(12-20-2021 11:12 AM)fanfrompowellspub Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 08:57 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 08:47 AM)fanfrompowellspub Wrote:  A cold morning here in Ypsilanti as after a week of golf weather (for December) Winter is here. The Eagles finished 1 game better then my preseason prediction and after a blowout defeat in Mobile fans are gloom.
We may have seen the next lions quarterback Saturday as Malik Willis will continue to fly up draft boards with no great P5 qbs.
While we are getting impatient with the ceiling of the program remember what the floor looked and felt like.
EMU will enter the coaching carousel with its usual limitations. I do not anticipate many changes.
Some Michigan HS coaches on twitter were chirping about the lack of Michigan players on the emu roster, I use to have this gripe but I no longer do. I muse its harder for guys to be successful so close to home, hoping hutchinson ends up far away from the lions.
Do we root for the B1G ten in the playoff?
Cincy?
P.S NIU got screwed by the refs or espn events, felt like the BWW commercial where the bartender hits the button and poof game over.

How do you explain his success at Michigan then? I don't know if I really buy that, there are plenty of examples of guys going to school in their home states and being very successful.

I think a lot of that comes down to in-state MAC level recruits who stay in-state preferring CMU or WMU. Is it location, campus, facilities, perception of the program? I don't know. It could be the coaching staff, but I don't think so since it seemed to be an issue even before Creighton.

I was implying I hope he does not get drafted by the Lions because there will be many distractions.

I understand, my point was that wouldn't the same principle be applied to him going to UofM? It hasn't seemed to be an issue.

(12-20-2021 04:01 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:27 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:15 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:09 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:00 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  I think the gap between Div 2 and G5 FBS is a bit more than you think.

I'd like to test that hypothesis to find out.

I wouldn't...

Well finishing 10th in the MAC in recruiting with mostly out of staters every year isn’t working much for us.

Finishing 10th. Which year?

Tonys aurora is blinding him.

(12-20-2021 04:51 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:09 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:00 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 02:50 PM)holybovine Wrote:  People are already sick of me praising Ferris State.

However, consider that 107 of Ferris' players come from Michigan. That's 107 out of 150 total players (71.3%).

https://www.ferrisstatebulldogs.com/spor...-22/roster

If Michigan talent can obliterate D2, it can make us highly competitive in the MAC.

I think the gap between Div 2 and G5 FBS is a bit more than you think.

I'd like to test that hypothesis to find out.

Wow you need access to a, Ferris St portal to beam off to. You are making silly fact assertions without the facts. Again this,sounds like Grand,Valley St b's 10 years,ago. Except their coaches were cleaner.

I’m not going anywhere. So stop bringing it up.

FSU dominated D2, and I said I would like us to develop some of the Michigan talent they rely so heavily upon. I gave you the percentage of their roster from Michigan.

How are these silly assertions?

(12-20-2021 04:01 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:27 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:15 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:09 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:00 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  I think the gap between Div 2 and G5 FBS is a bit more than you think.

I'd like to test that hypothesis to find out.

I wouldn't...

Well finishing 10th in the MAC in recruiting with mostly out of staters every year isn’t working much for us.

Finishing 10th. Which year?

2019, 2017, 2016, 2015, and 2014, per 247.

Is that source reputable enough? Is it fair to say that is a trend?

(12-20-2021 03:42 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:27 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:15 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:09 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:00 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  I think the gap between Div 2 and G5 FBS is a bit more than you think.

I'd like to test that hypothesis to find out.

I wouldn't...

Well finishing 10th in the MAC in recruiting with mostly out of staters every year isn’t working much for us.

This season we had 27 players from Michigan. Western had 30. CMU had 60. Toledo had 14.

Central had 33 more guys from Michigan than we did - and they had 1 more win.

Miami OH had the best recruiting class (according to 247) and they had 1 kid from michigan (the same as us no way). CMU had 6 (none more than 3 stars). Western had 3.

I don't think the gap on the field is kids from michigan.

We were outscored in MAC play by 7 points.

We were bloody fortunate to win 3 of the MAC games (Miami, Toledo, Western). They all outgained us by a significant margin.

CMU blew our doors off when we played them.

I think it’s disingenuous to say that the gap between CMU and EMU was 1 win. We should have won 1 MAC game this year.

They are far, far ahead of us as a program, and it shows on the field.

(12-20-2021 09:37 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:42 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:27 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:15 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:09 PM)holybovine Wrote:  I'd like to test that hypothesis to find out.

I wouldn't...

Well finishing 10th in the MAC in recruiting with mostly out of staters every year isn’t working much for us.

This season we had 27 players from Michigan. Western had 30. CMU had 60. Toledo had 14.

Central had 33 more guys from Michigan than we did - and they had 1 more win.

