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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
(01-05-2022 08:25 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  
(01-05-2022 08:13 PM)shampoo Wrote:  I called it a while ago. Coach was going to wind up pulling the redshirt on Nunez. I just wish it happened sooner so he could have had at least a little experience prior to conference play.

Wow, you are really bragging about being right? Because of 2 players being in COVID protocols.. Just Wow.. what D@ck move, but you do you

My biggest wish now is Oliver plays in 3 more games, we clear protocols and slap it back on him. I would LOVE that so much.. COGSCOGS
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
Rod, take your meds. Yes, COVID protocols, and the loss of your starting 5, a senior. That’s the kind of season it is, and we’re already suffering the early casualties and losses.
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
(01-05-2022 09:00 PM)shampoo Wrote:  Rod, take your meds. Yes, COVID protocols, and the loss of your starting 5, a senior. That’s the kind of season it is, and we’re already suffering the early casualties and losses.
Fan would probably ban me for the first response thst came to mind and now I can't really settle for a watered down reply. Hopefully Oliver hires you soon so this can get fixed, I mean you have all the answers.

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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
(01-05-2022 09:14 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  
(01-05-2022 09:00 PM)shampoo Wrote:  Rod, take your meds. Yes, COVID protocols, and the loss of your starting 5, a senior. That’s the kind of season it is, and we’re already suffering the early casualties and losses.
Fan would probably ban me for the first response thst came to mind and now I can't really settle for a watered down reply. Hopefully Oliver hires you soon so this can get fixed, I mean you have all the answers.

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I do still have my fingers crossed that Oliver doesn't burn it, stays at 4 games or under.
I would be laughing my butt off in anticipation of reading your rant about. I can just imagine the spittle flying as you post about it, and thinking about how I could bait even bigger meltdown out you. 01-lauramac201-lauramac2

Realistically this will not be the only time the program gets hit so probably won't be possible.
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
(01-05-2022 09:00 PM)shampoo Wrote:  Rod, take your meds.

Yes, Rod, please. Not that you'll see this since you (supposedly) don't read my posts. But your snark level is in orbit. You could almost give Debbie Downer a run for her money.
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
Anybody that thinks Nunez is ready didn't watch the game. He is nowhere near D1 basketball shape. He was gassed after 4 minutes, boxed no one out a single time. He got credit for a rebound that somehow he tipped in over two VMI players. In 8 minutes, with both teams putting up quick shots, he was credited with 1 rebound. 3 times VMI guards drove right by him and made layups. He's not ready and the only reason he played tonight, Oliver was forced into it using him because two players were in Covid protocols. I'm not saying he won't be a good player, but he's got to improve every aspect of his game and get in shape.

Bucs played very hard tonight and even though they were very shorthanded, beat VMI at their own game. They made more 3s and outrebounded them. Gut check win.

Great job by the coaching staff and the players.

Go Bucs
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
(01-05-2022 10:53 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  Anybody that thinks Nunez is ready didn't watch the game. He is nowhere near D1 basketball shape. He was gassed after 4 minutes, boxed no one out a single time. He got credit for a rebound that somehow he tipped in over two VMI players. In 8 minutes, with both teams putting up quick shots, he was credited with 1 rebound. 3 times VMI guards drove right by him and made layups. He's not ready and the only reason he played tonight, Oliver was forced into it using him because two players were in Covid protocols. I'm not saying he won't be a good player, but he's got to improve every aspect of his game and get in shape.



Great job by the coaching staff and the players.

Go Bucs

Heretric!!! Burn the unbeliever, 01-lauramac201-lauramac205-mafia05-mafia03-hissyfit03-hissyfit
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
Bump
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
(01-29-2022 05:44 PM)BucDoctor Wrote:  Bump

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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
Set your expectations low.

Go back and lower them some more.

Stay healthy, Stay competitive, (they have been in most games)
Hope Oliver doesn't lose the team because of the losses.

Maybe figure out to close out a game, win a couple.

See if Oliver figures out how to do what he says needs to be done
to correct the problems, He correctly identified most of them, has stated many times
what they are and they need to be fixed. Okay.. Show some progress towards
that?

Was going to say look forward to next year but that is going to be an
even bigger question mark than this year. We are going to be really
young, really lacking in experience next year.

