium capacity issues to address, Memphis also had stadium issues and a change in school Presidents coming up. The Big 12 could turn into a national Big 16 stretching across all four time zones, imho.

I don't see Boise State grabbing the Northern California market as he postulates. I mean, I guess you could take Boise State, Fresno State, and San Diego State. Going along with BYU, you've got 4 nice programs with potential.

Grab another school in the East and you've got some geographic balance.
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