(01-04-2022 08:39 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  I am still not sure if we know what Sam Houston has.

I do not think we have seen a lot of efforts on a consistent level from this ballclub yet and hopefully we'll continue to see growth throughout the conference season. Thus far, based on the skill level - I am convinced this would be a pretty darn good Southland program. Coach has been quoted as saying they beat SLC teams by 20 and 40 points in closed door scrimmages. Presuming 20 is the leader TAMU-CC and the 40 is Houston Baptist as those were the two teams they scrimmaged against.

Either way, is this a "really good" WAC team? Probably not. They have yet to prove themselves but starting 2-0 with wins over teams that they need to beat and wins they needed to get at home was a good start. This Tarleton, Abilene Christian swing will be fascinating and then they follow it up with at Lamar before hosting Stephen F Austin, New Mexico State and Grand Canyon.

Really think they will be pushed here and I would not be surprised if they were 4-4 when it's all said and done. 5-3 would be pretty good, 6-2 would be great and 7-1 or 8-0 would be astounding.

I still think they are good enough to throw some wrenches if teams aren't careful. I respect them from their SLC time; always played us very hard. I don't see SHSU as a top tourney team, but I see them growing and not to be taken lightly. Who knows, maybe Sam ends up shooting themselves in the foot after-all this season, but I think they could take a game or two beyond what they "should".

For those who don't follow the NET rankings as closely as I do, here's an update about where we all stand.

64 Abilene Christian
76 Utah Valley
84 Grand Canyon
85 New Mexico State
154 Stephen F Austin
171 California Baptist
*179 separates the top half/bottom half of all D1 teams
181 Tarleton
195 Seattle
261 Sam Houston
262 UT Rio Grande Valley
292 Dixie State
334 Chicago State
344 Lamar

Some other programs people might be interested in, WAC schools have played this season, will play in the future etc...

18 Loyola Chicago
22 Iowa State
29 BYU
41 Davidson
59 Boise
62 Washington State
65 Utah State
82 Louisiana Tech
102 UCI
116 Liberty
120 Middle Tennessee
131 Western Kentucky
159. LMU
160 UNLV
163 Southern Utah
183 New Mexico
192 TAMU CC
199 UTEP
200 Kansas City
222 Florida International
248 Bakersfield
347 Incarnate Word

(01-04-2022 09:41 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-04-2022 08:39 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  I am still not sure if we know what Sam Houston has.

I do not think we have seen a lot of efforts on a consistent level from this ballclub yet and hopefully we'll continue to see growth throughout the conference season. Thus far, based on the skill level - I am convinced this would be a pretty darn good Southland program. Coach has been quoted as saying they beat SLC teams by 20 and 40 points in closed door scrimmages. Presuming 20 is the leader TAMU-CC and the 40 is Houston Baptist as those were the two teams they scrimmaged against.

Either way, is this a "really good" WAC team? Probably not. They have yet to prove themselves but starting 2-0 with wins over teams that they need to beat and wins they needed to get at home was a good start. This Tarleton, Abilene Christian swing will be fascinating and then they follow it up with at Lamar before hosting Stephen F Austin, New Mexico State and Grand Canyon.

Really think they will be pushed here and I would not be surprised if they were 4-4 when it's all said and done. 5-3 would be pretty good, 6-2 would be great and 7-1 or 8-0 would be astounding.

I still think they are good enough to throw some wrenches if teams aren't careful. I respect them from their SLC time; always played us very hard. I don't see SHSU as a top tourney team, but I see them growing and not to be taken lightly. Who knows, maybe Sam ends up shooting themselves in the foot after-all this season, but I think they could take a game or two beyond what they "should".

Two things, Sam isn't a top tier WAC team, though they can probably beat anybody on a given night. I say this because Lamar should have defeated them as neither team led by more than five points until the final three minutes and Lamar only had eight players dressed for the game with two of their top guards out. While I think Lamar is better than their ranking shows as they have played shorthanded almost all season with multiple injuries, plus illness, I nor probably none of you think Lamar is close to the top either.

