Just hate it not just for the team but the other students. My nephew plays in ECU's band. They got the news while they were driving to Annapolis and literally turned the bus around to come back to Greenville. He will now only have one more shot to go to a bowl as an undergrad. Hopefully the new FDA pills will stop this insanity and let people to get back to the old normal.

When are we going to get past the ridiculously stupid narrative that these cancellations have anything to do with politics? If too many players on a team test positive for Covid, it can’t play. It’s as simple as that.

(12-26-2021 03:06 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 12:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 11:30 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Is ECU going to claim the trophy?

I thought forfeited games were counted 2-0?

it's a joke from their twitter...

(12-26-2021 07:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 03:06 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 12:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 11:30 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Is ECU going to claim the trophy?

I thought forfeited games were counted 2-0?

it's a joke from their twitter...

Ah… got it

(12-26-2021 07:18 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  When are we going to get past the ridiculously stupid narrative that these cancellations have anything to do with politics? If too many players on a team test positive for Covid, it can’t play. It’s as simple as that.

I thought vaccinations equaled no testing

(12-26-2021 07:11 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Just hate it not just for the team but the other students. My nephew plays in ECU's band. They got the news while they were driving to Annapolis and literally turned the bus around to come back to Greenville. He will now only have one more shot to go to a bowl as an undergrad. Hopefully the new FDA pills will stop this insanity and let people to get back to the old normal.

Your nephew could march in a bowl in El Paso if his school wants to take on a P5 school on CBS

(12-26-2021 07:18 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  When are we going to get past the ridiculously stupid narrative that these cancellations have anything to do with politics? If too many players on a team test positive for Covid, it can’t play. It’s as simple as that.

I agree, and I am amused that when a cancelation occurs and one school is singled out as the cause (e.g., UVA in the Fenway Bowl) there is an outpouring of condolences only for the fans and players of the non-infected team.

Heck, if anything, the virus-infected team should get more condolences. They did everything the unaffected team did - practiced for the game, had fans make plans to attend the game, etc. but not only do they not get to play or attend the game, they have to deal with the virus as well.

It's a head-scratcher, IMO.

(12-26-2021 07:26 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 07:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 03:06 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 12:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 11:30 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Is ECU going to claim the trophy?

I thought forfeited games were counted 2-0?

it's a joke from their twitter...

Ah… got it

It would have been better if he had drop-kicked it (which is legal). That's a lost art.

(12-27-2021 10:43 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 07:26 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 07:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 03:06 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 12:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

I thought forfeited games were counted 2-0?

it's a joke from their twitter...

Ah… got it

It would have been better if he had drop-kicked it (which is legal). That's a lost art.

...but for the geek in me, and for the sake of argument, here goes...

I always thought a forfeited game is scored as 1-0 to the non-forfeiting team ...since you can't score a single point (South of the Canadian border), it defines the match as forfeited (You COULD have an actual score of 2-0 in a played contest (remember the 3-2 debacle between Auburn and Miss. St. awhile back as a close call, for example...)).

Maybe it's changed over time, but... just wondering, as it's unfortunately a much more frequent occurrence as of late - and it's interesting that the games that have been called off the last few seasons haven't been 'defaulted' as a 1-0 victory for the 'non-affected' team... guess that would be bad form, given the circumstances...

(12-27-2021 10:56 AM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 10:43 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 07:26 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 07:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 03:06 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I thought forfeited games were counted 2-0?

it's a joke from their twitter...

Ah… got it

It would have been better if he had drop-kicked it (which is legal). That's a lost art.

...but for the geek in me, and for the sake of argument, here goes...

I always thought a forfeited game is scored as 1-0 to the non-forfeiting team ...since you can't score a single point (South of the Canadian border), it defines the match as forfeited (You COULD have an actual score of 2-0 in a played contest (remember the 3-2 debacle between Auburn and Miss. St. awhile back as a close call, for example...)).

Maybe it's changed over time, but... just wondering, as it's unfortunately a much more frequent occurrence as of late - and it's interesting that the games that have been called off the last few seasons haven't been 'defaulted' as a 1-0 victory for the 'non-affected' team... guess that would be bad form, given the circumstances...