Miami OH had the best recruiting class (according to 247) and they had 1 kid from michigan (the same as us no way). CMU had 6 (none more than 3 stars). Western had 3.

I don't think the gap on the field is kids from michigan.

We were outscored in MAC play by 7 points.

We were bloody fortunate to win 3 of the MAC games (Miami, Toledo, Western). They all outgained us by a significant margin.

CMU blew our doors off when we played them.

I think it’s disingenuous to say that the gap between CMU and EMU was 1 win. We should have won 1 MAC game this year.

They are far, far ahead of us as a program, and it shows on the field.

We can close the gap with a defensive scheme change from the 4-2-5. Our 2 linebackers were bad and the 5 D.B.'s weren't any good either. Let's move to a 4-3 cover 2 and allow the outside LB to blitz and get pressure.

We can also close the gap with the portal. So far, 2 good pickups on the defensive side. Let's keep.it going. We can do this. Next yr, I would be fine with 7-5 but 8-4 would show us taking a step forward.

(12-20-2021 10:34 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 09:37 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:42 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:27 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:15 PM)emu steve Wrote:  I wouldn't...

Well finishing 10th in the MAC in recruiting with mostly out of staters every year isn’t working much for us.

This season we had 27 players from Michigan. Western had 30. CMU had 60. Toledo had 14.

Central had 33 more guys from Michigan than we did - and they had 1 more win.

Miami OH had the best recruiting class (according to 247) and they had 1 kid from michigan (the same as us no way). CMU had 6 (none more than 3 stars). Western had 3.

I don't think the gap on the field is kids from michigan.

We were outscored in MAC play by 7 points.

We were bloody fortunate to win 3 of the MAC games (Miami, Toledo, Western). They all outgained us by a significant margin.

CMU blew our doors off when we played them.

I think it’s disingenuous to say that the gap between CMU and EMU was 1 win. We should have won 1 MAC game this year.

They are far, far ahead of us as a program, and it shows on the field.

We can close the gap with a defensive scheme change from the 4-2-5. Our 2 linebackers were bad and the 5 D.B.'s weren't any good either. Let's move to a 4-3 cover 2 and allow the outside LB to blitz and get pressure.

We can also close the gap with the portal. So far, 2 good pickups on the defensive side. Let's keep.it going. We can do this. Next yr, I would be fine with 7-5 but 8-4 would show us taking a step forward.

We also need a Brody Hoying in the secondary. And yes another Rachwal.

We just don't have the playmakers like we used to in the back 7.

Mowed down in Chi town. Check DePauls' schedule.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...e/_/id/305

(12-20-2021 09:37 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:42 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:27 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:15 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:09 PM)holybovine Wrote:  I'd like to test that hypothesis to find out.

I wouldn't...

Well finishing 10th in the MAC in recruiting with mostly out of staters every year isn’t working much for us.

This season we had 27 players from Michigan. Western had 30. CMU had 60. Toledo had 14.

Central had 33 more guys from Michigan than we did - and they had 1 more win.

Miami OH had the best recruiting class (according to 247) and they had 1 kid from michigan (the same as us no way). CMU had 6 (none more than 3 stars). Western had 3.

I don't think the gap on the field is kids from michigan.

We were outscored in MAC play by 7 points.

We were bloody fortunate to win 3 of the MAC games (Miami, Toledo, Western). They all outgained us by a significant margin.

CMU blew our doors off when we played them.

I think it’s disingenuous to say that the gap between CMU and EMU was 1 win. We should have won 1 MAC game this year.

They are far, far ahead of us as a program, and it shows on the field.

according to you EMUs wins dont count. how manys wins should WMU have had? they have almost the same number of michigan players as us. should they have won 1 game?

(12-20-2021 09:30 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 04:01 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:27 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:15 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:09 PM)holybovine Wrote:  I'd like to test that hypothesis to find out.

I wouldn't...

Well finishing 10th in the MAC in recruiting with mostly out of staters every year isn’t working much for us.

Finishing 10th. Which year?

2019, 2017, 2016, 2015, and 2014, per 247.

Is that source reputable enough? Is it fair to say that is a trend?

That is true, but most of those classes have come and gone. Recruiting has improved in recent years.

2022: 10th (not good on the surface, but a lot of these rankings are based on raw number of players. We have a small class but the highest average ranking per recruit in the MAC)
2021: 7th
2020: 6th
2019: 10th
2018: 6th

So we have gone from the bottom third to middle of the pack.

(12-21-2021 08:42 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 09:30 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 04:01 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:27 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:15 PM)emu steve Wrote:  I wouldn't...

Well finishing 10th in the MAC in recruiting with mostly out of staters every year isn’t working much for us.

Finishing 10th. Which year?

2019, 2017, 2016, 2015, and 2014, per 247.

