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(12-22-2021 10:38 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  AF is in the MWC. The MWC is #8 according to the NET and the WAC is #14. Any win over a team in a conference ranked ahead of us is a great win.

I agree, any win against a conference that is ahead of us is a good win, regardless of where that team may rank. I mentioned on the AGGIE board that if the WAC is going to grow into the conference we all want it to be, these are the types of games we simply have to win. So, well done Tarleton St!

The unfortunate part about the scheduling TSU has achieved is more around perception, in my opinion. They are going to come into the conference with a "poor" record (less than .500) and if they are able to be middle of the pack it just leads to the perception that we have a weak conference. The flip side of that, scheduling a bunch of cupcakes to pad a record, isn't good either. I guess I just believe in balance. You need those games to "get right" but I think a team also needs games that challenge them and forces a team to grow.

Anyway, I'm getting off topic here. I think this is a good win for TSU simply because it is a game we need to win on a consistent basis to move the WAC forward.

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Is Tarleton the best team in the country with only 2 wins over D1 opponents???
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(12-22-2021 01:59 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  Is Tarleton the best team in the country with only 2 wins over D1 opponents???

They are currently right behind 2 win Texas Southern in the NET rankings but besides those two at just a glance I don’t see any other 2 win teams below the 200 range.
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(12-21-2021 07:53 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 07:09 PM)SammyH Wrote:  GCU athletes are vaccinated by the love from their lord and savior Jesus Christ, so this is certainly a stupid cancellation.

Either way I’m sure replacements can be found. GCU has like 100,000 “students”, someone from Pacific to Atlantic that takes online classes through the “school” can surly hoop.

GCU Football has more fans than shsu.

Still melting Tarleton got left behind, huh? #ForeverFCS
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(12-22-2021 01:59 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  Is Tarleton the best team in the country with only 2 wins over D1 opponents???

Yes. Because IlliterateTexan told us so. Because Tarleton is calling ALL the shots in the WAC. And because Tarleton actually didn’t want to go to CUSA and are EXACTLY where they want to be even though they desperately want FBS but the final train left the station.
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ACU defeats D-1 Longwood (from the Big South Conference and who was 7 and 4 coming into the game) 74 to 58, moving to 9-2 for the season.
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(12-22-2021 10:14 PM)RCI Wrote:  ACU defeats D-1 Longwood (from the Big South Conference and who was 7 and 4 coming into the game) 74 to 58, moving to 9-2 for the season.

That game was brutal. It was a 1-2 possession game until the last 8-9 minutes. By that time, we had wore them down. Our guys knew they just needed to outlast Longwood and they did, finally pulling away at the end. UVU will be a HUGE challenge. I hope our guys get a little rest before they start preparing.
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ACU is now on a 9 game win streak to be 9-2. Yeah, several are lesser teams, but those lesser teams were beat pretty badly using the whole bench. I am not sure the streak will continue next week, but we look to give UVU a good game. The Wolverines will be tested either way.
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The rest of the WAC tonight

Seattle beat NAIA Northwest University 100-68.
Chicago State lost to Drake 87-50.
Sam Houston beat North Carolina Central 68-51
Dixie lost to Southern Utah 87-59
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(12-22-2021 11:21 PM)Outsider Wrote:  ACU is now on a 9 game win streak to be 9-2. Yeah, several are lesser teams, but those lesser teams were beat pretty badly using the whole bench. I am not sure the streak will continue next week, but we look to give UVU a good game. The Wolverines will be tested either way.

Crazy how ACU was one basket or defensive stop away from beating A&M, being 10-1 and probably being the hot topic of WAC news. Lately people have been taking notice, including myself, but the media in particular I think has slept on ACU. A 9 game win streak is not easy to put together in D1 basketball. And as I said in the first sentence ACU was one basket away from it being 10 with a road win against an SEC team.
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(12-23-2021 08:08 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 11:21 PM)Outsider Wrote:  ACU is now on a 9 game win streak to be 9-2. Yeah, several are lesser teams, but those lesser teams were beat pretty badly using the whole bench. I am not sure the streak will continue next week, but we look to give UVU a good game. The Wolverines will be tested either way.

