(01-05-2022 06:23 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 03:45 PM)SammyH Wrote:  Losers of Conf. Realignment: SHSU fans and students, a majority of who voted down/are against the FBS move, and are being charged an extra $40 in athletic fees regardless to fund an FBS move despite it not passing in student votes and being unpopular with alumni.

Trying to determine if you are serious or not…

Oh yeah, it’s just a ******* joke. I’m just ******* kidding, obviously. Moving up to the “Conference USA” is an opportunity I could only dream of. Man, I was starting to get concerned that I’d never get to see my beloved school participate in such world-recognized sporting events such as the “RoofClaim.com Bowl”, the “TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl” or the “Jimmy Kimmel Bowl” in my lifetime. I can picture it now! The quarter full stadiums, the ESPNNews (or U, or Deportes) broadcasts. I cannot wait. I cried tears of joy when I heard we were reuniting with such storied rivals like International Florida, Middle Tennessee and New Mexico State. Such football powers that will surly suck bad enough to make us loo—I mean help us elevate our program.

(01-07-2022 12:32 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 06:23 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 03:45 PM)SammyH Wrote:  Losers of Conf. Realignment: SHSU fans and students, a majority of who voted down/are against the FBS move, and are being charged an extra $40 in athletic fees regardless to fund an FBS move despite it not passing in student votes and being unpopular with alumni.

Trying to determine if you are serious or not…

Oh yeah, it’s just a ******* joke. I’m just ******* kidding, obviously. Moving up to the “Conference USA” is an opportunity I could only dream of. Man, I was starting to get concerned that I’d never get to see my beloved school participate in such world-recognized sporting events such as the “RoofClaim.com Bowl”, the “TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl” or the “Jimmy Kimmel Bowl” in my lifetime. I can picture it now! The quarter full stadiums, the ESPNNews (or U, or Deportes) broadcasts. I cannot wait. I cried tears of joy when I heard we were reuniting with such storied rivals like International Florida, Middle Tennessee and New Mexico State. Such football powers that will surly suck bad enough to make us loo—I mean help us elevate our program.

It's certainly been great getting your thoughts on the matter. Thanks for coming over to the CUSA message board to tell us all how sad you are about your school joining CUSA.

Please do continue. It's really enjoyable.

(01-07-2022 12:32 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 06:23 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 03:45 PM)SammyH Wrote:  Losers of Conf. Realignment: SHSU fans and students, a majority of who voted down/are against the FBS move, and are being charged an extra $40 in athletic fees regardless to fund an FBS move despite it not passing in student votes and being unpopular with alumni.

Trying to determine if you are serious or not…

Oh yeah, it’s just a ******* joke. I’m just ******* kidding, obviously. Moving up to the “Conference USA” is an opportunity I could only dream of. Man, I was starting to get concerned that I’d never get to see my beloved school participate in such world-recognized sporting events such as the “RoofClaim.com Bowl”, the “TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl” or the “Jimmy Kimmel Bowl” in my lifetime. I can picture it now! The quarter full stadiums, the ESPNNews (or U, or Deportes) broadcasts. I cannot wait. I cried tears of joy when I heard we were reuniting with such storied rivals like International Florida, Middle Tennessee and New Mexico State. Such football powers that will surly suck bad enough to make us loo—I mean help us elevate our program.

I feel like he talk smack with the best of them and at least he's being honest.

(01-07-2022 12:32 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 06:23 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 03:45 PM)SammyH Wrote:  Losers of Conf. Realignment: SHSU fans and students, a majority of who voted down/are against the FBS move, and are being charged an extra $40 in athletic fees regardless to fund an FBS move despite it not passing in student votes and being unpopular with alumni.

Trying to determine if you are serious or not…

Oh yeah, it’s just a ******* joke. I’m just ******* kidding, obviously. Moving up to the “Conference USA” is an opportunity I could only dream of. Man, I was starting to get concerned that I’d never get to see my beloved school participate in such world-recognized sporting events such as the “RoofClaim.com Bowl”, the “TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl” or the “Jimmy Kimmel Bowl” in my lifetime. I can picture it now! The quarter full stadiums, the ESPNNews (or U, or Deportes) broadcasts. I cannot wait. I cried tears of joy when I heard we were reuniting with such storied rivals like International Florida, Middle Tennessee and New Mexico State. Such football powers that will surly suck bad enough to make us loo—I mean help us elevate our program.