(01-05-2022 08:57 AM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  

(01-04-2022 09:41 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-04-2022 08:39 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  I am still not sure if we know what Sam Houston has.

I do not think we have seen a lot of efforts on a consistent level from this ballclub yet and hopefully we'll continue to see growth throughout the conference season. Thus far, based on the skill level - I am convinced this would be a pretty darn good Southland program. Coach has been quoted as saying they beat SLC teams by 20 and 40 points in closed door scrimmages. Presuming 20 is the leader TAMU-CC and the 40 is Houston Baptist as those were the two teams they scrimmaged against.

Either way, is this a "really good" WAC team? Probably not. They have yet to prove themselves but starting 2-0 with wins over teams that they need to beat and wins they needed to get at home was a good start. This Tarleton, Abilene Christian swing will be fascinating and then they follow it up with at Lamar before hosting Stephen F Austin, New Mexico State and Grand Canyon.

Really think they will be pushed here and I would not be surprised if they were 4-4 when it's all said and done. 5-3 would be pretty good, 6-2 would be great and 7-1 or 8-0 would be astounding.

I still think they are good enough to throw some wrenches if teams aren't careful. I respect them from their SLC time; always played us very hard. I don't see SHSU as a top tourney team, but I see them growing and not to be taken lightly. Who knows, maybe Sam ends up shooting themselves in the foot after-all this season, but I think they could take a game or two beyond what they "should".

Two things, Sam isn't a top tier WAC team, though they can probably beat anybody on a given night. I say this because Lamar should have defeated them as neither team led by more than five points until the final three minutes and Lamar only had eight players dressed for the game with two of their top guards out. While I think Lamar is better than their ranking shows as they have played shorthanded almost all season with multiple injuries, plus illness, I nor probably none of you think Lamar is close to the top either.

This is where I see COVID unfortunately having an impact on seeding and rankings at the end of the season. Obviously, there is an impact as games get rescheduled for later in the season, but there is also an impact when a team has to play shorthanded. Chicago State had to go on the road and play both NMSU and GCU shorthanded. It looks like Lamar, if they can scratch enough guys together, will have to play NMSU shorthanded as well.

It's just so unfortunate, I guess. I want to play everyone at their full strength to get a good gage of where we all are.

GO AGGIES!!!!

(01-05-2022 01:39 AM)Todor Wrote:  For those who don't follow the NET rankings as closely as I do, here's an update about where we all stand.

64 Abilene Christian
76 Utah Valley
84 Grand Canyon
85 New Mexico State
154 Stephen F Austin
171 California Baptist
*179 separates the top half/bottom half of all D1 teams
181 Tarleton
195 Seattle
261 Sam Houston
262 UT Rio Grande Valley
292 Dixie State
334 Chicago State
344 Lamar

Some other programs people might be interested in, WAC schools have played this season, will play in the future etc...

18 Loyola Chicago
22 Iowa State
29 BYU
41 Davidson
59 Boise
62 Washington State
65 Utah State
82 Louisiana Tech
102 UCI
116 Liberty
120 Middle Tennessee
131 Western Kentucky
159. LMU
160 UNLV
163 Southern Utah
183 New Mexico
192 TAMU CC
199 UTEP
200 Kansas City
222 Florida International
248 Bakersfield
347 Incarnate Word

*34 San Francisco

(01-05-2022 11:06 AM)NMSUIndyAg Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 08:57 AM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  

(01-04-2022 09:41 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-04-2022 08:39 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  I am still not sure if we know what Sam Houston has.

I do not think we have seen a lot of efforts on a consistent level from this ballclub yet and hopefully we'll continue to see growth throughout the conference season. Thus far, based on the skill level - I am convinced this would be a pretty darn good Southland program. Coach has been quoted as saying they beat SLC teams by 20 and 40 points in closed door scrimmages. Presuming 20 is the leader TAMU-CC and the 40 is Houston Baptist as those were the two teams they scrimmaged against.

Either way, is this a "really good" WAC team? Probably not. They have yet to prove themselves but starting 2-0 with wins over teams that they need to beat and wins they needed to get at home was a good start. This Tarleton, Abilene Christian swing will be fascinating and then they follow it up with at Lamar before hosting Stephen F Austin, New Mexico State and Grand Canyon.