Crazy how ACU was one basket or defensive stop away from beating A&M, being 10-1 and probably being the hot topic of WAC news. Lately people have been taking notice, including myself, but the media in particular I think has slept on ACU. A 9 game win streak is not easy to put together in D1 basketball. And as I said in the first sentence ACU was one basket away from it being 10 with a road win against an SEC team.

4, yes 4 of the wins are over non-D1 teams. That’s pathetic. How do you even schedule like that with Tarleton and Dixie already on your schedule?
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(12-23-2021 01:35 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 08:08 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 11:21 PM)Outsider Wrote:  ACU is now on a 9 game win streak to be 9-2. Yeah, several are lesser teams, but those lesser teams were beat pretty badly using the whole bench. I am not sure the streak will continue next week, but we look to give UVU a good game. The Wolverines will be tested either way.

Crazy how ACU was one basket or defensive stop away from beating A&M, being 10-1 and probably being the hot topic of WAC news. Lately people have been taking notice, including myself, but the media in particular I think has slept on ACU. A 9 game win streak is not easy to put together in D1 basketball. And as I said in the first sentence ACU was one basket away from it being 10 with a road win against an SEC team.

4, yes 4 of the wins are over non-D1 teams. That’s pathetic. How do you even schedule like that with Tarleton and Dixie already on your schedule?

Well, we were unable to attend the tournament we planned on attending due to covid, travel to Abilene can be difficult, and no one wants to play the team that beat UT in the tournament. But we will see you January 20th and you'll see those wins weren't a matter of competition, but rather we are as advertised.
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(12-23-2021 01:35 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 08:08 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 11:21 PM)Outsider Wrote:  ACU is now on a 9 game win streak to be 9-2. Yeah, several are lesser teams, but those lesser teams were beat pretty badly using the whole bench. I am not sure the streak will continue next week, but we look to give UVU a good game. The Wolverines will be tested either way.

Crazy how ACU was one basket or defensive stop away from beating A&M, being 10-1 and probably being the hot topic of WAC news. Lately people have been taking notice, including myself, but the media in particular I think has slept on ACU. A 9 game win streak is not easy to put together in D1 basketball. And as I said in the first sentence ACU was one basket away from it being 10 with a road win against an SEC team.

4, yes 4 of the wins are over non-D1 teams. That’s pathetic. How do you even schedule like that with Tarleton and Dixie already on your schedule?
Thanks Double, you are aware of why the schedule has turned out the way it did aren't you? Regardless, ACU was still able to schedule games and take care of business at the last minute, all the while utilizing non-starters. Finally, Tarleton and Dixie are scheduled by most others in our conference, just like yourselves. Good luck to you all.
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(12-23-2021 01:35 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 08:08 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 11:21 PM)Outsider Wrote:  ACU is now on a 9 game win streak to be 9-2. Yeah, several are lesser teams, but those lesser teams were beat pretty badly using the whole bench. I am not sure the streak will continue next week, but we look to give UVU a good game. The Wolverines will be tested either way.

Crazy how ACU was one basket or defensive stop away from beating A&M, being 10-1 and probably being the hot topic of WAC news. Lately people have been taking notice, including myself, but the media in particular I think has slept on ACU. A 9 game win streak is not easy to put together in D1 basketball. And as I said in the first sentence ACU was one basket away from it being 10 with a road win against an SEC team.

4, yes 4 of the wins are over non-D1 teams. That’s pathetic. How do you even schedule like that with Tarleton and Dixie already on your schedule?

I really don’t think Seattle fans are in any position to criticize anyones wins this year. Alcorn St, Idaho St, Morgan St, Ark-Pine-Bluff, Pacific Lutheran, St Thomas MN and McNeese St aren’t exactly the cream of the crop. It’s the reason 2-8 Tarleton is 40 spots higher than 7-4 Seattle in the rankings.
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(12-23-2021 02:15 PM)HoustonCat Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 01:35 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 08:08 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 11:21 PM)Outsider Wrote:  ACU is now on a 9 game win streak to be 9-2. Yeah, several are lesser teams, but those lesser teams were beat pretty badly using the whole bench. I am not sure the streak will continue next week, but we look to give UVU a good game. The Wolverines will be tested either way.