The good thing is your players will actually get to play in a quarter full stadium unlike what they are used to. I hope they can hear the signals. .....can't believe you CUSA fans let him get away with that....

Actually. until Sam Houston comes over here most of us are gonna treat SammyH like a gnat. He's only buzzing around and we've got far more important and much bigger bugs to smush at the current CUSA Picnic. Now when he actually gets big enough to take a bite out of anything bigger than one of his fellow gnats; we will pull out the spray and maybe a Flyswatter to put him back in his place.

(01-07-2022 12:32 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 06:23 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 03:45 PM)SammyH Wrote:  Losers of Conf. Realignment: SHSU fans and students, a majority of who voted down/are against the FBS move, and are being charged an extra $40 in athletic fees regardless to fund an FBS move despite it not passing in student votes and being unpopular with alumni.

Trying to determine if you are serious or not…

Oh yeah, it’s just a ******* joke. I’m just ******* kidding, obviously. Moving up to the “Conference USA” is an opportunity I could only dream of. Man, I was starting to get concerned that I’d never get to see my beloved school participate in such world-recognized sporting events such as the “RoofClaim.com Bowl”, the “TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl” or the “Jimmy Kimmel Bowl” in my lifetime. I can picture it now! The quarter full stadiums, the ESPNNews (or U, or Deportes) broadcasts. I cannot wait. I cried tears of joy when I heard we were reuniting with such storied rivals like International Florida, Middle Tennessee and New Mexico State. Such football powers that will surly suck bad enough to make us loo—I mean help us elevate our program.

So the quarter of a 30-40K seat stadium would be 7.5 (right around SHSU avg in their 12.5K stadium) or 10K which is more than SHSU has ever averaged in a year.

And you would rather wrestle around in the mud with Abilene Christian, Dixie State, Lamar, Stephen F. Austin and Tarleton State. Three of these schools I didn't know existed 10 years ago. The only reason I learned Abilene TX had a university is because of Mitchell Gale, the nephew of Marshall employee Mark Gale signed to play at Abilene Christian in 2011. Rather than play with IA schools.

Ive said it before but I'll say it again. I think Sam Houston fails at IA mainly because they don't have a strong enough support structure or fan base.

(01-07-2022 10:13 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(01-07-2022 12:32 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 06:23 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 03:45 PM)SammyH Wrote:  Losers of Conf. Realignment: SHSU fans and students, a majority of who voted down/are against the FBS move, and are being charged an extra $40 in athletic fees regardless to fund an FBS move despite it not passing in student votes and being unpopular with alumni.

Trying to determine if you are serious or not…

Oh yeah, it’s just a ******* joke. I’m just ******* kidding, obviously. Moving up to the “Conference USA” is an opportunity I could only dream of. Man, I was starting to get concerned that I’d never get to see my beloved school participate in such world-recognized sporting events such as the “RoofClaim.com Bowl”, the “TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl” or the “Jimmy Kimmel Bowl” in my lifetime. I can picture it now! The quarter full stadiums, the ESPNNews (or U, or Deportes) broadcasts. I cannot wait. I cried tears of joy when I heard we were reuniting with such storied rivals like International Florida, Middle Tennessee and New Mexico State. Such football powers that will surly suck bad enough to make us loo—I mean help us elevate our program.

So the quarter of a 30-40K seat stadium would be 7.5 (right around SHSU avg in their 12.5K stadium) or 10K which is more than SHSU has ever averaged in a year.

And you would rather wrestle around in the mud with Abilene Christian, Dixie State, Lamar, Stephen F. Austin and Tarleton State. Three of these schools I didn't know existed 10 years ago. The only reason I learned Abilene TX had a university is because of Mitchell Gale, the nephew of Marshall employee Mark Gale signed to play at Abilene Christian in 2011. Rather than play with IA schools.

Ive said it before but I'll say it again. I think Sam Houston fails at IA mainly because they don't have a strong enough support structure or fan base.

Why dont you head over to the SBC board and talk with people who believe your mae believe?

(01-07-2022 09:28 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Actually. until Sam Houston comes over here most of us are gonna treat SammyH like a gnat. He's only buzzing around and we've got far more important and much bigger bugs to smush at the current CUSA Picnic. Now when he actually gets big enough to take a bite out of anything bigger than one of his fellow gnats; we will pull out the spray and maybe a Flyswatter to put him back in his place.

