Net Rankings through yesterdays games:

77. Ohio
80. Toledo
128. Buffalo
158. Miami
168. Akron
189. Kent St.
209. Bowling Green
246. Eastern Michigan
274. Ball St.
304. Northern Illinois
338. Western Michigan
339. Central Michigan

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball...t-rankings

We're overrated.

But 1st year for new coach. Will be interesting next couple years to see if he can accomplish anything.

(01-03-2022 06:10 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  I feel I said this in another thread, but there are about 6 teams that I feel have a legitimate chance of winning the MAC this year. No team is all that great and a handful are absolutely terrible. Weakest the MAC has been in a long time.

Yes - we need to get the conference stronger and become a multiple bid league. Start by playing strong OOC teams and keeping good coaches from going to G5 schools (ie Akrons old coach).

(01-06-2022 12:53 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(01-03-2022 06:10 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  I feel I said this in another thread, but there are about 6 teams that I feel have a legitimate chance of winning the MAC this year. No team is all that great and a handful are absolutely terrible. Weakest the MAC has been in a long time.

Yes - we need to get the conference stronger and become a multiple bid league. Start by playing strong OOC teams and keeping good coaches from going to G5 schools (ie Akrons old coach).

Akron replaced Dambrot with Groce and is roughly where they were at before. Not exactly sure how you see that as an issue. The real issue is NIU, WMU, CMU, and EMU have held onto and even extended coaches that have underperformed (Hawkins, Murphy, Davis, and Montgomery). Then when they finally do decide to move on from their coach instead of going out and getting a Boals or Groce, they shop the clearance rack.

The 3-point lined killed my interest in basketball. They just pass it around the perimeter until somebody tosses up a 3-pointer. I miss the days people posted up down low and real basketball was played.

(01-06-2022 04:42 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  The 3-point lined killed my interest in basketball. They just pass it around the perimeter until somebody tosses up a 3-pointer. I miss the days people posted up down low and real basketball was played.

This and the 40 second shot clock, which needs to go away. It's hard to make comebacks in college bball when the opposing team can just eat 40 seconds of time off the clock on their possessions. Also, why do college kids need 40 seconds to get a shot off? They should use the NBA standard of 24 seconds.

(01-06-2022 04:55 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 04:42 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  The 3-point lined killed my interest in basketball. They just pass it around the perimeter until somebody tosses up a 3-pointer. I miss the days people posted up down low and real basketball was played.

This and the 40 second shot clock, which needs to go away. It's hard to make comebacks in college bball when the opposing team can just eat 40 seconds of time off the clock on their possessions. Also, why do college kids need 40 seconds to get a shot off? They should use the NBA standard of 24 seconds.

It's down to 30 seconds now, which I think is good. 24 is too short.

(01-06-2022 05:37 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 04:55 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 04:42 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  The 3-point lined killed my interest in basketball. They just pass it around the perimeter until somebody tosses up a 3-pointer. I miss the days people posted up down low and real basketball was played.

This and the 40 second shot clock, which needs to go away. It's hard to make comebacks in college bball when the opposing team can just eat 40 seconds of time off the clock on their possessions. Also, why do college kids need 40 seconds to get a shot off? They should use the NBA standard of 24 seconds.

It's down to 30 seconds now, which I think is good. 24 is too short.

Oh snap, I've only seen parts of a few college bball games and didn't pay close enough attention to notice. Did it change starting this season?

Dear kreed5120,
Your arrogance is showing. First of all, financial situations are always the concern of universities in the MAC, and whether or not a coach should be removed, plays a big part. Also, who is to say whether any coach hired to take over a team, should pass a litmus test as to being the best coach available?

(01-06-2022 01:54 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 12:53 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(01-03-2022 06:10 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  I feel I said this in another thread, but there are about 6 teams that I feel have a legitimate chance of winning the MAC this year. No team is all that great and a handful are absolutely terrible. Weakest the MAC has been in a long time.

Yes - we need to get the conference stronger and become a multiple bid league. Start by playing strong OOC teams and keeping good coaches from going to G5 schools (ie Akrons old coach).

Akron replaced Dambrot with Groce and is roughly where they were at before. Not exactly sure how you see that as an issue. The real issue is NIU, WMU, CMU, and EMU have held onto and even extended coaches that have underperformed (Hawkins, Murphy, Davis, and Montgomery). Then when they finally do decide to move on from their coach instead of going out and getting a Boals or Groce, they shop the clearance rack.