Is that source reputable enough? Is it fair to say that is a trend?

That is true, but most of those classes have come and gone. Recruiting has improved in recent years.

2022: 10th (not good on the surface, but a lot of these rankings are based on raw number of players. We have a small class but the highest average ranking per recruit in the MAC)
2021: 7th
2020: 6th
2019: 10th
2018: 6th

So we have gone from the bottom third to middle of the pack.

we're wasting our breath - no facts matter to this guy

(12-21-2021 08:48 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 08:42 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 09:30 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 04:01 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 03:27 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Well finishing 10th in the MAC in recruiting with mostly out of staters every year isn’t working much for us.

Finishing 10th. Which year?

2019, 2017, 2016, 2015, and 2014, per 247.

Is that source reputable enough? Is it fair to say that is a trend?

That is true, but most of those classes have come and gone. Recruiting has improved in recent years.

2022: 10th (not good on the surface, but a lot of these rankings are based on raw number of players. We have a small class but the highest average ranking per recruit in the MAC)
2021: 7th
2020: 6th
2019: 10th
2018: 6th

So we have gone from the bottom third to middle of the pack.

we're wasting our breath - no facts matter to this guy

I'm trying vs. Super on the O variant.

As far as the topic at hand, we are mid-pack in recruiting and mid-pack in terms of conference on-the-field performance.

Anyone who says we are great at recruiting, great on the field, terrible at recruiting or terrible on the field is divorced from reality.

We are what we are: A decent MAC team, which recruits reasonably well... We don't have any superstars who can carry the team on his shoulder, either offensively or defensively.

We may get an all-MAC this or that, but there are what 12 all-MAC 1st, 2nd or 3rd team DB. Enough for each MAC team to have one. Nine all-MAC LBs, etc.

(12-21-2021 08:58 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 08:48 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 08:42 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 09:30 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 04:01 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Finishing 10th. Which year?

2019, 2017, 2016, 2015, and 2014, per 247.

Is that source reputable enough? Is it fair to say that is a trend?

That is true, but most of those classes have come and gone. Recruiting has improved in recent years.

2022: 10th (not good on the surface, but a lot of these rankings are based on raw number of players. We have a small class but the highest average ranking per recruit in the MAC)
2021: 7th
2020: 6th
2019: 10th
2018: 6th

So we have gone from the bottom third to middle of the pack.

we're wasting our breath - no facts matter to this guy

I'm trying vs. Super on the O variant.

As far as the topic at hand, we are mid-pack in recruiting and mid-pack in terms of conference on-the-field performance.

Anyone who says we are great at recruiting, great on the field, terrible at recruiting or terrible on the field is divorced from reality.

We are what we are: A decent MAC team, which recruits reasonably well... We don't have any superstars who can carry the team on his shoulder, either offensively or defensively.

We may get an all-MAC this or that, but there are what 12 all-MAC 1st, 2nd or 3rd team DB. Enough for each MAC team to have one. Nine all-MAC LBs, etc.

Agree - we are an average team no better no worse.

(12-21-2021 09:23 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 08:58 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 08:48 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 08:42 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  

(12-20-2021 09:30 PM)holybovine Wrote:  2019, 2017, 2016, 2015, and 2014, per 247.

Is that source reputable enough? Is it fair to say that is a trend?

That is true, but most of those classes have come and gone. Recruiting has improved in recent years.

2022: 10th (not good on the surface, but a lot of these rankings are based on raw number of players. We have a small class but the highest average ranking per recruit in the MAC)
2021: 7th
2020: 6th
2019: 10th
2018: 6th

So we have gone from the bottom third to middle of the pack.

we're wasting our breath - no facts matter to this guy

I'm trying vs. Super on the O variant.

As far as the topic at hand, we are mid-pack in recruiting and mid-pack in terms of conference on-the-field performance.

Anyone who says we are great at recruiting, great on the field, terrible at recruiting or terrible on the field is divorced from reality.

We are what we are: A decent MAC team, which recruits reasonably well... We don't have any superstars who can carry the team on his shoulder, either offensively or defensively.

We may get an all-MAC this or that, but there are what 12 all-MAC 1st, 2nd or 3rd team DB. Enough for each MAC team to have one. Nine all-MAC LBs, etc.

Agree - we are an average team no better no worse.

ive decided i agree with bovine. he makes a good point that none of EMUs wins for the last few years have counted and actually CC is the worst coach in all of college football because reasons.

I'm pumped lol by the next two MAC bowl games.
Should i bet them? Should i bet Wake vs TBD in the Gator Bowl?

(12-23-2021 08:13 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'm pumped lol by the next two MAC bowl games.
Should i bet them? Should i bet Wake vs TBD in the Gator Bowl?

The MAC trend in bowl games this year is not your friend.