IIRC, in the NFL, a forfeit score is 2-0. For NCAA football, it is 1-0, unless the forfeit occurred mid-game, and the team that forfeited is losing, in which case the final score is the score at the time the forfeit occurred.

(12-26-2021 06:50 PM)jhn31 Wrote:  ...we shouldn't bring politics into an issue that has nothing to do with it.

One could argue that politicizing the pandemic is the main reason it's still going on. If everyone pulled together it could've been eradicated by now. We humans are our own worst enemies...

2 Tim 3:1,3 "in the last days, critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be... not open to any agreement"

(12-26-2021 04:35 PM)jhn31 Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 12:34 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  There will be more cancelations form democratic states. Nothing to see here. Move along. That is all.

3 of the 4 bowls canceled so far come from states with Republican governors, but don't get facts get in the way of your narrative.

Stop testing kids who are not sick, and the games go on. The ludicrous actions, paranoid beyond belief, are the problem.

(12-27-2021 12:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 06:50 PM)jhn31 Wrote:  ...we shouldn't bring politics into an issue that has nothing to do with it.

One could argue that politicizing the pandemic is the main reason it's still going on. If everyone pulled together it could've been eradicated by now. We humans are our own worst enemies...

2 Tim 3:1,3 "in the last days, critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be... not open to any agreement"

Actually, had we just used the therapeutics we had in 2020 it would be over. But DC, the CDC and NIH decided to stop doctor from treating patients, all due to the main focus being on vaccines, which now we know, don't work all that well to stop transmission.

(12-27-2021 12:54 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  Actually, had we just used the therapeutics we had in 2020 it would be over.

What therapeutics are you referring to? If you're claiming that ingesting disinfectants or UV lights do the trick, let's not go down that road.

I and two other members of the ECU sports media outlet I shoot games for were an hour and a half out from our hotel Sunday when the texts and calls start blowing up the site owners phone about a cancellation going down to the point, we had to pull off the road so he could confirm everything before we got there.

This would have been my first bowl game in person since the '99 Mobile Bowl vs. TCU and my first one in a photographer capacity--in prior years my job/work scheduling and timing never lined up. I was so disappointed in not being able to cover it--granted I had been to Navy already to cover the ECU @ Navy game a month ago so its not like I hadn't been to the stadium.

BC's covid story seems kind of dubious if I am keeping it real. And based on a Zoom presser via the ECU side I watched on youtube it seemed like convo had been struck earlier that both teams might have had around 4-5 covid issues, on the low BC had some opt outs and injured players too, but as of Sunday night everything was looking good to go then apparently Monday morning around 10am they magically had 30+... and bailed. I can't confirm anything outside of what BC/Military Bowl said in their statement but sure does come across that BC played the covid cancellation card when they had a lot of their best players opt out and they also cancelled their bowl last year on covid concerns...

And if I get my tinfoil hat I might can tune in a conspiracy against the AAC because in the year that we get 3 teams picked up by the B12 (aka P5), we also get a CFP birth, and then somehow A P5 conference (ACC) cancels two bowls involving the AAC on the same day... ...Just sayin....

Quote:If we're going to argue about this, which I don't think we should, the key would be the states where the teams that are bailing came from.

It's not about the state that it's in. That'd be just conspiracy theory fishing. It's the team itself too wrought with COVID. Boise quit (Red), CMU didn't quit (Blue Leaning), and Arizona (Red Leaning) didn't quit anything. Has nothing to do with Red vs Blue political colors of the state that the bowl is in - lol.

It's the team choosing to bow out due to too many COVID cases on the team.

(12-27-2021 08:24 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  I and two other members of the ECU sports media outlet I shoot games for were an hour and a half out from our hotel Sunday when the texts and calls start blowing up the site owners phone about a cancellation going down to the point, we had to pull off the road so he could confirm everything before we got there.

This would have been my first bowl game in person since the '99 Mobile Bowl vs. TCU and my first one in a photographer capacity--in prior years my job/work scheduling and timing never lined up. I was so disappointed in not being able to cover it--granted I had been to Navy already to cover the ECU @ Navy game a month ago so its not like I hadn't been to the stadium.

(snip)

I feel bad for you. Even having been to Navy for a game, the Navy stadium is a great place for a bowl game and the Military Bowl is always lots of fun (I've been to four of them).

Hopefully next year things will be back to normal.