Crazy how ACU was one basket or defensive stop away from beating A&M, being 10-1 and probably being the hot topic of WAC news. Lately people have been taking notice, including myself, but the media in particular I think has slept on ACU. A 9 game win streak is not easy to put together in D1 basketball. And as I said in the first sentence ACU was one basket away from it being 10 with a road win against an SEC team.

4, yes 4 of the wins are over non-D1 teams. That’s pathetic. How do you even schedule like that with Tarleton and Dixie already on your schedule?

Well, we were unable to attend the tournament we planned on attending due to covid, travel to Abilene can be difficult, and no one wants to play the team that beat UT in the tournament. But we will see you January 20th and you'll see those wins weren't a matter of competition, but rather we are as advertised.

Utah and Texas A&M apparently had no issues scheduling you guys. Just other teams are “afraid”?
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(12-23-2021 06:08 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 02:15 PM)HoustonCat Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 01:35 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 08:08 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 11:21 PM)Outsider Wrote:  ACU is now on a 9 game win streak to be 9-2. Yeah, several are lesser teams, but those lesser teams were beat pretty badly using the whole bench. I am not sure the streak will continue next week, but we look to give UVU a good game. The Wolverines will be tested either way.

Crazy how ACU was one basket or defensive stop away from beating A&M, being 10-1 and probably being the hot topic of WAC news. Lately people have been taking notice, including myself, but the media in particular I think has slept on ACU. A 9 game win streak is not easy to put together in D1 basketball. And as I said in the first sentence ACU was one basket away from it being 10 with a road win against an SEC team.

4, yes 4 of the wins are over non-D1 teams. That’s pathetic. How do you even schedule like that with Tarleton and Dixie already on your schedule?

Well, we were unable to attend the tournament we planned on attending due to covid, travel to Abilene can be difficult, and no one wants to play the team that beat UT in the tournament. But we will see you January 20th and you'll see those wins weren't a matter of competition, but rather we are as advertised.

Utah and Texas A&M apparently had no issues scheduling you guys. Just other teams are “afraid”?

Those games were schedule years ago and were guaranteed games, so those universities would of had to pay us not to play them. A&M might tell you after we took them to double overtime they aren't itching to schedule us again.
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(12-23-2021 05:12 PM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 01:35 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 08:08 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 11:21 PM)Outsider Wrote:  ACU is now on a 9 game win streak to be 9-2. Yeah, several are lesser teams, but those lesser teams were beat pretty badly using the whole bench. I am not sure the streak will continue next week, but we look to give UVU a good game. The Wolverines will be tested either way.

Crazy how ACU was one basket or defensive stop away from beating A&M, being 10-1 and probably being the hot topic of WAC news. Lately people have been taking notice, including myself, but the media in particular I think has slept on ACU. A 9 game win streak is not easy to put together in D1 basketball. And as I said in the first sentence ACU was one basket away from it being 10 with a road win against an SEC team.

4, yes 4 of the wins are over non-D1 teams. That’s pathetic. How do you even schedule like that with Tarleton and Dixie already on your schedule?

I really don’t think Seattle fans are in any position to criticize anyones wins this year. Alcorn St, Idaho St, Morgan St, Ark-Pine-Bluff, Pacific Lutheran, St Thomas MN and McNeese St aren’t exactly the cream of the crop. It’s the reason 2-8 Tarleton is 40 spots higher than 7-4 Seattle in the rankings.

What rankings? Whatever rankings you’re referring to, do not matter. Neither Seattle or Tarleton are getting at-large NCAA or NIT berths. Don’t forget about our win versus Northwest U! Yes, the SU schedule is weak and ACU had a scheduling issue, but 4 of their wins are over non-D1 teams. Doesn’t mean they’re a bottom team, but their win loss total is not impressive to anyone who looks at their schedule.
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(12-23-2021 06:11 PM)HoustonCat Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 06:08 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 02:15 PM)HoustonCat Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 01:35 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 08:08 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  Crazy how ACU was one basket or defensive stop away from beating A&M, being 10-1 and probably being the hot topic of WAC news. Lately people have been taking notice, including myself, but the media in particular I think has slept on ACU. A 9 game win streak is not easy to put together in D1 basketball. And as I said in the first sentence ACU was one basket away from it being 10 with a road win against an SEC team.