(01-07-2022 09:28 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Actually. until Sam Houston comes over here most of us are gonna treat SammyH like a gnat. He's only buzzing around and we've got far more important and much bigger bugs to smush at the current CUSA Picnic. Now when he actually gets big enough to take a bite out of anything bigger than one of his fellow gnats; we will pull out the spray and maybe a Flyswatter to put him back in his place.

That's pretty much what happened when he invaded the WAC board with all of the same buzzing.

But he has a point. Its a school that has little support for athletics. Do they need to move even higher? At some point you have to wonder why you're playing if no one cares. Not that any of of the WAC, and now CUSA fans, care to hear it over and over and over.

Attendance at their last 3 home games in hoops-- Rio Grande Valley and Lamar conferences games drew 131 and 214. Before that they played Hardin Simmons and had 197.

(01-07-2022 11:43 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(01-07-2022 09:28 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Actually. until Sam Houston comes over here most of us are gonna treat SammyH like a gnat. He's only buzzing around and we've got far more important and much bigger bugs to smush at the current CUSA Picnic. Now when he actually gets big enough to take a bite out of anything bigger than one of his fellow gnats; we will pull out the spray and maybe a Flyswatter to put him back in his place.

That's pretty much what happened when he invaded the WAC board with all of the same buzzing.

But he has a point. Its a school that has little support for athletics. Do they need to move even higher? At some point you have to wonder why you're playing if no one cares. Not that any of of the WAC, and now CUSA fans, care to hear it over and over and over.

Attendance at their last 3 home games in hoops-- Rio Grande Valley and Lamar conferences games drew 131 and 214. Before that they played Hardin Simmons and had 197.

Could they become another Idaho casualty. I mean, I hope they do well, but their situation sounds very similar to Idaho's

(01-07-2022 12:32 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 06:23 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 03:45 PM)SammyH Wrote:  Losers of Conf. Realignment: SHSU fans and students, a majority of who voted down/are against the FBS move, and are being charged an extra $40 in athletic fees regardless to fund an FBS move despite it not passing in student votes and being unpopular with alumni.

Trying to determine if you are serious or not…

Oh yeah, it’s just a ******* joke. I’m just ******* kidding, obviously. Moving up to the “Conference USA” is an opportunity I could only dream of. Man, I was starting to get concerned that I’d never get to see my beloved school participate in such world-recognized sporting events such as the “RoofClaim.com Bowl”, the “TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl” or the “Jimmy Kimmel Bowl” in my lifetime. I can picture it now! The quarter full stadiums, the ESPNNews (or U, or Deportes) broadcasts. I cannot wait. I cried tears of joy when I heard we were reuniting with such storied rivals like International Florida, Middle Tennessee and New Mexico State. Such football powers that will surly suck bad enough to make us loo—I mean help us elevate our program.

I cannot argue with a single thing you said. You see things for what they are. Kudos to you. I’m sorry your school is not following the wishes of their own fans. Seems a little whack.

(01-08-2022 06:43 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-07-2022 11:43 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(01-07-2022 09:28 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Actually. until Sam Houston comes over here most of us are gonna treat SammyH like a gnat. He's only buzzing around and we've got far more important and much bigger bugs to smush at the current CUSA Picnic. Now when he actually gets big enough to take a bite out of anything bigger than one of his fellow gnats; we will pull out the spray and maybe a Flyswatter to put him back in his place.

That's pretty much what happened when he invaded the WAC board with all of the same buzzing.

But he has a point. Its a school that has little support for athletics. Do they need to move even higher? At some point you have to wonder why you're playing if no one cares. Not that any of of the WAC, and now CUSA fans, care to hear it over and over and over.

Attendance at their last 3 home games in hoops-- Rio Grande Valley and Lamar conferences games drew 131 and 214. Before that they played Hardin Simmons and had 197.

Could they become another Idaho casualty. I mean, I hope they do well, but their situation sounds very similar to Idaho's

I’m hopeful we find ourselves in a similar situation to Idaho within a few years. I think there’s a decent chance it happens.. I’m not going to actively root for us to fail in the FBS, but this move was ill advised and our AD needs to know. We’re an FCS school with an FCS fanbase and FCS level facilities. I’m not sure why our usually complacent AD is so “forward thinking” right now, but our students voted down fees meant to fund an FBS move (the school tacked on the fees, regardless) and the alumni reaction was negative. Maybe they’ll soon realize it was a mistake joining a bunch of other over ambitious FCS schools in this pathetic league. No offense, but that’s what this is.