See who leaves, see if we can get the parts to fix the glaring hole in the middle.
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
Back to the question AND the answer:

“We’re just going to keep grinding,” said ETSU coach Desmond Oliver, whose team was beginning a three-game road trip. “My guys are going to keep getting better and I want to keep improving and get better as a coach. I’m going to keep believing in them.”
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
You all will be pleased and delighted to know that Coach Oliver called me today, and wanted me to relay his deep thanks and appreciation for all the helpful suggestions and ideas. He further said that he plans on using all of them, or as many as he can, in future games. Maybe about 2 minutes for each idea. He wants to tease out the very best ideas for inclusion in his schemes going forward. The main problem, he said, was that there were SOO many great ideas, that he might have a hard time fitting them all in for the next game, so it may take a while. So he made it clear that each of us should be patient while we wait on our own special suggestion(s) to be implemented. I asked him if there was any plan for some of us to join him on the bench for parts of games, and he hesitated on that. Said he'd have to "study" that and "talk to legal" about it. He also wanted to know if any of us still had any eligibility left - and looked forward to reading more of our awesome suggestions. He was very upbeat and looking forward to implementing all these things in practices. He feels like he's now *finally* found a pathway that will lead us to the promised land. 03-2thumbsup
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
Morris Buttermaker found a way.
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(02-03-2022 08:29 PM)squeak Wrote:  Morris Buttermaker found a way.
Nicely played. Wish there was a way to give a thumbs up on posts.
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
Any of you believe in using the remainder of a season to evaluate returning players? This would mean giving some bench players some more minutes to see how they do in a real game environment - and not in garbage time and not killing any redshirts. And I'm not talking double digit minutes, but maybe 5 minutes, or a couple minutes more than they've been seeing.

Major League teams out of playoff contention use September to get prospects some at bats or innings. In that situation, there is NO chance for playoffs. In college basketball, you're still playing for seeding in the conference tournament and bettering your chances for the tournament championship.

Personally, I think we should try to win every game and players should earn their minutes in practice. Just curious of your thoughts.
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
I'm in favor of playing our future players. I'm not sure the Bucs would represent the best of this year's SoCon if they somehow made the tournament. If that miracle did occur, they'd most likely be bracketed for a play-in game.
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
(01-05-2022 09:00 PM)shampoo Wrote:  Rod, take your meds. Yes, COVID protocols, and the loss of your starting 5, a senior. That’s the kind of season it is, and we’re already suffering the early casualties and losses.
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RE: So what's the solution going forward?
No way. Coaches evaluate the players everyday in practice.

It would be quiting on the team, fans and the University.

Bucs have enough talent, if they would just do what they are coached to do, they could get to the finals. With all the sloppy play Bucshave been a tough out in every conference game but one, Chatt. No one wants to play them in first round. They lost last 4 games by a total of 11 points. Just cutting down on dumb fouls, taking care of the ball, play decent D or shooting their year long free throw average, Bucs would have won all four.

You don't quit trying to win.Thats a total disservice and sends a defeatist message in all aspects. I sure wouldn't play for any school or coaching staff that deliberately made no attempt to do their best to win. That's a poison pill for the program
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(02-04-2022 08:49 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  
(01-05-2022 09:00 PM)shampoo Wrote:  Rod, take your meds. Yes, COVID protocols, and the loss of your starting 5, a senior. That’s the kind of season it is, and we’re already suffering the early casualties and losses.

and this was bumped why? Speak up
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(02-04-2022 06:35 AM)frankenheimer Wrote:  Any of you believe in using the remainder of a season to evaluate returning players? This would mean giving some bench players some more minutes to see how they do in a real game environment - and not in garbage time and not killing any redshirts. And I'm not talking double digit minutes, but maybe 5 minutes, or a couple minutes more than they've been seeing.

How would that even work? You mean pull the other 3 redshirt and waste them for 2-5 minutes?
We don't really have a bench to give more minutes.
Yasser's minutes seem to be increasing.
Weber and Charles have been getting buried,
Which has led to Nunez getting time (so sorta what you are talking about)
But I haven't seen anything that makes me wish we had had him all season but have seen
plenty to understand why he was redshirted in the first place.
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