4, yes 4 of the wins are over non-D1 teams. That’s pathetic. How do you even schedule like that with Tarleton and Dixie already on your schedule?

Well, we were unable to attend the tournament we planned on attending due to covid, travel to Abilene can be difficult, and no one wants to play the team that beat UT in the tournament. But we will see you January 20th and you'll see those wins weren't a matter of competition, but rather we are as advertised.

Utah and Texas A&M apparently had no issues scheduling you guys. Just other teams are “afraid”?

Those games were schedule years ago and were guaranteed games, so those universities would of had to pay us not to play them. A&M might tell you after we took them to double overtime they aren't itching to schedule us again.

If you want to believe that. The power schools schedule games against most WAC teams for victories (Seattle included), but they are in no way afraid of losing. Texas A&M can take a loss to ACU and still make the tournament, it does not hurt them in anyway. Teams like them are kept out of the NCAA Tournament because they didn’t beat “enough” good teams, not because they slipped up in the non-conference.
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(12-23-2021 06:19 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 06:11 PM)HoustonCat Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 06:08 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 02:15 PM)HoustonCat Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 01:35 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  4, yes 4 of the wins are over non-D1 teams. That’s pathetic. How do you even schedule like that with Tarleton and Dixie already on your schedule?

Well, we were unable to attend the tournament we planned on attending due to covid, travel to Abilene can be difficult, and no one wants to play the team that beat UT in the tournament. But we will see you January 20th and you'll see those wins weren't a matter of competition, but rather we are as advertised.

Utah and Texas A&M apparently had no issues scheduling you guys. Just other teams are “afraid”?

Those games were schedule years ago and were guaranteed games, so those universities would of had to pay us not to play them. A&M might tell you after we took them to double overtime they aren't itching to schedule us again.

If you want to believe that. The power schools schedule games against most WAC teams for victories (Seattle included), but they are in no way afraid of losing. Texas A&M can take a loss to ACU and still make the tournament, it does not hurt them in anyway. Teams like them are kept out of the NCAA Tournament because they didn’t beat “enough” good teams, not because they slipped up in the non-conference.

Regardless, the Utah and A&M games have zero to do with the extra and unexpected lower tier games this season. At least we were able to schedule replacement games at the last moment.
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(12-23-2021 06:12 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 05:12 PM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 01:35 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(12-23-2021 08:08 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 11:21 PM)Outsider Wrote:  ACU is now on a 9 game win streak to be 9-2. Yeah, several are lesser teams, but those lesser teams were beat pretty badly using the whole bench. I am not sure the streak will continue next week, but we look to give UVU a good game. The Wolverines will be tested either way.

Crazy how ACU was one basket or defensive stop away from beating A&M, being 10-1 and probably being the hot topic of WAC news. Lately people have been taking notice, including myself, but the media in particular I think has slept on ACU. A 9 game win streak is not easy to put together in D1 basketball. And as I said in the first sentence ACU was one basket away from it being 10 with a road win against an SEC team.

4, yes 4 of the wins are over non-D1 teams. That’s pathetic. How do you even schedule like that with Tarleton and Dixie already on your schedule?

I really don’t think Seattle fans are in any position to criticize anyones wins this year. Alcorn St, Idaho St, Morgan St, Ark-Pine-Bluff, Pacific Lutheran, St Thomas MN and McNeese St aren’t exactly the cream of the crop. It’s the reason 2-8 Tarleton is 40 spots higher than 7-4 Seattle in the rankings.

What rankings? Whatever rankings you’re referring to, do not matter. Neither Seattle or Tarleton are getting at-large NCAA or NIT berths. Don’t forget about our win versus Northwest U! Yes, the SU schedule is weak and ACU had a scheduling issue, but 4 of their wins are over non-D1 teams. Doesn’t mean they’re a bottom team, but their win loss total is not impressive to anyone who looks at their schedule.

The NET rankings do matter. It’s why conferences like the MWC get 2-3 teams in the dance versus a one bid league like the WAC. The more teams you have in the top 100 the more of a case that can be made for the runner up to get in too. I’m not saying the NET rankings are the end all be all. They are biased towards the P5s. But it’s the metric the NCAA selection committee uses.
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