(01-07-2022 10:13 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(01-07-2022 12:32 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 06:23 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 03:45 PM)SammyH Wrote:  Losers of Conf. Realignment: SHSU fans and students, a majority of who voted down/are against the FBS move, and are being charged an extra $40 in athletic fees regardless to fund an FBS move despite it not passing in student votes and being unpopular with alumni.

Trying to determine if you are serious or not…

Oh yeah, it’s just a ******* joke. I’m just ******* kidding, obviously. Moving up to the “Conference USA” is an opportunity I could only dream of. Man, I was starting to get concerned that I’d never get to see my beloved school participate in such world-recognized sporting events such as the “RoofClaim.com Bowl”, the “TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl” or the “Jimmy Kimmel Bowl” in my lifetime. I can picture it now! The quarter full stadiums, the ESPNNews (or U, or Deportes) broadcasts. I cannot wait. I cried tears of joy when I heard we were reuniting with such storied rivals like International Florida, Middle Tennessee and New Mexico State. Such football powers that will surly suck bad enough to make us loo—I mean help us elevate our program.

So the quarter of a 30-40K seat stadium would be 7.5 (right around SHSU avg in their 12.5K stadium) or 10K which is more than SHSU has ever averaged in a year.

And you would rather wrestle around in the mud with Abilene Christian, Dixie State, Lamar, Stephen F. Austin and Tarleton State. Three of these schools I didn't know existed 10 years ago. The only reason I learned Abilene TX had a university is because of Mitchell Gale, the nephew of Marshall employee Mark Gale signed to play at Abilene Christian in 2011. Rather than play with IA schools.

Ive said it before but I'll say it again. I think Sam Houston fails at IA mainly because they don't have a strong enough support structure or fan base.

You act as if CUSA is some massive upgrade over these schools. The only thing that really changes is the meaningless abbreviation in front of our name and the number of scholarships awarded. You think our attendance sucks now, what the hell do you think it’ll be when we’re NOT playing in state rivals and schools nearby? Just wait til you see what the crowds look like when we’re playing “New Mexico State” and others nobody has ever heard of.

(01-08-2022 05:14 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(01-07-2022 10:13 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(01-07-2022 12:32 PM)SammyH Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 06:23 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(01-05-2022 03:45 PM)SammyH Wrote:  Losers of Conf. Realignment: SHSU fans and students, a majority of who voted down/are against the FBS move, and are being charged an extra $40 in athletic fees regardless to fund an FBS move despite it not passing in student votes and being unpopular with alumni.

Trying to determine if you are serious or not…

Oh yeah, it’s just a ******* joke. I’m just ******* kidding, obviously. Moving up to the “Conference USA” is an opportunity I could only dream of. Man, I was starting to get concerned that I’d never get to see my beloved school participate in such world-recognized sporting events such as the “RoofClaim.com Bowl”, the “TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl” or the “Jimmy Kimmel Bowl” in my lifetime. I can picture it now! The quarter full stadiums, the ESPNNews (or U, or Deportes) broadcasts. I cannot wait. I cried tears of joy when I heard we were reuniting with such storied rivals like International Florida, Middle Tennessee and New Mexico State. Such football powers that will surly suck bad enough to make us loo—I mean help us elevate our program.

So the quarter of a 30-40K seat stadium would be 7.5 (right around SHSU avg in their 12.5K stadium) or 10K which is more than SHSU has ever averaged in a year.

And you would rather wrestle around in the mud with Abilene Christian, Dixie State, Lamar, Stephen F. Austin and Tarleton State. Three of these schools I didn't know existed 10 years ago. The only reason I learned Abilene TX had a university is because of Mitchell Gale, the nephew of Marshall employee Mark Gale signed to play at Abilene Christian in 2011. Rather than play with IA schools.

Ive said it before but I'll say it again. I think Sam Houston fails at IA mainly because they don't have a strong enough support structure or fan base.

You act as if CUSA is some massive upgrade over these schools. The only thing that really changes is the meaningless abbreviation in front of our name and the number of scholarships awarded. You think our attendance sucks now, what the hell do you think it’ll be when we’re NOT playing in state rivals and schools nearby? Just wait til you see what the crowds look like when we’re playing “New Mexico State” and others nobody has ever heard of.

And RGV is waay down at the tip of Texas, so that's why only 131 fans showed up, as opposed to the much closer Lamar when 214 packed in.