Really think they will be pushed here and I would not be surprised if they were 4-4 when it's all said and done. 5-3 would be pretty good, 6-2 would be great and 7-1 or 8-0 would be astounding.

I still think they are good enough to throw some wrenches if teams aren't careful. I respect them from their SLC time; always played us very hard. I don't see SHSU as a top tourney team, but I see them growing and not to be taken lightly. Who knows, maybe Sam ends up shooting themselves in the foot after-all this season, but I think they could take a game or two beyond what they "should".

Two things, Sam isn't a top tier WAC team, though they can probably beat anybody on a given night. I say this because Lamar should have defeated them as neither team led by more than five points until the final three minutes and Lamar only had eight players dressed for the game with two of their top guards out. While I think Lamar is better than their ranking shows as they have played shorthanded almost all season with multiple injuries, plus illness, I nor probably none of you think Lamar is close to the top either.

This is where I see COVID unfortunately having an impact on seeding and rankings at the end of the season. Obviously, there is an impact as games get rescheduled for later in the season, but there is also an impact when a team has to play shorthanded. Chicago State had to go on the road and play both NMSU and GCU shorthanded. It looks like Lamar, if they can scratch enough guys together, will have to play NMSU shorthanded as well.

It's just so unfortunate, I guess. I want to play everyone at their full strength to get a good gage of where we all are.

GO AGGIES!!!!

This is the sad reality we are living in now. It looks like the Lamar vs NMSU game for Thursday is the latest casualty.

(01-05-2022 07:58 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

According to an email I received from Lamar they only have seven players available. There wasn't any suggestion why a reschedule wasn't possible.

(01-05-2022 09:11 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 07:58 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

According to an email I received from Lamar they only have seven players available. There wasn't any suggestion why a reschedule wasn't possible.

To compound the situation, one of the seven players has a non-COVID illness, and can't play.

(01-05-2022 07:58 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Playing the game would only hurt our NET.

Lamar just needs to cancel the rest of their season.

Looks like SFA vs. ACU is postponed

Will the Lumberjacks ever play again? Tune in :)

(01-06-2022 08:12 AM)SFAXE93 Wrote:  Looks like SFA vs. ACU is postponed

Will the Lumberjacks ever play again? Tune in :)

That’s incorrect. They mens game is not postponed.

Thank goodness! ESPN was mistaken, they sure have gotten postponed crazy with these games.

The good news I see for Lamar is that probably by next week at the latest their Covid problems for this year may be over. It would seem that if virtually everyone has gone through the protocols, with most probably having tested positive they should be clear for the rest of the season

(01-06-2022 09:27 AM)WestTexas409 Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 08:12 AM)SFAXE93 Wrote:  Looks like SFA vs. ACU is postponed

Will the Lumberjacks ever play again? Tune in :)

That’s incorrect. They mens game is not postponed.

Thank god, I’m going through basketball withdrawals and was looking forward to watching this one tonight.

(01-05-2022 10:19 PM)LUSportsFan Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 09:11 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 07:58 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

According to an email I received from Lamar they only have seven players available. There wasn't any suggestion why a reschedule wasn't possible.

To compound the situation, one of the seven players has a non-COVID illness, and can't play.

This is what the AD (Moccia) at NMSU eluded to in the coaches show last night. They had 7 players eligible to play, but one of them had a non-covid related issue and was not able to play, which makes it a forfeit (unfortunately).

GO AGGIES!!!

Lumberjacks kicking Wildcat A** right now. I knew that SFA would spend it's time making every preparation it could for tonight and they did. Unless ACU makes the correct adjustments, this is going to be a bad night.

ACU gets the game back within 12 points at the half with our first 3 ptr of the game, but SFA has just dominated every aspect of this game so far.

(01-06-2022 08:36 PM)Outsider Wrote:  Lumberjacks kicking Wildcat A** right now. I knew that SFA would spend it's time making every preparation it could for tonight and they did. Unless ACU makes the correct adjustments, this is going to be a bad night.

The Jacks usually don’t shoot this well from 3.