Agree with you on MAC schools holding onto underperforming coaches. Rob Murphy was just another EMU coach draining the basketball life out of Ypsilanti. However, we got it right this time with coach Heath. He will give Boals a run for his money as top coach of the MAC based on his credentials. EMU will be a good fit for Heath because he knows this area very well and should be able to land some top players in the MAC that will sustain a winning program and reinstate our 80s-90s tradition.

(01-06-2022 05:40 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 05:37 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 04:55 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 04:42 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  The 3-point lined killed my interest in basketball. They just pass it around the perimeter until somebody tosses up a 3-pointer. I miss the days people posted up down low and real basketball was played.

This and the 40 second shot clock, which needs to go away. It's hard to make comebacks in college bball when the opposing team can just eat 40 seconds of time off the clock on their possessions. Also, why do college kids need 40 seconds to get a shot off? They should use the NBA standard of 24 seconds.

It's down to 30 seconds now, which I think is good. 24 is too short.

Oh snap, I've only seen parts of a few college bball games and didn't pay close enough attention to notice. Did it change starting this season?

It's been a couple years, if not more.

(01-06-2022 07:02 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 05:40 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Oh snap, I've only seen parts of a few college bball games and didn't pay close enough attention to notice. Did it change starting this season?

It's been a couple years, if not more.

I'm way off. I don't know why I was thinking of 40 seconds. I must be getting my college sports mixed up. College football has a 40 second play clock.

"Ohio, Ohio, and Ohio." - Tim O'Shea

(01-06-2022 08:27 PM)JSF Wrote:  "Ohio, Ohio, and Ohio." - Tim O'Shea

Ohio averaging 64 ppg in 2 MAC games. As such, it’s hard to project Ohio as the MAC’s best team.

(01-07-2022 12:07 AM)Miggy Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 08:27 PM)JSF Wrote:  "Ohio, Ohio, and Ohio." - Tim O'Shea

Ohio averaging 64 ppg in 2 MAC games. As such, it’s hard to project Ohio as the MAC’s best team.

...this guy for real?

(01-06-2022 06:14 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear kreed5120,
Your arrogance is showing. First of all, financial situations are always the concern of universities in the MAC, and whether or not a coach should be removed, plays a big part. Also, who is to say whether any coach hired to take over a team, should pass a litmus test as to being the best coach available?

All these teams I named have no problem coming up with money to pay buy outs to underperforming football coaches yet will hang on and extend underperforming basketball coaches. I actually do think EMU did make a decent hire this last go around, but do you sincerely believe over the previous 10 years that EMU was committed to winning MAC basketball? Answer honestly.

(01-07-2022 09:22 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 06:14 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear kreed5120,
Your arrogance is showing. First of all, financial situations are always the concern of universities in the MAC, and whether or not a coach should be removed, plays a big part. Also, who is to say whether any coach hired to take over a team, should pass a litmus test as to being the best coach available?

All these teams I named have no problem coming up with money to pay buy outs to underperforming football coaches yet will hang on and extend underperforming basketball coaches. I actually do think EMU did make a decent hire this last go around, but do you sincerely believe over the previous 10 years that EMU was committed to winning MAC basketball? Answer honestly.

I don't remember the last time we bought out a football coach.

(01-06-2022 08:27 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 07:02 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 05:40 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Oh snap, I've only seen parts of a few college bball games and didn't pay close enough attention to notice. Did it change starting this season?

It's been a couple years, if not more.

I'm way off. I don't know why I was thinking of 40 seconds. I must be getting my college sports mixed up. College football has a 40 second play clock.

Yes, I think you're thinking of football. College basketball went from 35 seconds down to 30. I don't recall it ever being 40, but may have been long back in the day.

(01-07-2022 09:25 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2022 09:22 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 06:14 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear kreed5120,
Your arrogance is showing. First of all, financial situations are always the concern of universities in the MAC, and whether or not a coach should be removed, plays a big part. Also, who is to say whether any coach hired to take over a team, should pass a litmus test as to being the best coach available?

All these teams I named have no problem coming up with money to pay buy outs to underperforming football coaches yet will hang on and extend underperforming basketball coaches. I actually do think EMU did make a decent hire this last go around, but do you sincerely believe over the previous 10 years that EMU was committed to winning MAC basketball? Answer honestly.

I don't remember the last time we bought out a football coach.

You've had such a nice run of success that you haven't needed to.

Dear kreed5120,
The first few years of Coach Murphy's tenure were considered decent, but as time went on it was obvious he was not developing the talent he had, and was scheduling many NAIA teams just to try and get to twenty wins in a season.
Eastern does not have the funds to pay for a buyout and at the same time hire a new coach. That is why Murphy remained coach until his contract expired, or he took another job. I suppose that Eastern would fit your example of commitment, but financially it was out of the question.