What I'm hearing is the fans in your small town don't know of any schools that are over an hour away, don't care to learn about any other part of the country or their schools, don't care if you're any good at your sports as long as you put up a good showing against 1 or 2 particular schools, the money isn't there now, let alone at a higher level, and you are being pushed there by your administration.

Have you considered the NAIA? You already have an average NAIA stadium, and your basketball attendance will get to the NAIA level if you put some focus on building interest.

Who thinks this school will back out of going FBS when the time comes n to actually start paying the bills and conference entry fees? I do.

They've been in 3 conferences in 3 years and I don't see any sign that anyone there has a clue what they are doing.

In fact, I have to say, that Sam Houston has one of the ODDEST pages that tells about the school I've ever seen. And I look at a lot of schools' information.

At first glance, it looks your run of mill fact page where you give little tidbits to make your school look good/attractive to potential students.

Then you see these "highlights" about their students and institution...

*About 60% are classified as “At Risk” (At risk of what? And why highlight it?)

*63.6% two-year graduation rate. (Is this a Juco? What is a Doctoral granting institution doing bragging about a 2 year graduation rate. No mention of a 4 year graduation rate.)

*3rd to bottom in per student funding (Why are they pointing these 2 items out???)
*33% below average state funding per student

ELITE Program began 2010
Recruits minority males
212 students
*33% 4-year graduation rates. (So 2/3 don't graduate on time/at all...ummm, ok)

https://www.shsu.edu/about/facts.html

Whoever posted this information on a website meant to ATTRACT students should be fired. I've never seen anything like it. I've seen less than flattering facts being honestly posted in a very matter of fact way, but never as points of pride.

(01-08-2022 11:02 PM)Todor Wrote:  In fact, I have to say, that Sam Houston has one of the ODDEST pages that tells about the school I've ever seen. And I look at a lot of schools' information.

At first glance, it looks your run of mill fact page where you give little tidbits to make your school look good/attractive to potential students.

Then you see these "highlights" about their students and institution...

*About 60% are classified as “At Risk” (At risk of what? And why highlight it?)

*63.6% two-year graduation rate. (Is this a Juco? What is a Doctoral granting institution doing bragging about a 2 year graduation rate. No mention of a 4 year graduation rate.)

*3rd to bottom in per student funding (Why are they pointing these 2 items out???)
*33% below average state funding per student

ELITE Program began 2010
Recruits minority males
212 students
*33% 4-year graduation rates. (So 2/3 don't graduate on time/at all...ummm, ok)

https://www.shsu.edu/about/facts.html

Whoever posted this information on a website meant to ATTRACT students should be fired. I've never seen anything like it. I've seen less than flattering facts being honestly posted in a very matter of fact way, but never as points of pride.

Probably hard to graduate in 4 years when 75% are working while attending school. Some folks dont have the privilege of having enough funds to go full time. Hard to judge another persons life and what is reasonable.

(01-08-2022 11:39 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(01-08-2022 11:02 PM)Todor Wrote:  In fact, I have to say, that Sam Houston has one of the ODDEST pages that tells about the school I've ever seen. And I look at a lot of schools' information.

At first glance, it looks your run of mill fact page where you give little tidbits to make your school look good/attractive to potential students.

Then you see these "highlights" about their students and institution...

*About 60% are classified as “At Risk” (At risk of what? And why highlight it?)

*63.6% two-year graduation rate. (Is this a Juco? What is a Doctoral granting institution doing bragging about a 2 year graduation rate. No mention of a 4 year graduation rate.)

*3rd to bottom in per student funding (Why are they pointing these 2 items out???)
*33% below average state funding per student

ELITE Program began 2010
Recruits minority males
212 students
*33% 4-year graduation rates. (So 2/3 don't graduate on time/at all...ummm, ok)

https://www.shsu.edu/about/facts.html

Whoever posted this information on a website meant to ATTRACT students should be fired. I've never seen anything like it. I've seen less than flattering facts being honestly posted in a very matter of fact way, but never as points of pride.

Probably hard to graduate in 4 years when 75% are working while attending school. Some folks dont have the privilege of having enough funds to go full time. Hard to judge another persons life and what is reasonable.

The point was, its unusual to see a school telling how low their funding is compared to other schools--and giving inexplicable, random facts like a 2 year graduation rate at a 4 year school without an explanation or accompanying figures for 4 year programs. Its just odd. There's no judgement about their students there.